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 I bought this buggy a couple of weeks ago from the original owner. He says it's about 9 years old and is a Peter Lynn. He bought it from a shop on the
West Coast (Oregon) but doesn't have any details. I cleaned it up, put on new tires and bearings and love this thing! (my first buggy and definitely
not my last) I want to replace the seat and as I started to search the net to find out what model buggy this is I can not find any pictures that match
this buggy! Does anyone know what model this thing is? I'm wondering if the seats for a Comp will fit on here. It doesn't have an axle (the threads
are right on the side tubes) and there is a "riser" where I put the blue noodle to save my lumbar. 
Thanks for any help you can offer!   Flysurfer Peak 6
 Peak4 5m
 Flysurfer Speed5  12
 Cabrinha Switchblade 5, 8
 Slingshot Ghost 6
 Spleene Session
 Shinnster
 Shinn Monk
 Naish hover kite
 North Sonar (several wings)
 MBS Comp 16
 Peter Lynn Comp
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| another pic 
 
 
   Flysurfer Peak 6
 Peak4 5m
 Flysurfer Speed5  12
 Cabrinha Switchblade 5, 8
 Slingshot Ghost 6
 Spleene Session
 Shinnster
 Shinn Monk
 Naish hover kite
 North Sonar (several wings)
 MBS Comp 16
 Peter Lynn Comp
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| last pic 
 
 
   Flysurfer Peak 6
 Peak4 5m
 Flysurfer Speed5  12
 Cabrinha Switchblade 5, 8
 Slingshot Ghost 6
 Spleene Session
 Shinnster
 Shinn Monk
 Naish hover kite
 North Sonar (several wings)
 MBS Comp 16
 Peter Lynn Comp
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 I would imagine that the comp seats would fit in there. Odd little buggy though. Looks almost like a PL Folding Buggy, without the folding parts. Best
of luck. Flysurfer Speed 3 15m DELUXEFlysurfer Speed 3 12m
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 The XR seat sits pretty low and you could have ground clearance issues.  I can measure mine to give you a depth so you can have an idea of how low it
drops below the side rails. Coastal Wind Sports  Team Rider
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 I'm curious to know which buggy that is as well. My buddy just picked up some buggy parts that match that exact buggy. He only has the side tubes and
that rear support/connecting brace, plus the seat. No down tube, fork or wheels. Would be nice to know what it is so he can get the right parts to
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 Ha, I own the same buggy. I was told it was a flexifoil, but with that big front fork, PL makes more sense. Here is what I have done.     
You will need to build your own, I tried other seats... Lots of issuews. Was easier, cheaper, and a LOT more effective to build your own. You can even
get a little butt-guard in there.
 
U2U me if you want instructions.
 WHAT I FLY:Flysurfer Soul v2 12m, Soul 15m, Soul v2 21m
 
 Flexi Rage 1.8m, Jojo RM 3m, Flexi Blurr 3.5, Flexi Blade 4.0m, Flexi Blade 4.9m, Flexi Blurr 5, Jojo RM 6m
 
 WHAT I RIDE:
 Kite Skates, Libre Full Race, GI Conflict 106, OR Mako 140, Spleene Door 159
 
 What I Am In The Market For: Peter Lynn Vapors, Weatherproof Kite Buggy Bag for Libre, PL or Flexi Small Buggy to Tow With, Flexi Pro Link Handles,
Flexi Lines, Flexi Kite Killers
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 Hey Sailors,I do believe that is a very early prototype PL buggy.
 I saw the first in Bristol, England in 1990.
 Martin Lester bought it off Peter after the festival.
 
 That seating position was the problem.
 Too much weight behind the axle.
 Became a bit tail-happy at speed.
 
 
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 So this has been driving me nuts, and Dylanj423's post gave me a new angle to search. Flexifoil was the key. I was able to find a website that
described different Flexi buggys and this is not a Flexi Original, it's a Flexi Sport. I foind a picture on a UK site and there is a fair amount of
mention about the sport, but no real details. This pic is supposedly a Flexifoil Sport Buggy.   Flysurfer Peak 6
 Peak4 5m
 Flysurfer Speed5  12
 Cabrinha Switchblade 5, 8
 Slingshot Ghost 6
 Spleene Session
 Shinnster
 Shinn Monk
 Naish hover kite
 North Sonar (several wings)
 MBS Comp 16
 Peter Lynn Comp
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 wow, thats some historic pics 
yes, its a Flexifoil Sport Buggy ... as in the First Gen Buggy.  
than they created this: http://www.kitepower.com/images/flexibuggy.jpg 
or maybe im reversed, either way its too long for me to remember, and too many files in my brain to go back. but its a Flexi with PL Style Fork.
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  | Quote: |  | Originally posted by ripsessionkites either way its too long for me to remember, and too many files in my brain to go back
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It's a beeatch getting old....:P
 Libre hardcore (bf\'s and standards) KBSS suspension front endPegasus buggy
 
