Power Kite Forum
Not logged in [Login - Register]
Go To Bottom

Printable Version  
Author: Subject: finally making progress on my project
markite
Posting Freak
*****


Avatar


Posts: 1769
Registered: 8-3-2004
Location: Cambridge, ON, Canada
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 28-5-2014 at 10:45 PM
finally making progress on my project


I went with Fiona to pick up this kite cat back in April - I was to pick it up late fall but too many things interrupted and winter too soon delayed my pick up.
I acquired it from a long time friend and it's in very rough shape and needs a lot of TLC and refurbishing. If anyone happened to be in OBX when AJ was out sailing around on a cat, you'll recognize this as the same craft.
I hope to get the spirit of AJ out on the water again this summer in Ontario.
It's been totally disassembled and this last weekend I finished sanding the hulls. There are a number of old patches and cracks but with the help of a friend I'll do an overhaul repair job - still a lot of work to do.

pick up 1.jpg - 57kB pick up 2.jpg - 67kB Mark_sanding.jpg - 54kB one done.jpg - 70kB two done.jpg - 77kB



Mark Groshens NAPKA KC 13
WindSpeed kites & design - Canada
Peter Lynn Arcs: Charger2 22.5 +18 + 15 + 6.5, Charger I 6, Scorpion 16 + 10, Phantom II 12 + 9, Orig Phantom 9 + 6, Synergy 10 + 8, F 1200, S 840
Ocean Rodeo: Flite 17 + 12, Rise 13 + 10 + 7, Razor 9 + 6
Foils: PL Leopards and Lynx, Airea Raptors, some PL Reactor IIs + IIIs, Libre Spirits, Cross Kite Sonics, Ozone Flow
Peter Lynn Kite Cat for cruising the lakes
buggies: PL XR+, Cameleon Pagona, custom bigfoot, PL Bigfoot, custom ice buggy
Boards: 2 custom directionals, O.R Surf series 6-3 and 5-11, Mako Duke, Mako Skinny, Mako 140 Wide, Mako 150 Wide, Mako King, Brunotti
lots of old school skis, snowboard
View user's profile
3shot
Posting Freak
*****


Avatar


Posts: 2631
Registered: 14-2-2013
Location: Virginia
Member Is Offline

Mood: JIBE Talkin'

[*] posted on 29-5-2014 at 04:19 AM


Honestly Mark, half the fun is in restoring it. :thumbup:



Cross Kites Sonic 3, 5m
Ozone Flow 2, 3, 4, 5m
Ace II 4, 5m
NAPKA-US24
4, 5, 6m ATB landsurfer. Custom longboard deck
Buggy: VTT Black Widow v2.0



http://hint.fm/wind/

View user's profile
PHREERIDER
Posting Freak
*****


Avatar


Posts: 5781
Registered: 13-2-2008
Location: SC
Member Is Offline

Mood: chilled....but ready to SAIL!

[*] posted on 29-5-2014 at 05:22 AM


very nice mark, definitely fun in every direction.



TEAM RIDER for Coastal Wind Sports

http://www.coastalwindsports.com/

VIDEOS for your entertainment while you wait.

http://vimeo.com/user4948152/videos

http://www.youtube.com/user/goldendmd?feature=mhsn
View user's profile
RedSky
Posting Freak
*****


Avatar


Posts: 1745
Registered: 7-9-2009
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 29-5-2014 at 05:36 AM


That's a rare early kitecat and worth restoring. I have a later one. Look forward to seeing your progress and sailing video. ;)
View user's profile
markite
Posting Freak
*****


Avatar


Posts: 1769
Registered: 8-3-2004
Location: Cambridge, ON, Canada
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 29-5-2014 at 06:21 AM


The biggest battle so far was getting it on my car - the cross bars on my roof rack are fairly close so I needed to make wooden extensions that would fit on the roof and lots of straps running through the windows to hold all that down first. Then the hulls had water in them and trying to get it up high and work it onto the roof with Fiona was a comedy act - a little crying from someone when she kept hitting her head on the rudders. The seat was totally destroyed so I was lucky that Jenny still had one at PL. Just being able to transport it will be the biggest thing, I'm used to throwing all the gear in and boards on the roof and go - this will be a lot more work. Aaron Saude has a nice trailer for his and that may end being the way to go at some point. Eric Brackenbury in Ottawa also has one of the same generation so I'll have to start picking your brains about using it. I've seen your videos and have been skimming the old kite cat users forum - I'm sure i'll have a lot of questions. I'll send you an email RedSky but what were the biggest changes from early to later models; the frame folds. Did Dave Kay change the hull construction?

