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[*] posted on 7-8-2013 at 05:18 PM
Converting a Symphony 2.2 to quad line (Now with Flying Video)


I wrote the instructions up and posted them for your use. This takes a small trainer to a whole new level. Stops on a dime and spins like there's no tomorrow..

http://www.riffclown.com/kites/HQ2.2.4Conversion.pdf

I'd appreciate feedback and/or suggestions. I'll post flying video soon.

Rob E.

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[*] posted on 7-21-2013 at 03:13 AM


Maybe a pic and some video today.. Had so much fun yesterday I totally left the cameras in the car.



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[*] posted on 7-21-2013 at 05:05 AM


Have fun at the festival! Wanted to make this one. I'll be down there for the whole week next month though. Winds were a good SW 15 mph here yesterday. No flying for me.
Truck repairs have been taking up my time the past few weeks.





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[*] posted on 7-21-2013 at 05:12 AM


Rob, where in SE VA are you?




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[*] posted on 7-21-2013 at 05:19 AM


He's right between me and you Donnie.

Our area is becoming quite the kite populous :evil:

So glad the fall is right around the corner :thumbup:

Looking forward to turning it up a notch :D




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[*] posted on 7-21-2013 at 05:22 AM


The 2.2 quad flies great. And the conversion instructions are well done. Bravo.



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[*] posted on 7-21-2013 at 03:49 PM


Great winds today. A little erratic at times but great flying in a great place to fly.
Chris, I very much appreciate your take on it. I really enjoyed watching you fly today and I very much appreciate the opportunity to spend some time with the Toxic 2.0 Great Kite and probably my next kite.

A little impromptu demo up on Youtube..Raw footage.. Included the "oops" and all. Grass was tall so it did snag the brakes occasionally. Check out the 0:59 mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWP7exBR_NA







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[*] posted on 7-21-2013 at 04:27 PM


Wow, that flies really well ! :D
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[*] posted on 7-22-2013 at 01:38 PM


Thanks. It's a lot of fun to fly it as well. Surprising pull for a relatively small foil..



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[*] posted on 7-22-2013 at 07:26 PM


Nice job! :thumbup:



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[*] posted on 7-23-2013 at 08:58 AM


Hey all, I just wanted to give my two cents on this mod Riff has made. I too have a quad line 2.2 symphony and it’s a blast. I’ve only been flying for the last few months. I started out with a HQ symphony 1.8 and moved up to the 2.2 once I felt the pull. I flew it on 2 lines for a few weeks, but once I had him mod mine I couldn’t imagine going back. If you have the means to mod a smaller foil like this one, I highly recommend it.
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[*] posted on 7-23-2013 at 03:38 PM


What tha .......

All these VA kiters :D We must plan a VA bash this fall??????

Guys, we must rally the masses and unite :thumbup:




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[*] posted on 7-23-2013 at 06:16 PM


Sounds like a good idea to me..




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[*] posted on 7-23-2013 at 06:56 PM


It almost looks like Rev type control.... I want one..



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[*] posted on 7-24-2013 at 05:28 AM


I gotta say, that does very well. I thought my 3.6 Ballistic stopped on a dime and gave correct change.. Heck that 2.2 stops on a nat's greasy ass.

NICE JOB with the conversion.




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[*] posted on 7-24-2013 at 06:05 AM


Quote: Originally posted by 3shot  
What tha .......

All these VA kiters :D We must plan a VA bash this fall??????

Guys, we must rally the masses and unite :thumbup:


You know we have our own section on the forum,it's called VABBB. We have already had our first bash... I need to come over to the upper peninsula and meet you guys. I remember waaayyy back when I was the lone kiter in VA. :cool:

Have I got some stuff for you guys to try..... Come on late Sept.!:smilegrin::smilegrin:




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[*] posted on 7-24-2013 at 08:30 AM


wow im out of the loop ware did all these folks come from :o :D I love it
welcome to the party




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[*] posted on 7-24-2013 at 07:15 PM


Quote: Originally posted by WELDNGOD  
Quote: Originally posted by 3shot  
What tha .......

All these VA kiters :D We must plan a VA bash this fall??????

Guys, we must rally the masses and unite :thumbup:


You know we have our own section on the forum,it's called VABBB. We have already had our first bash... I need to come over to the upper peninsula and meet you guys. I remember waaayyy back when I was the lone kiter in VA. :cool:

Have I got some stuff for you guys to try..... Come on late Sept.!:smilegrin::smilegrin:


Yeah. The VABBB gonna be rocking this year it looks like :thumbup:
Really looking forward to trying a Soulfly or a pro Soulfly. I dig they are a Rage in disguise (so to speak) at half the price.

Um yeah come on Fall! Except I work a lot of Saturdays with side jobs in the fall/winter for extra $$$.. Guess I'll be a few $$$ short this year LOL. Off to the VABBB forum now;)




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[*] posted on 7-25-2013 at 05:23 AM


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Have I got some stuff for you guys to try..... Come on late Sept.!




We don't have to drink some sort of funny kool-aid do we?
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[*] posted on 7-25-2013 at 05:22 PM






Not unless ya' want to.... :lol:




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[*] posted on 8-9-2013 at 05:39 PM


I think I got some of the red Kool-aid today. At least the Crossfire is Red..



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[*] posted on 8-9-2013 at 06:09 PM


I have a 2.1m symphony beach, this mod looks do-able.

Do you know if your bridle lengths are applicable to this model of symphony?




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[*] posted on 8-9-2013 at 07:06 PM


The lengths are pretty close. but a bit of trial and error will be needed to tune them. I would suggest the looping from page two to allow easy tuning. That way the only actual length you'd have to adjust would be the length of the main brake bridle (orange on my kite)

I have a friend with a Symphony Beach 2.1 (one of my original kites actually) that I will probably end up modifying. If you need, I'll publish those measurements but it's not too difficult to tune to your tastes when you get used to making small changes and seeing the difference they make in how the kite reacts.




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[*] posted on 8-9-2013 at 07:07 PM


one other suggestion is when you cut the lanyard, singe the ends so they don't unravel.



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[*] posted on 8-10-2013 at 03:12 PM


Quote: Originally posted by riffclown  
... I would suggest the looping from page two to allow easy tuning.


Sorry, but I don't follow.




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[*] posted on 8-10-2013 at 03:33 PM


I recommend to make the 24” and 28” as well as the 26” and 30” lines as a loop. If making individual lines add 3” to each end for backsplicing and
connection. Lengths for the loop method are one piece 58”(including backsplice) & one piece 62” ”(including backsplice).
Once back-spliced and looped, a simple square knot/larks head will suffice to attach the main brake bridle (Orange) This
also requires less splicing and allows the bridles to be tuned easier once your mods are complete.


If you make the brake bridles as loops, then you can tune them easily by just undoing the main knot and sliding them through to tune.



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[*] posted on 8-10-2013 at 06:11 PM


Ok,... Think I got it.



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[*] posted on 8-18-2013 at 12:05 AM


How does that compare to the HQ Beamer 2M? Ive flown both the 2.2 Symphony and 2M Beamer numerous times and pretty much just just decided that the Symphony flew nearly identical to the HQ Beamer. Just my thoughts though.



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[*] posted on 8-18-2013 at 05:13 AM


The Symphony 2.2 is a much smaller kite. Once you modify it, it's far more maneuverable.



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Skydog SDT 2.8
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HQ Toxic 8.0
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PL Hornet 2.0

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[*] posted on 8-18-2013 at 05:34 AM


Ive been wanting to do the same thing with the hydra 350.



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