 PKD Combats 2.9,3.5,4.8(proto type),5,6.8,7.2,8.6,10.3,15.4
 jojo rm+ 6,7,8
 jojo et 2.5m
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 Does anyone know if any "current" Flexi seats would fit onto this frame or is making my own the most feasible route for a nicer seat? Flysurfer Peak 6
 Peak4 5m
 Flysurfer Speed5  12
 Cabrinha Switchblade 5, 8
 Slingshot Ghost 6
 Spleene Session
 Shinnster
 Shinn Monk
 Naish hover kite
 North Sonar (several wings)
 MBS Comp 16
 Peter Lynn Comp
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 I purchased that buggy way back then.  Almost imediately it started bending; the wheels started to lean inwards.  The US distributor at the time
(Cobra Kites) didn't give a rats behind.  Basically told me to go pound sand.  I sold it.  Promised never to do business with them again. Steve BatemanArcs: P:6,9,12m;     Syn:8,10,12       V2:8m
 PL Monster Buggy,    1994 Flexi buggy (original owner)
 
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 This kite was ridden quite a bit by the previous owner on the beaches of Oregon and it made it 3 times to Burning Man. He originally bought it to take
to Burning Man and met some folks there that invited him to the Oregon beaches. He was a big guy, about 240, and the buggy has no cracks, bends, or
any other issues. It's very solid. I paid $100 for it, so even if I snapped it in half, I'd still have 3 spare wheels with brand new tires and
bearings for another buggy, so I'm pretty happy with it. It also goes like a bat outta hell when the wind picks up to the 20's which it did Monday and
also around lunchtime today. You can't hold a product at fault for a lousy distributor, although you would hope Flexifoil would have been concerned
about the non-chalant attitude towards your problem. Flysurfer Peak 6
 Peak4 5m
 Flysurfer Speed5  12
 Cabrinha Switchblade 5, 8
 Slingshot Ghost 6
 Spleene Session
 Shinnster
 Shinn Monk
 Naish hover kite
 North Sonar (several wings)
 MBS Comp 16
 Peter Lynn Comp
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 your best bet is to custom build your own seat. 
the XR+ will probably not fit, and neither will the Flexi seat since its designed for straps to run around a rear axle. the side rails are higher so
the seat is deeper. 
 
i could see the Comp ST seat fitting, but no guarantee either.
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 The buggy above that Dylan own was the first buggy that I ever got.  I bought it from him during DBBB.  I used it for a while and sold it to Kevin
(local beginner that wanted to get into buggying).   He just had a birthday this past saturday so I thought it would be a nice surprise to make a
custom seat for him as a gift.   Got his wife to sneak the buggy over to my place for a while.    
I took the seat from my Cricket buggy and modify the straps to conform to the lower rails of the flexi-sport. 
here's some pics of the outcome.  It's not too bad since the back rails come up pretty high to provide back support.
           US-00 ( That\'s right baby .. double O!!) 
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 Van ... as with all your stuff I've seen so far .... awesome job - some kites- NAPKA KC97 - BMK Frankenbuggy
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 That's a great seat Van...fantastic birhtday gift! 
I have a PL folder that looks quite similar to this buggy.  I was able to snag a custom Scorpion seat for it a few years ago.  When I mentioned to my
kite pal, BR, my worry about what I'd do when that seat ever wore out, he said with complete confidence, "oh you'd get Van to make you another
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 haha .. no problem .. if it ever falls apart, just let me know.  I got a few folks with PL folders that are also interested so I might have one
already made by the time you need one.    US-00 ( That\'s right baby .. double O!!) 
Engines: 
8m charger, 10m Scorpion, 15m phantom, 19m venom, 5m npw9, 8m npw-ha, 9m switchblade , 14m Ozone Catalyst
 
 
Rides:  
VTT Black Widow, VTT Stinger Race,  Flexboardz Haize,  Trampa , Spleene HT Door 59, MTH custom twin tip
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  | Quote: |  | Originally posted by van haha .. no problem .. if it ever falls apart, just let me know.  I got a few folks with PL folders that are also interested so I might have one
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| what did you do about the seat 
 
 
 Vtliter,
 Did you ever make your own seat?  I bought this same buggy from someone on this forum years ago (still my first and only buggy).  I initially used it
in the wheat fields in Oklahoma.  Now I use it at the beach in SC.  The seat is still ok and I padded the bars with those foam noodles for swimming. 
I woldn't mind a better seat and possibly a splash guard.  A few weeks ago I was having a nice session at Cherry Grove beach but there was a spot that
I had to cross with water.  It was cold out and I zipped through it a couple times but my pants were soaked and cold when I was done.  Still a good
time.
 
 
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