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[*] posted on 6-18-2017 at 01:25 PM
Beginner landboarding


Hi there,

I just start landboarding and would ask your help in buying a kite as I just have a ignition 2.5.

I can practice on nice big beach with decent wind
Belhaven bay in Scotland if you want to check.

My board is a MBS comp 16
wheels are : mbs primo rebel 200*50

Is that sound a good set to start with or should I change ?

Thank for your time guys.
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[*] posted on 6-18-2017 at 01:45 PM


Welcome.

Your board sounds good but you will want to get a bigger depower kite.

The ignition will take a lot of wind to power you on the board. It is much easier and safer to learn in lower winds with a bigger kite. NOT saying you can't do it but go in understanding the limitations of that kite and the danger in using it for traction in real strong winds. Strong snappy bits of power rather than the long smooth power stroke available on a depower.




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[*] posted on 6-19-2017 at 12:26 AM


Hey, cheers for that.

Can I ask you what size and brand of depower kite I should go for ?

Thanks
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[*] posted on 6-19-2017 at 09:22 AM


How much do you weigh and what are the average wind speeds?



Depower Quiver: 14m Gin Eskimo, 10m Gin Eskimo III, 6m Gin Yeti, 4.5m Gin Yeti (custom bridle and mixer)
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[*] posted on 6-19-2017 at 12:30 PM


No single kite does it all.

Usually you need at least 2 depower kites to cover the lower and stronger winds. Really 3 kites is better. If you can only afford 2 kites having them slightly overlap your typical wind is probably best.

If you can only afford 1 kite get the smaller of the ideal 2 quiver size. Learning to milk every bit of power out of your kite is really valuable. Having a kite that means you don't have to pack up when wind gets strong is also good.

Next you need to decide if you want a kite with a bit of lift or not.

Used kites are the best bang for buck. Old used kites are best avoided. DON'T IMPULSE BUY!!!!!! Extremely cheap kites are usually that way for a reason!





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[*] posted on 6-20-2017 at 05:40 AM


for a nice collection of vids, google:
carltb Landboarding

He delivers a quality set of progressions in his tutorials.




Scout II 4m
Montana VI 9.5m
Matrix 15m
F-arcs 1200 & 1600
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Ozone Reo 8m
LF Envy 12m

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Crazyfly Shox 136 x42
North Nugget TT 5'2"
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[*] posted on 6-20-2017 at 09:33 AM
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[*] posted on 6-20-2017 at 09:56 AM


I weight 75 KG for 1M80

and budget is between 600 and 900 $

But i quite like the idea of a first kit to get going and invest in more in the future.

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[*] posted on 6-20-2017 at 11:16 AM


At 75kg you will want a depower kite in the 7.5-10m range depending upon your average wind speeds. Something like an Apex/Access if you want to remain on the ground and something like a Frenzy/Montana if you want lift and the ability to jump. Either are OK for learning but lifty kites require more diligence and should be flown in lower winds and milked for power as you learn. Less lifty kites offer less upwind ability but more stability. You say you fly on a big beach so that usually means smooth and predictable winds which are great for taming more lifty kites while leaving their lift available when wanted. I would go the Frenzy/Montana type route unless you want an arc or inflato then others can better guide you.



Depower Quiver: 14m Gin Eskimo, 10m Gin Eskimo III, 6m Gin Yeti, 4.5m Gin Yeti (custom bridle and mixer)
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[*] posted on 6-20-2017 at 12:22 PM


If buying on the used market you might consider a 6 or 9m Flysurfer Peak1 or Peak2. If you can consider new kites, the Born-Kite LongStar2s are a great call. They come in 2m increments from 3.5 to 9.5 and then jump to 12.5. I'd be thinking about a 5.5 and 9.5 as a two kite-quiver. One kite only? 7.5m. www.born-kite.de. FlyGin made excellent suggestions as well.



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Born-Kite LongStar-2 (3.5m, 5.5m, 7.5m, 9.5m, 12.5m);
Born-Kite NASA Star-3 (1.5m, 2.5m, 3.2m, 4.0m; z-bridled for handle flying)

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Peter Lynn Bigfoot+ modified with VTT rail & seat kit (a seriously great performance upgrade), Sysmic rims (because they look so damn cool), and BigKidKites AQR (because it keeps me in the bug)

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[*] posted on 6-20-2017 at 04:10 PM


6 - 900$ US gives you a few options.

Buy 2 used kites of slightly older models. Possibly 2 kites and only 1 bar?

Buy 1 better quality kite fitting the smaller of a 2 kite quiver. ( 3 kite if you plan to use your ignition for nuking winds ) . Use the extra money for a harness, set of line extensions etc..

Look for a used Peak.

If you look at your ignition as your high wind kite then something like 8 - 10m to get started and grow into higher winds. Then a 12 - 14 or bigger depending on how low your low winds usually are. True high wind depowers are more the 5 - 7 size but with a 2 kite + ignition quiver you may want to go a bit bigger?

What are the average wind speeds at your local spot. What do the locals fly most?







Kites: 2.5m Profoil , 4.9m QuadrifoilXL kitesurfer, 9m Flexi Blade II, NPW 5 Danger.
Flysurfer : 19m Speed 2 SA, 7m Pulse
Peter Lynn :18m Phantom, 15m Synergy, 10m Synergy, 1200 Farc, 460 Sarc, 130 Tarc, 5m Peel, 4.2m , 6.4, 8.5 C-Quads

Rides: Flexi / P.L. Frankin'Buggy , Shaped + straight skiis, sand skis, Coyote blades. Core 95 ATB. RKB R2 ATB .

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[*] posted on 6-21-2017 at 05:58 PM


What is your end goal with landboarding? Cruising, jumping, sand/grass? This could help determine which kite best suits your needs. If you want to eventually jump, a single skin might not be in your best interest. Also, normal wind speed as previously mentioned would be helpful.




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