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[*] posted on 7-12-2017 at 12:29 PM
libre magix


Does any one have any experience with libre magix? It looks very interesting without a traditional fork design, but I can't help but think that the fork connection to the "hinge" looks like a weak point. I understand that this same design is used on Libre land yacht and i see a few good reviews on that but would like to see if anyone has first hand experience.
Got my sights on one that is in the UK so if the fellow selling it can figure out how to ship for a reasonable cost it has me very tempted.




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PKD Buster Soulfly Pro 2.2, 4.4
PKD Century ii 3.5, 4.5, 6.0, 8.0, 10.0

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[*] posted on 7-12-2017 at 10:15 PM


Never heard about the magix.
I know a bit about the majestic though.




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PKD Century Soulflys. NPW's. Nasa Stars.
A few other less flown oddballs,
Line sets from 10" to 328" or 2m to 100m.
worlds only AQR that works.
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[*] posted on 7-13-2017 at 12:03 AM


Thank you Jeff. Attached is a link to a picture of the actual buggy as well as the fork connection which has me a little worried because it does not look very traditional.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/54/116264740_b60d0018e3_z.jpg?...

http://www.alienbuggy.com/forum/attachments/Magix-Gabelklein[2090].jpg





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Kites:
Prism Snapshot 1.2 (This is what started the addiction)
Flexifoil Blurr 2.5, 3.5, 5.0
PKD Buster Soulfly 1.5, 3.3
PKD Buster Soulfly Pro 2.2, 4.4
PKD Century ii 3.5, 4.5, 6.0, 8.0, 10.0

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[*] posted on 7-13-2017 at 01:16 AM


Not sure what the picture is showing.
The biggest issue is the buggy size. Short of trying it out I would not buy it. The last one I sold was a size medium and the guy who couldn't live without it was 5-10. He was to small and to short for the medium buggy. He should have got the small size, then he could have reached the peddles as he turned. And most of all the buggy wasn't tuneable because it was to big for him.
If the bug was only 100 bucks to your door and it is the wrong size it's a buggy you will not be able to enjoy or use safety.




Appex buggy, Libre hardcore buggies.
Flexboardz. Blokarts.
PKD Century Soulflys. NPW's. Nasa Stars.
A few other less flown oddballs,
Line sets from 10" to 328" or 2m to 100m.
worlds only AQR that works.
North American distributor for PKD.
"Kite Bugging is not an addiction until you try to quit".
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[*] posted on 7-13-2017 at 03:58 AM


Did not think about that. Thanks.
Maybe I should make sure I come this year to WBB so i get a chance to look at a few different buggies before I think about anything else. In the mean time the flexi should be plenty.
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Kites:
Prism Snapshot 1.2 (This is what started the addiction)
Flexifoil Blurr 2.5, 3.5, 5.0
PKD Buster Soulfly 1.5, 3.3
PKD Buster Soulfly Pro 2.2, 4.4
PKD Century ii 3.5, 4.5, 6.0, 8.0, 10.0

Buggy:
Flexifoil Wide Axel
MG Supra
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[*] posted on 7-13-2017 at 04:38 PM


Why can't I find any reference to this buggy other than here ? Not on the Libre site or Google?



Kites: 2.5m Profoil , Quadrifoil XL kitesurfer, NPW 5 Danger.
Flexifoil: 1.7m Sting, 4.9m Blade 3, 9m Blade 2.
Flysurfer : 19m Speed 2 SA, 7m Pulse
Peter Lynn :18m Phantom, 15m Synergy, 10m Synergy, 1200 Farc, 460 Sarc, 130 Tarc, 5m Peel, 4.2m , 6.4, 8.5 C-Quads

Rides: Flexi / P.L. Frankin'Buggy , Shaped + straight skiis, sand skis, Coyote blades. Core 95 ATB. RKB R2 ATB .

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[*] posted on 7-13-2017 at 05:48 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Bladerunner  
Why can't I find any reference to this buggy other than here ? Not on the Libre site or Google?

I have the info on my laptop. As soon as I can, I will post the goods on the buggy.
Smart phones aren't quite smart enough yet.




Appex buggy, Libre hardcore buggies.
Flexboardz. Blokarts.
PKD Century Soulflys. NPW's. Nasa Stars.
A few other less flown oddballs,
Line sets from 10" to 328" or 2m to 100m.
worlds only AQR that works.
North American distributor for PKD.
"Kite Bugging is not an addiction until you try to quit".
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[*] posted on 7-13-2017 at 06:01 PM


Got a message "internal service error" when I tried to find the website.
Guess it's email time?




