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[*] posted on 11-3-2014 at 11:36 AM
Recommended ATB?


Hi, guys. First time posting, as I'm new to the sport. I'm a good athlete with surfing, skating and ski skills, so this seems like a natural progression for me and am digging the idea. I've got a good 10+ hours so far on my HQ Rush IV Pro 350 and am getting pretty good at it. I'd like to jump on a board, but the difficulty lies in my current size (265 lbs.), which from what I gather reduces the number of boards I should use, due to flex. I want something decent without breaking the bank (or the board). Any ideas?




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[*] posted on 11-3-2014 at 12:14 PM


Trampa only for us fat bastards:D



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[*] posted on 11-3-2014 at 12:38 PM


Its raining at my local park today, so I've time to post.

Im a birdlike weight 120lbs, with not alot of athletic prowess, skills or balance and 1.5 years power kite landboard experience. For you, Id suggest a custom Dupont Corian countertop with 4"x10" front go kart tires on 5" wheels, 35mmx 10mm x 17mm id bearings with custom spring steel axels mounted with automotive anti-roll bar bushings. Ive never made one myself, but I think it would be cool, and the wide kart tires would let you ride on the beach!

Or an off the shelf Trampa 17ply for the grass. I would think the board would survive, but the trucks, wheels and tires would take a punishing. Mobility 260x85-4 or 4.10/3.50-4 tires will fit on 4" MBS trispokes or 4" Primo trispokes which will bolt onto a standard mountain board 12mm axel truck.

Abe Alzouman from SKD uses an off the shelf MBS pro 90 board and he's a solid chap who gets big air! Also flysurfer's Lewis Wilby, jumps big air on those boards too.
Those guys ride smooth grass and tidal packed beach sand. Im hoping one day to do the same kite landboard tricks they do too.




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[*] posted on 11-3-2014 at 01:24 PM


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Im a birdlike weight 120lbs, with not alot of athletic prowess, skills or balance and 1.5 years power kite landboard experience. For you, Id suggest a custom Dupont Corian countertop with 4"x10" front go kart tires on 5" wheels, 35mmx 10mm x 17mm id bearings with custom spring steel axels mounted with automotive anti-roll bar bushings. Ive never made one myself, but I think it would be cool, and the wide kart tires would let you ride on the beach!


I lol'd at that. Thanks. :lol:

Worst of all I'm not even sure if you're joking about the rest of the specs after the Corian countertop, as I have no frame of reference! :puzzled:

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Or an off the shelf Trampa 17ply for the grass. I would think the board would survive, but the trucks, wheels and tires would take a punishing. Mobility 260x85-4 or 4.10/3.50-4 tires will fit on 4" MBS trispokes or 4" Primo trispokes which will bolt onto a standard mountain board 12mm axel truck.

Abe Alzouman from SKD uses an off the shelf MBS pro 90 board and he's a solid chap who gets big air! Also flysurfer's Lewis Wilby, jumps big air on those boards too.
Those guys ride smooth grass and tidal packed beach sand. Im hoping one day to do the same kite landboard tricks they do too.


Right, I didn't consider the trucks, etc. -- so, that is all Greek to me! I'm not looking to get big air yet, just cruise (for the time being). Could I get away with the MBS Pro 90 or am I really better off springing for a beefy Trampa?




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[*] posted on 11-3-2014 at 01:25 PM


MBS Comp 16 would work....the boards a tank



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[*] posted on 11-3-2014 at 04:17 PM


Ill let vthe experts make the recomendations. Just get any land/mountain board asap! It makes kiting so much more fun! Go for it!



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[*] posted on 11-3-2014 at 04:19 PM


Ill let vthe experts make the recomendations. Just get any land/mountain board asap! It makes kiting so much more fun! Go for it!



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[*] posted on 11-3-2014 at 06:01 PM


mann, still raining....check out this landboardin vid
https://vimeo.com/110456203




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[*] posted on 11-3-2014 at 06:49 PM


how tall are u ? leg length is more board choice element, mostly to fit stance , a small board will work just may feel squirrelly , avoid skate trucks at this point.

super stout older comp 26 MBS , definitely 9" tires and channel trucks. comp 95 would be fine ...comp 16 , old GI 106 .

not sure whats fresh on the market , but you got the details to get what need now







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[*] posted on 11-4-2014 at 06:30 AM


I'm 5' 10", but I'm all torso, short legs.



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[*] posted on 11-4-2014 at 06:47 AM


@psycho- seriously i would recommend that you look at a trampa with channel trucks and 17ply- i am about same height and a little lighter 240lbs and i love my trampa - i had tried an mbs and a couple of ground industries and they were all to soft for me and my svelte physique
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[*] posted on 11-4-2014 at 07:18 AM


theres your answer



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[*] posted on 11-4-2014 at 08:32 AM


I'm ok with that, but if I go with a Trampa -- which one do I choose? And what's "Dampa" stiffness? Heel straps or no?

