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[*] posted on 12-31-2014 at 01:25 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZsmxLfPW38&list=UU91ChD...

i made a frame from a 40mm* 1 m pvc pipe in wich i put 2 teslecopic poles
mast here is 4 meter long
i want to use a water relaunchable kite on this frame to go on water
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[*] posted on 3-18-2015 at 01:25 AM


pansh adam 4,5
i will test this week end on a sup
weights is under 2 kg when if use bamboos ; a kitewing is 5,5 kg for the same surface

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh69iM_3WxA
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[*] posted on 3-18-2015 at 05:00 AM


Very interesting setup. I like your NPW/landboard vid also.



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[*] posted on 3-18-2015 at 08:34 AM


Yes what kind of landboard is that?
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[*] posted on 3-18-2015 at 09:41 AM


I'm pretty sure it's a dirtsurfer sadsack
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[*] posted on 3-18-2015 at 12:50 PM


maybe this board https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VIwNBB3Pm0

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[*] posted on 3-18-2015 at 03:36 PM


Quote: Originally posted by volock  
I'm pretty sure it's a dirtsurfer sadsack


Yup that looks like a dirt$urfer ( they aren't cheap ) and home made kite wing. There was a very good thread about a young fellow making a kite wing on here.

They are very cool and right up tour alley Sadsack. You should look into constructing one.




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[*] posted on 3-18-2015 at 11:50 PM


Sorry il thought everyone recognise a dirtsurfer. If s a gpx 2nd hand
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[*] posted on 3-22-2015 at 09:40 AM


to cold fur suping but i hav tried the pansh with the wind weapon frame very pleasant


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[*] posted on 4-4-2015 at 06:55 AM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aFQVPuS9co
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[*] posted on 4-4-2015 at 07:12 AM


Good video - like your ideas. I did something similar last year making a delta wing from a broken winfsurf boom and an old sail. Found I needed to have a board with a centerboard to sail across the wind. Made a bigger one out of the top half of broken windsurf masts (the bottom is the part that breaks and its hard to buy just that, so most windsurfers have some) but it became a bit unwieldy.









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[*] posted on 4-4-2015 at 10:04 AM


supwing didnt saw the title that s exactly what i want to do
i guess one day supers will use one

you could use it as a windskate
http://windskate.com/
i also cant go upwind with my sup
tomorow i ll hav more wind
i saw your nasawing water relaunchabale can you explain how you build it ?

Also i wanted to buy a kayakite does it work on sup?
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[*] posted on 4-5-2015 at 11:04 AM


I used the supwing on my landboard - it worked fairly well for that - but it was pretty small. The bigger one was too big for land, but worked on water - though a bit difficult. I got the idea from the windskate. The supwing worked pretty well on water with an sup. I got up to 7-8 mph when it was windy. It actually jibed into the wind nicely. I used it (and the larger one) on the river by where I live. Worked pretty well there because the current went against the wind, so going upwind and getting back down wind was pretty easy on my longboard windsurfer.

I actually got a Kayakite many years ago before i ever thought of traction kites. Used it it little but it didn't pull very hard. Recently though, I tried it again. One really nice thing is you can launch it from the water. I don't see why you couldn't use it with a sup. I also figured out you can make it two line and launch it from the water like a single line, then direct it some like a two line, then reel it back in like a single line. i thought being able to steer it would help you keep from going dead downwind. I tried it last week and did have some success with it but the wind was almost nothing at the time. I'll post a few video's I did. I think the Kayakite might be a good alternative, but maybe a bigger one would be better. Seems to me its just regular sled kite. I'm planning to try it again next time the wind is right.

Here's one i did showing my first try (in years) with the Kayakite. (Not all that serious - this was using it as single line.) My board is kind of like a sup - but pretty wide and short.



The water relaunch npw is standard 9b. I put foam tubes on the keel and in the nose. It worked in flat water right offshore, but I think using quad handles on the water is not that easy to do, and waves and chop would probably make that less viable. i might go back to that eventually.


Quote: Originally posted by alf  
supwing didnt saw the title that s exactly what i want to do
i guess one day supers will use one

you could use it as a windskate
http://windskate.com/
i also cant go upwind with my sup
tomorow i ll hav more wind
i saw your nasawing water relaunchabale can you explain how you build it ?

Also i wanted to buy a kayakite does it work on sup?




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[*] posted on 4-5-2015 at 11:09 AM


For some reason it doesnt want to post my two line Kayakite youtube, so i'll post the link here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XfbUm0VAi0

If you haven't seen it - this guy seems to have the NPW kite/kayak figured out.

http://www.sciencephotography.com/andy/kitekayaking.htm






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[*] posted on 4-5-2015 at 06:19 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Bladerunner  
Yup that looks like a dirt$urfer ( they aren't cheap ) and home made kite wing. There was a very good thread about a young fellow making a kite wing on here.