Coming back into Canada with it was the funniest - all the looks in line at the border and then it was like the customs agent never saw it as he asked "bringing anything back today?" and I just pointed upward and his face said it all "what the heck is that?"
He was funny and no problems but we had only driven a few blocks across the border to get it and once back over was when we started to pick up speed getting on the highway and I wasn't sure what would happen and eased it up like a test pilot to 85kmh, 88, 90, 92, 95, 98, 100kmh - we looked at each other with a sigh of relief and 5 seconds later "whap, whap, WHAP BANG!" and something flies off. I though the rack was coming apart and we pulled over. After inspection I'm sure it was some of the torn seat panels separating.

photo 2.JPG - 90kB



Mark Groshens NAPKA KC 13
WindSpeed kites & design - Canada
Peter Lynn Arcs: Charger2 22.5 +18 + 15 + 6.5, Charger I 6, Scorpion 16 + 10, Phantom II 12 + 9, Orig Phantom 9 + 6, Synergy 10 + 8, F 1200, S 840
Ocean Rodeo: Flite 17 + 12, Rise 13 + 10 + 7, Razor 9 + 6
Foils: PL Leopards and Lynx, Airea Raptors, some PL Reactor IIs + IIIs, Libre Spirits, Cross Kite Sonics, Ozone Flow
Peter Lynn Kite Cat for cruising the lakes
buggies: PL XR+, Cameleon Pagona, custom bigfoot, PL Bigfoot, custom ice buggy
Boards: 2 custom directionals, O.R Surf series 6-3 and 5-11, Mako Duke, Mako Skinny, Mako 140 Wide, Mako 150 Wide, Mako King, Brunotti
lots of old school skis, snowboard
View user's profile
BeamerBob
Posting Freak
*****


Avatar


Posts: 8308
Registered: 11-5-2007
Location: Down on the bayou
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 29-5-2014 at 07:06 AM


I met up with AJ at Kitty Hawk Kites while visiting my parents who were spending the fall there in their RV. One of the times I was there, we went back to where the Kite Kat was and I sat in it. Seat was ok then. It tugs at my heart to remember all that, but somehow there is a part of AJ in there so I can't wait to see you bring it back.




Coastal Wind Sports Team Rider
Landsegler Disc wheels
PTW Hero Buggy - XXtreme ApeXX Buggy US 88 - Libre Hardcore
IvanpahBuggyExpo.com
Youtube link
Bob Muse
HQ Montana X 8m, Montana IX 12m, HQ Ignition LEI 5m,
PL Phantom 12m, 15m, Big Blu 24m+, Synergy 10m, Venom 10m, 13m , Phantom II 12m Vapors 3.8, 5.4, Crosskite Sonic 7m, PKD Combat 10.3m
Uturn Butane 2.5m PKD Buster 3m Genetrix Hydra 7m Ozone Yakuza GT 14m
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
Bladerunner
Posting Freak
*****


Avatar


Posts: 9679
Registered: 17-10-2006
Location: Vancouver
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 29-5-2014 at 07:31 AM


The Spirit of AJ. What an amazing thing to do !

I was going to say what an amazing thing to call her but this boat will have the spirit of a Good Man ! :thumbup:



Kites: 2.5m Profoil , Quadrifoil XL kitesurfer, NPW 5 Danger.
Flexifoil: 1.7m Sting, 4.9m Blade 3, 9m Blade 2.
Flysurfer : 19m Speed 2 SA, 7m Pulse
Peter Lynn :18m Phantom, 15m Synergy, 10m Synergy, 1200 Farc, 460 Sarc, 130 Tarc, 5m Peel, 4.2m , 6.4, 8.5 C-Quads, 3.5 LS2 single skin.

Rides: Flexi / P.L. Frankin'Buggy , Shaped + straight skiis, sand skis, Coyote blades. Core 95 ATB. RKB R2 ATB .

Ken (K2)
View user's profile
ilivni
Junior Member
**




Posts: 41
Registered: 7-11-2013
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 29-5-2014 at 08:30 AM


Cannot wait to see/try it at JIBE next year. :P:D
View user's profile
Demoknight
Posting Freak
*****


Avatar


Posts: 1150
Registered: 7-6-2013
Location: Atlanta, GA
Member Is Offline

Mood: ADIDAK

[*] posted on 29-5-2014 at 08:38 AM


I would so love to try a kite kat on the lake! They look like a ton of fun.



