Blitzhound
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Wives & Kites?!
Just gonna throw this question out there.
IF...you were going to teach your wife to fly kites and eventually buggy. (Spared no expense) what Kite would you teach her on. after all this is the
love of your life. I think I already know my answer. Either a 6m/9m Peak 3 or a 6m/8m Ozone Access. Either of which would be set up with there
respective 5th line safeties. Though I'm curious as to you other married men's thoughts on the matter. (This should be interesting.) I would love for
my wife to be more involved than simply watching me and filming on occasion. She has agreed that she might like to be more involved as well. Though
there is a strong possibility that there may be a BloKart in our future. But for now. I have multiple buggies and plenty of Kites.
NAPKA US541
HQ: Beamer V 5.0m,
Best: Bularoo 7m, Waroo 9m, 12m
PKD: Inferno 9m, 12m, 16.5m,
Ozone: SubZero: 5m, 7m, 9m, 11m, 13m, Access 6m, Pure 6m, Chrono V2 7m, V4 13m, Chrono EXP 7m, 9m, R1V3 21m
Buggies: GT-Revolt, GT-RazR,
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cheezycheese
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Personally, I have started my S.O. on a small gentle fixed bridle. This way she can understand the wind window, etc... packing and unpacking lines,
stuff like that. She has expressed the desire to buggy, but she needs to understand the simple stuff first.
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PL- Aero v1 11m / Phantom 6/9/12/15/18
Ozone Chrono v2 9m
Liquid Force Elite 6.5m
Flysurfer - Peak 3 4m
PKD - Century 2.5m, Soulfly 3.5m
Ted's Profoil-1m/3.5m
Custom NABX Rev
GT Rapide V/VTT-XR+ Special
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jeepersjoey
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If fixed bridle, all I know, is an option...a 1.8m or 2.5m Rage depending on the wind.
The key to me is that the person does NOT feel overpowered on their first few flights. It is a toy to them...not a death machine.
Have one person with her (you) and employ another to go out in the field and get the kite ready for her each time it crashes.
I am partial to the RAGE because it does not bow-tie, it is very forgiving, and cheap.
I tell everyone I teach to do not be afraid to let go of it. So much so that I make them power through the window and then then the kite rip from
their fingers. They see that it does not go far...I think this helps them understand that it is better to let go than fly.
I tried with mine and she was bored, quickly. So, I built a landsailer. Alas, it tipped over the second she sat in it!
Paul
Peter Lynn - Resurrected Vapors (thanks to Tenacious Tape): 3.2, 3.8, 4.5, 5.4m. Size 2.3m (dead) - all internal bellows shredded
Pansh - Cerberus - 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.5, 9m. (red)
Peter Lynn - Viper - 2.6m
Flexifoil - Rage - Rasta 1.8, 2.5 (dead), 3.5 (dead), 4.7 (v2). New backup of 2.5m and 3.5m.
Ozone - Method 6.5m (w/ Ozone Turbo Bar)
Libre - Bora - Yellow 3.0 & 4.5 (both on their last breath of life)
Peter Lynn - C-Quad - 6.3
HQ - NPW9: 3.4 & 5.3. NPW5: 1.0
Buggies (Kite and Land)
#1 Buggy: Libre Full-Race
#2 Buggy: Peter Lynn Suspension buggy
#3 Sailer: Homemade Land Sailer
#4 Buggy: Windspeed Pro Ivanpah Buggy named Bruce (because he weighs 130 lbs!!)
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Randy
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Dangerous territory guys. There is a saying in windsurfing - "If you want to break up with your girl, try to teach her to windsurf."  It probably would apply to kiting as well.
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Windstruck
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Agree with the dangerous territory comments. Tread carefully!!!!
The Access with Re-Ride are good calls for twin skin DP. I've owned them and would vouch for this choice. I've also owned the Peak3s. They went to
one pulley per side for their DP rigging (Peak and Peak2s both had two pulleys per side). This resulted in an increase in bar pressure. Note this as
it could be relevant as it will be tiring for your wife to hold the bar in for buggying. The Born-Kite LongStar2s are similar to the Peaks (nicer in
my view) and have two pulleys per side. Just sayin...
Other options would be PL Uniq Quad for a simple FB SS and the other SS option would be Born Kite NASA Star 3s. All make decent buggy engines and are
easy to get the hang of static and can be crashed.
