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[*] posted on 6-16-2017 at 05:16 AM
Born-Kite StreetStar


Fanboys and fangirls: this just in, a brand new kite from the venerable Steffen Born. Looks interesting from the video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fNn3SR_vXc

From Steffen: It's a single skin depower kite with a one-hand control, without additional lines. Ideal for street kiting. It will be available from August in the sizes 2.0m, 4.0m and 6.0m.





I absolutely love how Steffen continues to innovate. I'm a huge fan of his NS3s and LS2s and it appears that he has created another most interesting kite, purpose built for a unique application.




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[*] posted on 6-16-2017 at 08:01 AM


I'm speechless. This looks like an amazing street kite engine. The larger window and landing features are big enhancements to to the ns3 imo. You can tell it has to be very maneuverable when flown off of what looks like a regular handle. Very cool.
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[*] posted on 6-16-2017 at 08:50 AM


Someone needs to buy one of those and send it to me for a few days. I'm starting a new company called "Air Piracy Kite Designs". I'll return it quickly and never fly it......




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[*] posted on 6-16-2017 at 09:01 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Randy  
Someone needs to buy one of those and send it to me for a few days. I'm starting a new company called "Air Piracy Kite Designs". I'll return it quickly and never fly it......


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Kites:
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Born-Kite NASA Star-3 (1.5m, 2.5m, 3.2m, 4.0m; z-bridled for handle flying)

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Peter Lynn Bigfoot+ modified with VTT rail & seat kit (a seriously great performance upgrade), two sets of Sysmic rims (one set with BigFoot slicks for the "beach" of the Great Salt Lake and the other with 6-ply trailer tires for the Ivanpah playa), and BigKidKites AQR (because it keeps me in the bug and in my marriage)

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[*] posted on 6-16-2017 at 09:11 AM


Haha! Not serious. I would imagine it is very hard, if not impossible, to copy ribs and panel shapes without taking the whole thing apart. I have used the "Single Skin" program for a few prototypes now. It is fairly easy to use and create templates. Now that the wind is taking the summer off I might try to do something like Ian's "Little Hammer" using the program.



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[*] posted on 6-16-2017 at 09:13 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Windstruck  
Quote: Originally posted by Randy  
Someone needs to buy one of those and send it to me for a few days. I'm starting a new company called "Air Piracy Kite Designs". I'll return it quickly and never fly it......


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This would be a great challenge for you Randy
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[*] posted on 6-16-2017 at 10:51 AM


Quote: Originally posted by ssayre  
Quote: Originally posted by Windstruck  
Quote: Originally posted by Randy  
Someone needs to buy one of those and send it to me for a few days. I'm starting a new company called "Air Piracy Kite Designs". I'll return it quickly and never fly it......


:puzzled:


Deleted. I see Randy replied :D

This would be a great challenge for you Randy


I agree with the good Mr. Sayre. I'd love to see some of your designs up close and in flight.




Kites:
Born-Kite LongStar-2 (3.5m, 5.5m, 7.5m, 9.5m, 12.5m);
Born-Kite NASA Star-3 (1.5m, 2.5m, 3.2m, 4.0m; z-bridled for handle flying)

Buggy:
Peter Lynn Bigfoot+ modified with VTT rail & seat kit (a seriously great performance upgrade), two sets of Sysmic rims (one set with BigFoot slicks for the "beach" of the Great Salt Lake and the other with 6-ply trailer tires for the Ivanpah playa), and BigKidKites AQR (because it keeps me in the bug and in my marriage)

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[*] posted on 6-16-2017 at 01:10 PM


I wonder if that bar would work on a NS3... could be interesting...



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[*] posted on 6-16-2017 at 02:18 PM


Quote: Originally posted by adambweird  
I wonder if that bar would work on a NS3... could be interesting...


Steffen teases us for about 5 seconds in his first-peek video starting at 1:50 with a look at the bridling and bar setup. It would appear that the kite gets some continuous support coming from bridle lines originating from the center of the bar and then separate and unique bridle sets at both bar ends. There is a DP action to the rigging that seems to work by pivoting the bar from the center such that flexing your wrist one way puts the kite into a power position and flexing it the other way "depowers" the kite.

Pretty cool design from what limited info I can glean from the same video we are all looking at. At first blush I'm thinking the bridling looks highly purpose-built for this specific kite/bar combo and I for one would suspect you'd encounter issues trying to retrofit the bar to existing NS bridling. Someone like Randy or others with actual NPW kite building experience (I've got zilch in that department) may be better able to speculate.

In case you didn't know this, I love this sort of stuff!




