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[*] posted on 7-18-2017 at 09:24 AM
Looking for a Lynx suggestion


I'm hopeful that someone as had the opportunity to fly both the 7m and 11m Peter Lynn Lynx.

I'm thinking of replacing my 9.5m MontanaVI with an 11m Lynx. The question is:
Can I knock out enough power (trim it in) from an 11m Lynx to be able to step from my 7m Lynx to it as the wind drops?

Most of my flying is at the local soccer field - bumpy grass - but WBB is always the goal. Unfortunately, the wind I fly in has gusts that let/help the Montana show its liftyness (is that a word?) and I like staying in the seat. (I haven't had the Lynx loft me. Yet.)

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[*] posted on 7-18-2017 at 10:05 AM


Sontung - This appears to be your first post, so welcome to PKF! Nice to have you on board. I live out West but I've heard nothing but great things about WBB so I hope you do get there sooner than later. Going to a large event like this transforms your kiting experience.

I'll leave it to others to comment on the range for the Lynx. I'm weighing in here to bring up the concept of getting what is called an Automatic Quick Release or AQR. Jeff (BigKid here on PKF) has designed a really nice AQR that I rely on each time I'm in the buggy. His AQR is a must-have piece of equipment for a lot of us here on the forum. In short, an AQR works as a shackle of sorts between you and the buggy, creating an interface between the kite, you, and your buggy. If you start to get lofted by your kite you will start to rise from the seat and the AQR will release, akin to popping the chicken loop. The thing is, lofting forces often happen quickly and at unexpected or uncontrolled times, and many (probably read all) can't get to the chicken loop fast enough to stay in the buggy. Just a thought; AQRs are truly great IMHO.

And yes, liftyness is a fine word, as good as any to describe what you are talking about.

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[*] posted on 7-18-2017 at 11:33 AM


Liftyness.:lol:



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[*] posted on 7-18-2017 at 12:09 PM


Quote: Originally posted by bigkid  
Liftyness.:lol:


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[*] posted on 7-18-2017 at 02:16 PM


Hi sontung.
I understand "liftyness" when referring to the Montana. I had one and sold it as soon as I bought my first Lynx 'cause I wasn't comfortable flying it. (Great kite, just not my style.)

Like you, most/all of my flying time (with the exception of WBB) is at the local soccer fields (see my sig.) where the only time that the winds are steady is when there's no wind at all :-(

My kites are now a generation old, so I'm not up to date on the newest model, but there is quite a bit of depower available in the older ones. I am one of those that prefers to be under-powered, or even well-powered, but NOT over-powered. I'm in a light buggy and I only weigh 155 so it doesn't take a lot of extra lift to launch me. (Yes, the Lynx works well with an AQR.)

To answer your question tho'... Is it possible to trim in and hold onto the 11m until the 7m will work? Yes - but even trimmed in, that's more power than I am comfortable with. There are others around here that are quite comfortable being what I feel is overpowered, but I would be more inclined to take out the 7m earlier and "work it" rather than to stay with the 11m for too long - which is why I have the 9m.

Phrased differently: if the 7m is dropping out of the sky, you'll likely be OK with the 11m.

If WBB is your goal, make it a reality. There's nothing about flying at home that comes close to the hardpack, steady wind, and the group that WBB offers.

And in case you were wondering, only 84 days to WBB ! :wee:




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[*] posted on 7-18-2017 at 02:27 PM


Quote: Originally posted by hiaguy  
Hi sontung.
I understand "liftyness" when referring to the Montana. I had one and sold it as soon as I bought my first Lynx 'cause I wasn't comfortable flying it. (Great kite, just not my style.)

Like you, most/all of my flying time (with the exception of WBB) is at the local soccer fields (see my sig.) where the only time that the winds are steady is when there's no wind at all :-(

My kites are now a generation old, so I'm not up to date on the newest model, but there is quite a bit of depower available in the older ones. I am one of those that prefers to be under-powered, or even well-powered, but NOT over-powered. I'm in a light buggy and I only weigh 155 so it doesn't take a lot of extra lift to launch me. (Yes, the Lynx works well with an AQR.)

To answer your question tho'... Is it possible to trim in and hold onto the 11m until the 7m will work? Yes - but even trimmed in, that's more power than I am comfortable with. There are others around here that are quite comfortable being what I feel is overpowered, but I would be more inclined to take out the 7m earlier and "work it" rather than to stay with the 11m for too long - which is why I have the 9m.

Phrased differently: if the 7m is dropping out of the sky, you'll likely be OK with the 11m.

If WBB is your goal, make it a reality. There's nothing about flying at home that comes close to the hardpack, steady wind, and the group that WBB offers.

And in case you were wondering, only 84 days to WBB ! :wee:


Nice post Howard. Just sayin....

(that's a sincere comment by the way). I most enjoy meeting a new person through PKF like sontung and getting the feeling that he will fit right in with this crowd of chimps in the Monkey House. Having just seen the latest Planet of the Apes film (which is the best in the series BTW) I ask only that nobody start throwing things to get my attention. :D




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Buggy:
Hybrid: Nose & tail PL Bigfoot+ with wide rear axle; midsection VTT rail & seat kit; two sets of Sysmic rims (BigFoots and 6-ply trailer tires); BigKid's AQR

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[*] posted on 7-18-2017 at 10:36 PM


7m to 11m?
Here is a suggestion.
Add my underused 9m Lynx to your quiver.
Utu or email if interested.




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[*] posted on 7-19-2017 at 08:15 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Wind_dog  
7m to 11m?
Here is a suggestion.
Add my underused 9m Lynx to your quiver.
Utu or email if interested.


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[*] posted on 7-19-2017 at 06:40 PM


A 3-5m spread is pretty common between depowers. If you are competent I think you'd be mostly Ok though sometimes just a tad under or overpowered depending upon which kite you are on but that's a good spread and you can milk the 7 and depower the 11 to squeeze the most out of each. I weigh 150# and ride a 4.5, 6, 10, 14 quiver and that suits me well though I've often thought of replacing it with a 5, 8, 12 based on my preferred winds.



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[*] posted on 7-19-2017 at 08:47 PM


The beauty of DPs is the range you can fly then in. Having a full quiver is great but one small and one large certainly can be made to work. A couple of years ago I flew a 6m Peak2 and 12m Peak2 on the same day back to back. As you've been saying, I had to milk the 6m and choke back the 12m but both were serviceable that day. Of course that day the 9m would have been ideal.

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Born-Kite RaceStar (9.0m, 11.0m)
Born-Kite NasaStar-3 (1.5m, 2.5m, 3.2m, 4.0m)

Buggy:
Hybrid: Nose & tail PL Bigfoot+ with wide rear axle; midsection VTT rail & seat kit; two sets of Sysmic rims (BigFoots and 6-ply trailer tires); BigKid's AQR

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