The blokart option seems ideal. Jeeper Joey's comment about the second person is a good one. Some might call that a Kite Squire!
Born-Kites:
RaceStar+ (3.0m, 5.0m, 7.0m, 9.0m)
NasaStar-5 (2.5m, 4.0m)
NasaStar-4 (2.5m)
NasaStar-3 (3.2m)
Ozone kites:
Access (6.0m)
Flysurfer Kites:
Peak-5 (2.5m)
Buggy:
Peter Lynn BigFoot+ nose & tail; midsection VTT rail & seat kit; home-brewed AQR
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abkayak
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i vote fb's first...
i have had wife and daughter on them flying
pretty sure they would never throw on a harness and want to see 7+m above them
and I'm good w/ that
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Twister/ 6.6m Blade/ 7.5 Apex/ 9m Fuel/ Phantom I 9,12,15,18/ 2 Flexibugs/ PL Big Foot/ landboards
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eric67m
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My wife and child were both started off flying static on fixed bridals (no harness, brake or drop the handles if necessary). My wife has tried to
buggy several times but it's hard to make upwind progress with entry level four line fixed bridals. I would like to get a intermediate 2.5-3 to
replace some of my entry level kites. My daughter might try to buggy some more this year. She has tried some down winders previously. She is
eleven. I would get some static time in first to gain some kite control.
Flying A mixed quiver of Flysurfer Peak kites.
Rollin in the Popeye The Welder Playa buggy.
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B-Roc
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Maybe a tandem buggy is better than a new kite quiver for the wife - that way she can enjoy the experience while you control the most dangerous
aspects and if she quits, well you can still give rides to others.
Depower Quiver: 14m Gin Eskimo, 10m Gin Eskimo III, 6m Gin Yeti, 4.5m Gin Yeti (custom bridle and mixer)
Fixed Bridle Quiver: MAC Bego 400, JOJO ET Instinct 2.5 & 5.5, Lil Devil 1.5, Sting 1.2
Rides: Ground Industries
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Cerebite
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I would also answer with the small FB. She learns the ropes [excuse the pun] but does not feel overpowered.
My lovely kite squire has several kites "of her own" that she feels I do not treat right [don't fly enough] and a couple that we have bought for her.
She will fly static very occasionally and we have kicked around the idea of getting a landsailer for a couple of years. She has SERIOUS neck and back
issues so can not do any significant pull on the kites.
All that being said she loves to go out with me and watch me [and my friends] fly and enjoys taking care of us and feeding us way too well [as Paul,
Steve, Tami, Richard, Mark, and others can attest].
NASA wings -1 to 12m [mostly KM4]
Foils -2 -12m [mostly PL & Pansh]
VTT Stinger on Midi's
Another day in Paradise...
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Windstruck
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Quote: Originally posted by Cerebite  |
All that being said she loves to go out with me and watch me [and my friends] fly and enjoys taking care of us and feeding us way too well [as Paul,
Steve, Tami, Richard, Mark, and others can attest]. |
And an INCREDIBLE job Amy does of this too!!! Her efforts and friendship truly round out our great Ivanpah gatherings. The fact that she is further
John's Kite Squire is just sheer bonus for him.
Born-Kites:
RaceStar+ (3.0m, 5.0m, 7.0m, 9.0m)
NasaStar-5 (2.5m, 4.0m)
NasaStar-4 (2.5m)
NasaStar-3 (3.2m)
Ozone kites:
Access (6.0m)
Flysurfer Kites:
Peak-5 (2.5m)
Buggy:
Peter Lynn BigFoot+ nose & tail; midsection VTT rail & seat kit; home-brewed AQR
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SWATK Member UT0003
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Windstruck
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| Quote: Originally posted by B-Roc | | Maybe a tandem buggy is better than a new kite quiver for the wife - that way she can enjoy the experience while you control the most dangerous
aspects and if she quits, well you can still give rides to others. |
I'd second this vote!!!! That feels like far safer territory to tread on, both for the kiting aspect and the relationship. 
Born-Kites:
RaceStar+ (3.0m, 5.0m, 7.0m, 9.0m)
NasaStar-5 (2.5m, 4.0m)
NasaStar-4 (2.5m)
NasaStar-3 (3.2m)
Ozone kites:
Access (6.0m)
Flysurfer Kites:
Peak-5 (2.5m)
Buggy:
Peter Lynn BigFoot+ nose & tail; midsection VTT rail & seat kit; home-brewed AQR
NAPKA Member US2815
SWATK Member UT0003
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smiler8401
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After some time I stop any attempt to drag my wife into kitting . I could see all those kitting term explanation could not make sense to she .Feel
like she will not enjoy the kitting to way we do , so i don't push further .
well some time demand some reasoning why the kite quiver is growing .LOL .