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Born-Kite LongStar-2 (3.5m, 5.5m, 7.5m, 9.5m, 12.5m);
Born-Kite NASA Star-3 (1.5m, 2.5m, 3.2m, 4.0m; z-bridled for handle flying)

Buggy:
Peter Lynn Bigfoot+ modified with VTT rail & seat kit (a seriously great performance upgrade), two sets of Sysmic rims (one set with BigFoot slicks for the "beach" of the Great Salt Lake and the other with 6-ply trailer tires for the Ivanpah playa), and BigKidKites AQR (because it keeps me in the bug and in my marriage)

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[*] posted on 6-16-2017 at 03:14 PM


Looks like he is using a similar control system to Paraskiflex.
A pretty popular way to go in Quebec.

Steffen may not be the 1st to use each of his designs but he certainly improves on one's that exist.




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[*] posted on 6-17-2017 at 02:37 AM


Paraskiflex has less lines , but along the entire leading edge, a rod is inserted. Just as at the C-Quad by Peter Lynn. Crash risk on hard ground.
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[*] posted on 6-17-2017 at 04:42 AM


Quote: Originally posted by adambweird  
I wonder if that bar would work on a NS3... could be interesting...


NPW's like the NS3 don't really have a useful depower capability. Normally depower works by changing the angle of attack of the kite which isn't very effective for NPW's. The NS3 kites "scrunch down" the nose of the kite to reduce the area and lift of the kite. You don't need a fancy bar to do that - a simple 3 line bar works fine. However, that method is not particularly useful in limiting power. It's been discussed (and debated) in other threads, but no one really seems to use the NS3 (or NS2) kites as depower and mainly uses the 3rd line as a kite killer.




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[*] posted on 6-17-2017 at 09:09 AM


Quote: Originally posted by adambweird  
I wonder if that bar would work on a NS3... could be interesting...


Check out this video of an NS2 with a "paraskiflex" bar:





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Born-Kite NASA Star-3 (1.5m, 2.5m, 3.2m, 4.0m; z-bridled for handle flying)

Buggy:
Peter Lynn Bigfoot+ modified with VTT rail & seat kit (a seriously great performance upgrade), two sets of Sysmic rims (one set with BigFoot slicks for the "beach" of the Great Salt Lake and the other with 6-ply trailer tires for the Ivanpah playa), and BigKidKites AQR (because it keeps me in the bug and in my marriage)

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[*] posted on 6-17-2017 at 02:42 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Windstruck  
Quote: Originally posted by ssayre  
Quote: Originally posted by Windstruck  
Quote: Originally posted by Randy  
Someone needs to buy one of those and send it to me for a few days. I'm starting a new company called "Air Piracy Kite Designs". I'll return it quickly and never fly it......


:puzzled:


Deleted. I see Randy replied :D

This would be a great challenge for you Randy




I agree with the good Mr. Sayre. I'd love to see some of your designs up close and in flight.



Well, Steve, you asked for it. Here are my latest prototypes.







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[*] posted on 6-17-2017 at 06:40 PM


So Randy, that was a super cool video. I felt like I was getting a stealth look at an original Twilight Zone episode. Very nice designs indeed. That must be a fun hobby to go from start to finish with all the various designs and then get to actually fly them. Thanks for the share buddy.



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Born-Kite NASA Star-3 (1.5m, 2.5m, 3.2m, 4.0m; z-bridled for handle flying)

Buggy:
Peter Lynn Bigfoot+ modified with VTT rail & seat kit (a seriously great performance upgrade), two sets of Sysmic rims (one set with BigFoot slicks for the "beach" of the Great Salt Lake and the other with 6-ply trailer tires for the Ivanpah playa), and BigKidKites AQR (because it keeps me in the bug and in my marriage)

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[*] posted on 6-18-2017 at 05:10 AM


Thanks Steve. I decided to make the pictures B&W and then saved it in low resolution to give the grainy look x-files theme seemed like a perfect fit. The first one (with several pictures) is the kite I made using the single skin program. I made another but later, but I don't seem to have any pictures or video of it. The second didn't fly as well anyway. The others are all variations on other plans.



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[*] posted on 6-18-2017 at 10:20 AM


with acres of empty parking lots around here, this is VERY interesting!



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[*] posted on 6-18-2017 at 11:59 AM


Quote: Originally posted by jrhook  
with acres of empty parking lots around here, this is VERY interesting!


Agreed. Steffen let me know via email that there is a street kiting scene of sorts emerging with young folks in Europe and that the StreetStar was designed in response to that.

Be the first on your block!* Said to be available in August. :karate:


*...or Continent for that matter...