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[*] posted on 4-6-2015 at 06:29 AM


i wanted to purchase a 4 line sled 4 sqm to be used as traction kite for my sup but some users warned me
not water realauchable , no upwind
http://www.arnaudderosnay.com/index.php/inventeur/le-parafoi...

minute 6 he uses a bar on his 4 lines sled http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3jb73_20071102-sled-monofo...

my dream was to sit on my sup and be propeld by a sled , god for long trecks

looks like a modifed nasa can do it


for kitewing i hav used normal with darcon sail , it s good but heavy i prefer a sorft wing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa3mjXyWus8

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[*] posted on 4-6-2015 at 09:03 AM


A parafoil can be flown with two line - just a matter of changing the bridles a bit and adding a line.

I'm hoping to make a go of it with the sled and dual line. I've tried it already and it does help you control the direction some. Not sure if it could go across the wind, rather than down wind only.

The single keel NPW shown on the you tube can be made single, dual or quad line. I've built serveral dual/quad. Here is a link to plans, if you don't have them. The single line plans are there in his posting of pictures. it requires an 'auto pilot' which is not complicated, but i've never tried it. He also has plans for a dual line, but it works better to do it with an extra set of bridle lines.

http://users.telenet.be/claeskites/


Here is a youtube of my single keel used for pulling my landboard.
I'm heading to the Outer Banks and plan to try using the single keel with one of my windsurf boards. I'll report back. i have a lot of single keel NPW vids on my youtube channel, including one with Sean and me.



If you are interested in making a single keel NPW send me a U2U - I can send you some plans and tell you how to make them. They are the easiest NPW to make, far easier than the conventional models because there are no nose darts, less bridles, fewer seams.




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[*] posted on 4-8-2015 at 07:35 AM


i just looked your single keel vids and realize it would need 3 poles to frame along the bridles to make a kitewing of it

a 15 sqm would interst me as light wind kitewing
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[*] posted on 4-8-2015 at 08:14 AM


15 sqm sounds pretty big to me. Would be about 4.5 meters tall. I don't know if you have seen this, but it seems like what you are working towards - kite on a stick.

http://www.peterlynnhimself.com/newsletter/March_Nl_10.html


https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&...




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[*] posted on 4-8-2015 at 09:33 AM


i hav not succeded buying a 2nd hand c quad but i wanted to frame it to kitewing it
i had the idea when i saw the peter lynn pictures you showed above

i hav tried with to frame my nasa 13 sqm with bamboos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1obQENY5Ws

doable though i need sandows to fix bamboos together

i am very happy wiht the pansh adam it ' s a windsurf sail , a kitewing and a kite in one i can store the mast on my sup when i prefer to kite

, flysurfer guys told me they would send me a 8 sqm speed 4 to cut it for my frame but i hav no news till now

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[*] posted on 5-12-2015 at 02:44 AM


https://instagram.com/p/2gmahyOAQ1/
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[*] posted on 5-12-2015 at 04:15 AM


This one is pretty cool too.

https://instagram.com/p/seOOTaOAf6/?taken-by=logosz




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[*] posted on 5-22-2015 at 09:22 PM


Only need to unfold the telescopic mast to get rigged.


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2ywt1Fbehuk

Thé wing tips when inflated keep their shape so they dont need to be framed.
Hère thé mast ils 250 cm long I guess i can use a 8 m gênesis with a 4 meter mast



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[*] posted on 6-22-2015 at 11:19 AM


now with genesis 8 m mast is about 5 meter long
http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.yout...

i hav doubled it for fun
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[*] posted on 8-20-2015 at 02:08 AM


Found a new adjustable nose connetor
http://www.safesite.co.uk/products/keeguard-edge-protection/...


It allows to vary the diadrehal, so i will make a wingsurfer with a 15 sqm kite


http://sjarreau.free.fr/manubertin/narration/cdata_hd/wingsu...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvck266e4dw

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[*] posted on 8-20-2015 at 05:39 AM


Alf- check out speed rail at McMaster.com you can get the same piece only in aluminum



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[*] posted on 8-20-2015 at 01:10 PM


Tanks i have found that http://www.simplifiedbuilding.com/store/components/kee-lite/...

Oops il just have found if on mac aster. They call it adjustable angle elbow with through hole. I will save 400 grams
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[*] posted on 8-20-2015 at 01:29 PM


Hey Alf - looks like you have really got that wired now. Great work.





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[*] posted on 8-20-2015 at 01:55 PM


Tanks. I was as fast as funboards with 9 m sails except when théy plane il will try next weekend with a windsurf too cause isups dont glide

Nasawing from the bridles was also very fast but no relaunch. I will try with inner tubes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qGNavWjknU&feature=yout...

That would be better but if didnt find with thé correct length

http://www.decathlon.fr/bouee-snorkeling-sb-100-jaune-id_815...

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[*] posted on 12-7-2015 at 05:37 AM


Kitewing on water hasnt succseed because it was associated with a sinking surf board

But On a windsurf its easier than windsurfing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vIODxH7xFI&feature=yout...



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