It kind like she drive a car just to take her some place not because she like and enjoy driving .
| Quote: Originally posted by Cerebite |
All that being said she loves to go out with me and watch me [and my friends] fly and enjoys taking care of us and feeding us way too well [as Paul,
Steve, Tami, Richard, Mark, and others can attest]. |
OK , Like Cerebite . my wife will be there whenever possible , I could see she happy enough just to watch me enjoy the kitting .
That been said , she keep mentioning about the landsail/blokart whenever my kitting buddy riding them , she said it much easier to handling .
Kites : NPW21 2m , NPW21 8.2m , NPW9 12m
Ozone Manta I 12m
Peter Lynn Pepper 4.5m , Venom II 16m
RRD Vision 13.5m
Ride : Radsail RKB R1
Cabrinha custom 133 x 40
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BeamerBob
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8.5m Flexi VIP?
Coastal Wind Sports Team Rider
Landsegler Disc wheels
PTW Hero Buggy - XXtreme ApeXX Buggy US 88 - Libre Hardcore
IvanpahBuggyExpo.com
Youtube link
Bob Muse
HQ Montana X 8m, Montana IX 12m, HQ Ignition LEI 5m,
PL Phantom 12m, 15m, Big Blu 24m+, Synergy 10m, Venom 10m, 13m , Phantom II 12m Vapors 3.8, 5.4, Crosskite Sonic 7m, PKD Combat 10.3m
Uturn Butane 2.5m PKD Buster 3m Genetrix Hydra 7m Ozone Yakuza GT 14m
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bugymangp
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My wife wants nothing to do with power but likes my manta
And single line show kites
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B-Roc
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If we're going that route, might as well see if you can find a deal on a 4.9 BIII for the moderate wind days - don't want her losing interest because
she was skunked on an outing  
Depower Quiver: 14m Gin Eskimo, 10m Gin Eskimo III, 6m Gin Yeti, 4.5m Gin Yeti (custom bridle and mixer)
Fixed Bridle Quiver: MAC Bego 400, JOJO ET Instinct 2.5 & 5.5, Lil Devil 1.5, Sting 1.2
Rides: Ground Industries
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indigo_wolf
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| Quote: Originally posted by B-Roc |
If we're going that route, might as well see if you can find a deal on a 4.9 BIII for the moderate wind days - don't want her losing interest because
she was skunked on an outing |
Oh come on.... why not try to save some money on the first purchse and get a Pansh Ace.
<* HUGE SARCASTIC EMOTICON *>
ATB,
Sam
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NeverBoard
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I floated the idea that my wife could join a female led water-kiteboarding camp, maybe with a couple friends.. hard to find the time though!
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tomdiving
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eric67
the blurr 2.5 is on ebay for 90 bucks, 15 bucks shipping. if you get outbid, just wait a couple of days for the next one to show up. they seem to be
on 3 day cycles.
tom
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hiaguy
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Location: Whitby, ON
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Ines can fly, but doesn't buggy. She enjoys driving a Blocart, but not enough to buy one (so thanks to the guys that let her take theirs for a spin!).
Her real love/hobby is photography so she's at every WBB with me as the "official" photographer: https://flic.kr/s/aHsm6yF6Qs
(over 4,000 images and counting...) and will drive by to snap a few when I visit our local park.
And, cameras are less expensive than kites 
Go ahead... tell me to "go fly a kite!" Please!
Howard KC67 NAPKA District #12 Representative
Fly: A quiver of Lynx' and Cores (did someone say "Pansh"?), a couple o' Arcs, and a Rev to remind me about control
Ride: PL XR+
Where: 43.857899, -78.941661 and 38.970951, -74.828922
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WELDNGOD
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I miss you guys..... Oh yeah,small FB first!