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Born-Kite NASA Star-3 (1.5m, 2.5m, 3.2m, 4.0m; z-bridled for handle flying)

Buggy:
Peter Lynn Bigfoot+ modified with VTT rail & seat kit (a seriously great performance upgrade), two sets of Sysmic rims (one set with BigFoot slicks for the "beach" of the Great Salt Lake and the other with 6-ply trailer tires for the Ivanpah playa), and BigKidKites AQR (because it keeps me in the bug and in my marriage)

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[*] posted on 6-18-2017 at 05:11 PM


Id love to get one, but my vacation and sons bday are coming in 6 weeks, plus i think my wife will literally kneecap me if i buy another kite before replacing a window or two on the house, lol.



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[*] posted on 6-19-2017 at 03:40 PM


More StreetStar Born-Porn! :D







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Born-Kite NASA Star-3 (1.5m, 2.5m, 3.2m, 4.0m; z-bridled for handle flying)

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Peter Lynn Bigfoot+ modified with VTT rail & seat kit (a seriously great performance upgrade), two sets of Sysmic rims (one set with BigFoot slicks for the "beach" of the Great Salt Lake and the other with 6-ply trailer tires for the Ivanpah playa), and BigKidKites AQR (because it keeps me in the bug and in my marriage)

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[*] posted on 6-19-2017 at 04:54 PM


yeah...love the born porn!

So I'm wondering, if this is a 'depowerable' kite will the 6m be more like the 4m Nasa Star 3?

And will it sit as deep in the window because it looks like it might sit more forward and probably provide better upwind?

So Windstruck....you making the first purchase :P




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[*] posted on 6-20-2017 at 09:25 AM


With a longboard and some slide gloves, a one handed control system could allow for some nice hand-down power slides. I'll be keeping an eye on this one. Thanks for sharing.



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[*] posted on 6-20-2017 at 04:23 PM


It looks like he has the front bridles middle bridle and back separated with the middle going to the middle of the handle? This is how I think he has redesigned the Paraskiflex bar? Perhaps Paraskiflex also uses a 3 line set up? I may live in Canada but have never actually seen one. I don't see any pulleys but you must get some form of depower separating the middle like that?



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[*] posted on 6-21-2017 at 06:39 AM


Quote: Originally posted by B-Roc  
With a longboard and some slide gloves, a one handed control system could allow for some nice hand-down power slides. I'll be keeping an eye on this one. Thanks for sharing.


One handed control is already easily achieved on the nasa stars. With more skill, I'm sure I could have made that happen with the nasa's. I never bought protective gear or gloves so I never tried, but with your equipment and skill, it should be a breeze on a star or possibly this new kite.
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[*] posted on 6-24-2017 at 04:54 AM


Nasawing slides.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLLaR2IQI7s
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[*] posted on 6-24-2017 at 06:03 AM


Yet more StreetStar Born-Porn! Now showing all three sizes (2, 4, and 6m). This video is a set of stills that allows for clear views of the bridling. Everything a growing boy needs Randy! ;)






Kites:
Born-Kite LongStar-2 (3.5m, 5.5m, 7.5m, 9.5m, 12.5m);
Born-Kite NASA Star-3 (1.5m, 2.5m, 3.2m, 4.0m; z-bridled for handle flying)

Buggy:
Peter Lynn Bigfoot+ modified with VTT rail & seat kit (a seriously great performance upgrade), two sets of Sysmic rims (one set with BigFoot slicks for the "beach" of the Great Salt Lake and the other with 6-ply trailer tires for the Ivanpah playa), and BigKidKites AQR (because it keeps me in the bug and in my marriage)

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[*] posted on 6-24-2017 at 07:31 AM


Born is the master of Youtube marketing! Almost as innovative as his kites.



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[*] posted on 7-13-2017 at 10:37 AM


BORN KITE has released three videos for handling of Streetstar, in the next days there is more on the Facebook page.





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[*] posted on 7-13-2017 at 01:11 PM


Very clever bar system. I may try something similar on some of my x-kites.



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[*] posted on 7-13-2017 at 04:19 PM


Pretty clever for sure and nice to see the continuous innovation in this niche area. I struggle to accept that kite as a depowerable when it seems all that really happens is traditional FB braking. I don't see the AoA or wing profile changing. But that's just semantics. One of the limitations of this is that the kite seems to be designed to act more like a sail than a power kite meaning you can't fly super powered with only one hand so that may make hill work a bit more challenging if flown on trails or open roads or sloped parking lots. Again, no big deal for the niche market, just an observation.



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