What about this one -- http://www.trampaboards.com/kiteboard--35-long-deck--inifini... ? Too much/not enough board?

Sorry, guys -- I'm an absolute n00b.




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[*] posted on 11-4-2014 at 08:53 AM


thats a nice board...it will certainly do the job and i doubt your next would be any better



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[*] posted on 11-4-2014 at 09:05 AM


you are looking at the right place- i ride a 35 degree short 15 ply (most can have on a shorty) and if you have skateboard experience, or intend to do more freestyle than speed runs would go short. As for the 9" wheels if you are planning on rougher surface or grass fields then the 9s might be a good idea but add a ton of weight- i have both and much prefer the 8" wheels, regular velcro bindings no heel straps. and you will be good to go
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[*] posted on 11-4-2014 at 09:53 AM


All of their boards w/ 9" tires are 35 long, though. I plan on doing most of my riding in grass. What the heck do they mean by "DAMPA" stiffness and what value of that should I go with? And how do I know if they are channel trucks or not?



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[*] posted on 11-4-2014 at 10:12 AM


http://www.trampaboards.com/kiteboard--35-short-deck-on-infi...

there it is- dampas is the little bumpers inside the springs on the channel trucks- and i have no idea what i have in mine so cant help you there other than what they do is help stiffen the trucks when turning




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[*] posted on 11-4-2014 at 10:39 AM


Right, but above jy1zoom says I should go with 17-ply and 9" tires. And their website only shows boards with 9" tires are long. Or should I just stick with 8" tires even though I'm going primarily on grass?

Now I'm really confused...:dunno:




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[*] posted on 11-4-2014 at 11:15 AM


i vote 17 w/ the 9's....i find the bigger tyres eaiser to get going...i hope you were a skateboarder cause it helps
if not get a longboard and ride some..you need dampas for sure...at least the greens my big friend




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[*] posted on 11-4-2014 at 12:10 PM


my opinion- smooth clean grass fields that are regularly mowed think nice municipal park or soccer fields then go 8" wheels nasty fields that are mowed every couple of weeks or might have gopher holes or mole tracks- think part time parking lot at fairgrounds the 9s would be nicer will be smoother and maybe a little stabler if long definetly 17 ply. if you were thinking mowed hayfield or cowpasture think buggy




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[*] posted on 11-5-2014 at 12:00 PM


I've been talking to Ted at Trampa -- I think I'm going to go with 35 long @ 17ply w/ 9" wheels. Thanks everyone for your help!



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[*] posted on 11-5-2014 at 12:32 PM


thats what you call going to the source- teds a great guy and should know what he is talking about- enjoy




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[*] posted on 11-10-2014 at 11:01 AM


Alright, got my board. Putting it together now, although I'm guessing with a few things as there are no instructions and I have no clue what I'm doing. The flat round spacers (with the colored plastic center) that go with the wheel on the axle -- one on each side? Do they get pressed/hammered into the wheel itself or ride on the outside of the wheel? Looking at pictures that show them IN but that didn't seem like an option when I put them on, they only went in a few mm's.



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[*] posted on 11-10-2014 at 11:11 AM


first...no hammers, not w/ new equipment, 2nd take a pic so we can follow



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[*] posted on 11-10-2014 at 11:44 AM


Well, not so much hammer, as mallet...Anyway, here's what I mean: from what I can tell via Google image search, these are supposed to be flush with the wheel, not sticking out.



I'm guessing the small one goes in the center, and the two larger ones get tapped into the corresponding space in the wheel.





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[*] posted on 11-10-2014 at 11:53 AM


yea u got it...should all pull in as you tighten it all up
spacer goes in the middle of wheel, bearing on ea. side




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[*] posted on 11-10-2014 at 11:57 AM


Ah, ok, so don't tap them in, just tighten the axle bolt until they get pressed in?



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[*] posted on 11-10-2014 at 12:01 PM


u can tap them in or start them...but be careful, make sure you dont crush/damage the seals, tightening the nut on the axle will bring it all together



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[*] posted on 11-10-2014 at 12:02 PM


That's not doing it -- the axle nut tightens completely and they only get pressed in a few mm's, and they don't seem to be getting pressed in straight either.



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[*] posted on 11-10-2014 at 12:14 PM


take your time to get them started and put them in straight, i sometimes line up a socket to tap them in
and work over wood on the back side against the rim, again make sure u are not damaging those seals




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