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PKD
Combat 2.4 / 4.2
Century 1.8 / 5.5
Century II 2.2/2.8/3.5/4.5 /10.0
Brooza IV 3.0 prototype
Buster Soulfly 1.5 / 2.2 (KIA)/ 3.3 (lost at sea)
Buster Soulfly PRO 3.3 / 4.4
Buster (gen 1) 5.5
FLEXIFOIL
Sting 1.7 Punk
Rage 2.5 / 3.5/ 4.7
Revolution 1.5 SLE
17 ply Custom TRAMPA w/ verTIGo trucks
2 homebrew buggies,2 homebrew KYTBYKS,1 homebrew tandem trailer
GOPRO 3 WHITE, 3+ BLACK, HERO5 BLACK
CONTOUR HD
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leanin
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As a newbie that can't hide my enthusiasm from my wife, she is also showing interest. I started her with the trainer kite flying static to give her
left-right steering training. Then taught her to fly the Peak 2 4m static in light wind. She took her first ride in a buggy a few days ago and loved
it. The Peak 2 4m in light wind has to be worked a bit before it develops power. But, that's good for her because it keeps her from getting over
powered and scared. Plus, it develops more kite control. The Peaks have so much depower, it also helps keep her from getting overpowered. So far,
she's enjoying it.
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Demoknight
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Without a doubt, I would start her on depower, and it would either be a Flysurfer Peak or an Ozone Access. I have flown both, and they are the two
most forgiving and gentle kites I have ever flown. The Peak is an excellent low wind kite in the larger sizes, and the Access is just the most solid
and stable kite I think I have EVER flown. Neither give much lift, and they both provide a pretty light bar pressure while retaining a solid feel of
what the kite is doing.
NAPKA US8008
Kites:
Ozone R1 V3 7m
Flysurfer Sonic v3 15m
Flysurfer Speed 3 Deluxe 19m
Peter Lynn Charger 2 12m
Ozone Access Reride 6m
Peter Lynn 2013 Reactor 5.5m
Peter Lynn 2013 Reactor 8.6m
Prism Tensor 5.0m
Ride:
GT-Race Code:R6
Weird Beard VTT Custom
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mahgnillig
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As someone who has successfully managed to instill enthusiasm for skiing, mountain biking, and myriad other outdoor activities into my former couch
potato husband (former couch potato, not former husband, lol!), I can tell you that a constant barrage of instructions and encouraging your
significant other to do stuff beyond their ability level "because it's fun" doesn't work. Sometimes spouses learn better when taught by someone else
entirely... I made my hubby take skiing lessons rather than teach him myself.
My hubby and I are learning this whole power kite thing together, but if I was going to teach someone else the first thing I would do is show them
YouTube videos about the wind window, as that is way easier to explain with a graphic. Then I'd make sure they were 100% clear about the safety setup
of any kite (even a small trainer) before they launch it. Once launched, have them activate the safety a couple of times to get familiar with it. Then
hang out and be their kite retrieval buddy until they learn how to self relaunch. Start with a small fixed bridle and work on exercises like making
the kite hover on the edge of the window, sine waves, loops etc. I pull my Snapshot out fairly often just to work on this stuff, even though I have
bigger kites available. Don't bombard the person with too much information at one time, teach them one or two things to work on and let them get on
with it until they get comfortable enough to learn something new.
Prism Snapshot 2.5
Prism Tensor 3.1
HQ Apex III 7.5
HQ Montana III 12.5
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Cheddarhead
Posts: 1402
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Location: Green Bay, Wisconsin
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SS Turbine 17m
SS Rally 14m
SS Rally 12m
SS RPM 10m
SS Rally 8m
SS Rally 6m
FS Speed 3 15m dlx
FS Peak 2 6m
Ozone Frenzy 9m
Ozone Access XT 6m
PL Farc 1200
What I ride:
Home brew buggy
Volkl race tiger DH 210
Dynastar DH 218
Blizzard Cochise 185
Steepwater 179 twin tip
Aboards Reverse 161
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Cheddarhead
Posts: 1402
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Location: Green Bay, Wisconsin
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My wife never showed an interest in flying traction kites but has purchased a few stunt kites to share the wind with me. She likes to come to events
with me and hang out with the guys. I'm rather fortunate she supports my addiction
SS Turbine 17m
SS Rally 14m
SS Rally 12m
SS RPM 10m
SS Rally 8m
SS Rally 6m
FS Speed 3 15m dlx
FS Peak 2 6m
Ozone Frenzy 9m
Ozone Access XT 6m
PL Farc 1200
What I ride:
Home brew buggy
Volkl race tiger DH 210
Dynastar DH 218
Blizzard Cochise 185
Steepwater 179 twin tip
Aboards Reverse 161
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