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[*] posted on 4-5-2009 at 06:43 AM
Wheels of Doom - Step in Bindings?


I was thinking about putting together a set of WOD, and I was thinking about the boot options I have. I use a K2 clicker bindings/boots on my snowboard, and I was thinking about adapting this to WOD. I already have the boots and the extra bindings are cheap. The nice thing about clickers is they don't release in a fall like ski bindings and they are entirely under the boot, not making the wheelbase any longer.

The main advantage is that I can put the boots on, set up the kite, click in and go. I was thinking about lowering the boot portion of the frame to be lower to the ground, weld a base plate and essentially a Y for the wheels, keeping the bindings closer to the ground than a straight frame.

From those who know, am I overlooking something that makes this a potentially bad idea?
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[*] posted on 4-5-2009 at 05:51 PM


the wheel base is long and the platform high. they flow great for big speed and crusiing.

you need something to hold the rails/wheels to click into, like a small rack or aleast something to lean them against

they want stand up by themselves.

the bindings would be a nice feature.. what failure issue do the binding systems have. you do not want these things just poppin off at speed. a step off at 20 mph is nasty.

i put this set together fall08, after i got a pair of coyotes i never went back to them

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[*] posted on 4-6-2009 at 01:20 PM


The bindings actually lock shut, and there is basically zero chance of them releasing. Since they are designed for snowboarding they don't have a impact release like skies.

I was thinking about lowering the foot frame, I'm thinking 3" clearance from the ground to the bottom of the frame. I can lean up to 50 degree angle

That's with 12" wheels. I was going to make the frame out of 1/4" aluminum plate welded together (by a pro, not myself...) and attach the bindings with bolts. I had thought about making a small bracket to stand them up while stepping in, like you said they won't stand up on their own.

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[*] posted on 4-6-2009 at 05:51 PM


wheel and bearing selection are a good staring point. what is available with easy spare sizes makes it come together alot quicker.

hub width and axle size need to be in available sizes or ultra custom gets ultra $

you will need width between the rails for a little offset for better tracking up wind. front wheel favoring the inside rail.

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[*] posted on 4-7-2009 at 04:45 PM


Are you trying to obtain speed ?

Coyotes come pre made and recommended ( by me ) if you don't. They will cost about the same as your build. < $150 > and are much less agro' ? These things came out at about $500 in 2000.




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[*] posted on 4-7-2009 at 08:03 PM


I've been looking out for Coyotes, but don't usually see them in a size 12.

I figure the build is only going to cost me about $80, $40 for the wheels and my aluminum guys is gonna make the frames for $20 each, and a few bucks for odds and ends. I already have the boots and bindings.

I'm not looking for speed neceessarily, my kiting spot isn't the best surface, I would describe it as knobby grass, so I'm actually looking for large forgiving wheels.

I'm also looking for a fun project....:roll:
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[*] posted on 4-7-2009 at 08:28 PM


You are right. Size twelves are rare. :no:

I haven't had the chance but think an average day on doomwheels will still be a lot like the snowkiting experience on turf.

GO FOR IT :wee:




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[*] posted on 4-10-2009 at 08:19 AM


:yes: that is exactly what i wanted to try it would give more support to the ankles and those bindings are sollid cant wait for pics and a performance report:wee:



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[*] posted on 4-12-2009 at 07:23 PM


I'm still planning on fabricating these frames, but I just picked up my first buggy, so I'm probably going to be a bit distracted putting these together....I'll report once I do...
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[*] posted on 4-13-2009 at 02:53 PM


Congrat's on the buggy.

Everything crosses over when it comes to riding the wind. You will be that much more prepared when you do get on the " Wheels of Doom " !

Have fun !




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[*] posted on 4-13-2009 at 03:27 PM


i have a pair coyotes size 12....this rare pair also has a unique feature












































they can fly

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[*] posted on 4-13-2009 at 04:33 PM


Unique indeed :wow:

I only get that much air in my dreams :thumbup:




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[*] posted on 4-13-2009 at 11:12 PM


I got a pair of Fischer WebXXL ski board things that come with a non-release binding ... that is, you can't twist out of them like with regular ski bindings ... I've thought of getting some for WOD but never got around to it.
Have a look in the pic - they sort of lever onto the boot to clamp it down and they just don't let go!

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_RtAKR1yiWBY/R55UUcRM9EI/AAAAAAAAG7A/H9...

However ... I'm now drooling over these things :D
http://www.powerkiteshop.com/images/productimages/boards/gat...
I think the clam shell boot design would be less hassle than ski-boots and bindings and a whole lot more flexible ...




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