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Flexboardz. Blokarts.
PKD Century Soulflys. NPW's. Nasa Stars.
A few other less flown oddballs,
Line sets from 10" to 328" or 2m to 100m.
worlds only AQR that works.
North American distributor for PKD.
"Kite Bugging is not an addiction until you try to quit".
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[*] posted on 7-13-2017 at 06:04 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Glx  
Thank you Jeff. Attached is a link to a picture of the actual buggy as well as the fork connection which has me a little worried because it does not look very traditional.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/54/116264740_b60d0018e3_z.jpg?...

http://www.alienbuggy.com/forum/attachments/Magix-Gabelklein[2090].jpg



Hard to tell from the alienbuggy picture but it looks like little more than a couple of short welds holding the U-fork to the tube that articulates in the yoke for steering. I'd put my money on those welds being the Achilles Heel in this design.

Also, why would you want what is effectively a zero degree rake to the fork? It would seem to magnify the force of the foot pegs over a more traditionally raked front fork. I often find I want to adjust my feet a little bit (particularly on long Ivanpah runs) and even on my PL BigFoot my front wheel gets squirrelly shifting around. I'd think this would be worse.

Maybe I'm not thinking about it right since the short tube in the yoke has a rake of sorts so maybe that does the same thing. My hand is in the air as somebody with no actual buggy design experience! :o




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[*] posted on 7-13-2017 at 06:14 PM


found it,
http://libre.de/?q=en/node/175




Appex buggy, Libre hardcore buggies.
Flexboardz. Blokarts.
PKD Century Soulflys. NPW's. Nasa Stars.
A few other less flown oddballs,
Line sets from 10" to 328" or 2m to 100m.
worlds only AQR that works.
North American distributor for PKD.
"Kite Bugging is not an addiction until you try to quit".
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[*] posted on 7-14-2017 at 08:52 AM


Jeff, that is the Majestic. I can find that by searching.

This Magix looks to have a very different front end. Can't find any reference to it besides here? I wonder how well it steers?




Kites: 2.5m Profoil , Quadrifoil XL kitesurfer, NPW 5 Danger.
Flexifoil: 1.7m Sting, 4.9m Blade 3, 9m Blade 2.
Flysurfer : 19m Speed 2 SA, 7m Pulse
Peter Lynn :18m Phantom, 15m Synergy, 10m Synergy, 1200 Farc, 460 Sarc, 130 Tarc, 5m Peel, 4.2m , 6.4, 8.5 C-Quads

Rides: Flexi / P.L. Frankin'Buggy , Shaped + straight skiis, sand skis, Coyote blades. Core 95 ATB. RKB R2 ATB .

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[*] posted on 7-14-2017 at 11:31 AM


Ken, that's why the email to Libre.
Gix, can you post a better picture of the front fork?




Appex buggy, Libre hardcore buggies.
Flexboardz. Blokarts.
PKD Century Soulflys. NPW's. Nasa Stars.
A few other less flown oddballs,
Line sets from 10" to 328" or 2m to 100m.
worlds only AQR that works.
North American distributor for PKD.
"Kite Bugging is not an addiction until you try to quit".
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[*] posted on 7-14-2017 at 12:04 PM



I am looking at this:
http://www.alienbuggy.com/forum/attachments/Magix-Gabelklein[2090].jpg

...and I am confused about the steering.

The orientation of the fork to the rotation of the headset(and it's angle) looks to be awkward .


The rotation when turning looks like it will be different than
a traditional fork/headtube set up. I'm imagining a 'deflection' of the downtube at the junction to drop a bit downward as you turn either left or right...:puzzled:


Not sure...what exactly I'm seeing though:puzzled:
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[*] posted on 7-15-2017 at 03:43 AM


Was travelling yesterday all day and I still don't know how to post pictures from my phone. I can not find a better picture of the entire fork but was able to find two pictures that I think show a broken one of these connections so I guess the original concern was accurate.

2017-07-14_09-09-48.jpg - 19kB 2017-07-14_09-10-07.jpg - 25kB




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Kites:
Prism Snapshot 1.2 (This is what started the addiction)
Flexifoil Blurr 2.5, 3.5, 5.0
PKD Buster Soulfly 1.5, 3.3
PKD Buster Soulfly Pro 2.2, 4.4
PKD Century ii 3.5, 4.5, 6.0, 8.0, 10.0

Buggy:
Flexifoil Wide Axel
MG Supra
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