Pablo
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Need some good kite lines for buggying on muddy beach.
So as the title states, I fly mostly out of Mud Bay, the name speaks for itself. it is pretty much impossible to keep damp sand/silt off of anything.
The lines will get wet and they will get sandy.
Having said that, I have just gone through another set of lines, I believe these ones were in storage for close to 10 years, so it was expected.
Between me and the buggy, we are close to 450 lbs, won't say how much of that is buggy, I like to be pretty powered up as well, so the lines will need
to take some heavy loads and abuse.
I guess the question is are there any proper buggy based kite lines in the 300-400kg range, or with the wet and sand situation, am I better to
sacrifice the nice thin kite lines and go to something more for a surf kite?
What are you guys running in these situations?
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0.7m / 1.4m / 2.0m PKD Buster I
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10m JoJo RM+
6m Flysurfer Outlaw
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tomdiving
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http://www.panshkite.com/index.php?gOo=goods_search_list.dwt...
some of their lines have a PU coating. i'm sure you can find something here that will suit you.
tom
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jeffnyc
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Supposedly the tight weave on Q-Power pro line is so tight it doesn't let dirt/salt etc in, I would think that would be your best bet. The Pansh lines
are cheapish if you're looking to save a buck, but not as nice quality and heavier than sk-99 or Q-Power.
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BeamerBob
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I was thinking about Q power lines as well. Their resistance to sand getting in would mean no extra strength would be required for longevity.
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Cerebite
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the down side of that coating on the Q line is that the line ends up being very stiff and prone to kinking when wound and unwound
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Pablo
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Thanks, will be buying a couple sets of lines seeing as most of the junk I have was decent but has been used on the beach then stored for 8+ years,
pretty sure they will all be failing soon, Very interested in the Q line, may pick up a set of the pansh ones as well just to compare.
Sysmic S1 Buggy.
0.7m / 1.4m / 2.0m PKD Buster I
4.4m PKD Buster
10m JoJo RM+
6m Flysurfer Outlaw
12m Ozone Access
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tomdiving
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the cheaper, uncoated lines from pansh were hit or miss. i got many that were ok, but i also got a few that were unmatched in length. one line might
be off an inch or 2. one set i got has both brake lines about 3 inches shorter than the main lines. it's not a big deal for me since i have almost all
of my kites rtf. if i had to switch lines and handles among different kites then those linesets would be a pain in the butt.
all of the coated sets i've gotten have been properly matched.
tom
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Chook
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I have used Q-power pro for the last 3 years and they still do shrink.
I hotwire to the buggy using Ozone R1's kites and have had 3 loops on 3 different power lines fail in that time. Breaking the line on the inside of
the loop, not the stitching. Each time damaging the kites by breaking steering bridals.
They are only rated to 270 kilograms (600lb). Just be aware that they are not as strong. They do kink a bit and care is needed when unrolling but
still very manageable.
They certainly don't pick up the sand as badly and show no signs of wear at all after my very long periods of use.
I've now gone back to Ozone lines on my larger kites.
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Blitzhound
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I run HQ Linesets on all my FB kites. Except for the ones that I like to use fully powered up or even overpowered. Then I would use PL Navigator Line
sets. I've tried the Pansy lines. They are cheap. But they didn't seem to last nearly as long as the HQ sets. I'm very hard on my lines. Hell...I'm
hard on all my gear. I was also break Line sets on a regular basis. Simply over loading them. I'm 300lbs and by buggy is another 120lbs.
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