I like our Jekyll Island Rules. Buggy, drink beer.

I hope us SoFKA guys never take this so seriously that most of our discussions are arguing about rules. I'm afraid that would diminish a lot of the fun for me. I guess this rules issue is important to many but traction kiting should really be about the kites and the wind and what you do with it. But most importantly for me are the relationships that are fostered from it. A race might be fun and informative, but no reason to have perpetual arguments with others that should be your friends. MHO. Jekyll rules rule for sure.

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Originally posted by Ozzy So, question, what are the differences between the Fisly rules and the other rules you guys want to use ? Is it such a difference ?,....

Yep, Ozzy, quite a difference! If you have the time and inclinations here are links to both. Check them out and see for yourself.

NAPKRA rules based on FISLY
http://www.napkra.org/pdfs/NAPKRA%20Guide.pdf

Argyle Park rules
http://www.kites.tug.com/kites/Bb+p/rules.txt

My problem is when certain people come onto this forum and promote, or mention the superior nature, of their rules. These are the same people, when given the chance to answer some very specific and intelligent questions of how fisly rules can be abused, responded with name calling, insults, and never justified the use of rules that can be abused. Those forum members then deleted their posts to cover their tracks. Bison was not one of those people.

So my problem is not so much with fisly rules, but with some of the people who support them and their history on this forum. I don't think that all kite fliers are great people; I call it like I see it, and certain kite fliers don't stand behind what they type.

I could be convinced to supporting fisly rules, but convinced is the key word. I see problems with it, but am open to an intelligent discussion of how they can be used/abused. Honest.

Bison, thanks for those links.

I know little of racing and have not been in a buggy race. But I have frequently buggied with others in close proximity -enough that I can begin to understand some of the dynamics.

It's clear that some of the FISLY rules have a nautical origin and Peter Lynn makes quite a compelling case why they may not always serve the buggy community well . And you have to listen to a guy who is credited with just about inventing the sport.

I like Kent's take on it- respect the rules of the hosting organizer or stay away if it's not to you liking.

Come to Jekyll and crack a beer with me. Psssst. glug, glug, glug.

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Originally posted by acampbell enough that I can begin to understand some of the dynamics.

You get it AC! A person's view on which rules may work best is changed once you have experienced hard core racing! Really opens your eyes to what works and what doesn't. When a racer pushes that hard there are certain issues that have to be addressed upfront to provide a safe racing enviroment for all those participating.

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It's clear that some of the FISLY rules have a nautical origin and Peter Lynn makes quite a compelling case why they may not always serve the buggy community well.

The rationalizations that Peter provides are quite dated, umm '93 I think. He refers to rules I have never even seen. Not sure where they came from. Anyway, the FISLY rules are quite different today than they were in '93.

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I like Kent's take on it- respect the rules of the hosting organizer or stay away if it's not to you liking.

I just don't understand why NABX refuses to allow NAPKRA races. What harm does it present? Why is NABX SO down on FISLY based rules?

What does this have to do with Peter Lynn???

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