Looking for a first kite for my son(160 lb) to use with his landboard. He has good board skills and can pilot a buggy with a depower in mild conditions. Should I look for a kite with handles or go depower? Any recommendations for a good beginner kite. Will be using in the Baltimore area mostly on grass.

Gemini6kls 7.5 apex...can't go wrong w/ that

While a 7.5 Apex could be a great choice, that totally depends on what type of winds he prefers to learn in. Looks like you have a pretty robust quiver. Why not let him have a go at a few of your kites and determine which style and size works best for him and then and then buy from there?

That would be a good idea but we live far apart.

Already SOLD.:D

Quote: Originally posted by abkayak

Gemini6kls 7.5 apex...can't go wrong w/ that

Burt- I would recommend that he start with depower- I think when I met him at ww - he already knows how to fly and in my opinion it is much easier to learn with a depower. I am still a huge believer in starting with an ARC which is what I started with and found to be the easiest after having tried fixed bridle as well as a few foil depowers- I started Andrew on Apexs and he liked it okay but really improved and "got it" when I put him on an ARC. So that's my 2 cents and that would not change even if I did not have a 13m venom II rtf for sale:D
Scott

Go depower without a doubt. Depowers make it so much easier to keep your balance and learn to trust the kite when it comes to leaning back against the pull.

+1 for an arc. So simple and stable.