NAPKA US8008

Kites:

Ozone R1 V3 7m
Flysurfer Sonic v3 15m
Flysurfer Speed 3 Deluxe 19m
Peter Lynn Charger 2 12m
Ozone Access Reride 6m
Peter Lynn 2013 Reactor 5.5m
Peter Lynn 2013 Reactor 8.6m
Prism Tensor 5.0m

Ride:
GT-Race Code:R6
Weird Beard VTT Custom
View user's profile
rudeboysaude
Member
***




Posts: 279
Registered: 18-1-2004
Location: Bigfork, MN
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood.

[*] posted on 29-5-2014 at 08:58 AM


Congrats on the project! I'm glad to hear you got it. AJ was one who inspired me to get a kite cat and I remember chatting with him about it. Very cool to see it being restored and I look forward to seeing some photos of it in action.

The Yakima Rack and Roll is a nice trailer for the cat. You can walk it down to the water on the trailer and almost slide it in. I got mine all assembled and ready for water time just hoping to find time to actually use it.



Peter Lynn Snowkite Team
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
3shot
Posting Freak
*****


Avatar


Posts: 2631
Registered: 14-2-2013
Location: Virginia
Member Is Offline

Mood: JIBE Talkin'

[*] posted on 29-5-2014 at 01:12 PM


I never met AJ. Wish I did. Everyone speaks very highly of him and what a great kiter and person he was. That is an awesome gesture to carry on with that project Mark. Would love to see that in person. You might as well figure on a tow trailer for all the toys at JIBE next year. Lol



Cross Kites Sonic 3, 5m
Ozone Flow 2, 3, 4, 5m
Ace II 4, 5m
NAPKA-US24
4, 5, 6m ATB landsurfer. Custom longboard deck
Buggy: VTT Black Widow v2.0



http://hint.fm/wind/

View user's profile
RedSky
Posting Freak
*****


Avatar


Posts: 1745
Registered: 7-9-2009
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 29-5-2014 at 09:46 PM


Quote: Originally posted by markite  
The biggest battle so far was getting it on my car - the cross bars on my roof rack are fairly close so I needed to make wooden extensions that would fit on the roof and lots of straps running through the windows to hold all that down first. Then the hulls had water in them and trying to get it up high and work it onto the roof with Fiona was a comedy act - a little crying from someone when she kept hitting her head on the rudders.


Mark,

I'm no expert on the KiteCat but from looking at yours those rear rudders are of an older style. The later ones were directly underneath the hulls. That's about the extent of my knowledge I'm afraid.

I was given the original KiteCat roof bars with rollers which make placing the Cat onto the roof a quick an easy one man job. If you want to make your own then it shouldn't be too hard. Those rollers are only half the width of the hulls and are covered with a rubber hose material. The upright guides help keep the Cat secure when on the move using a ratchet strap.

[ pictured here are the front and rear roof bars, only the rear bars have rollers ]





Also here's the original KiteCat promo video showing how the Cat is loaded onto a car roof with rollers. ( Skip to 6:05 )



I'm not sure how far you need to walk with the KiteCat to the waters edge but I sometimes had to walk a two mile round trip, so I decided to use the buggy as a launching trolley. Yours may not fold but I'm sure it would be just as easy with a little imagination to modify any buggy to take it. I used just two unsecured planks of wood. Job done. :)



View user's profile
markite
Posting Freak
*****


Avatar


Posts: 1769
Registered: 8-3-2004
Location: Cambridge, ON, Canada
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 30-5-2014 at 12:40 PM


thanks Tom
This is an early one, it doesn't fold easily but there are a number of things I could unscrew to get it to fold a little but not as nice as the later versions. The rear rudders are different (this one has some good rock dents and bends that have been hammered back into rough shape) and there is the protective sheeting on top of the hulls in possible contact points for the steering linkage.
I though about trying to make simple rollers out of two sizes of abs plumbing tube that nest together nicely but it's still a lot of work mounting the wood on my car outside of the roof racks to get a good spacing and having the straps running across inside the car just to secure the wood - but I can work on that later and come up with a system that doesn't involve hurting Fiona in loading and unloading, but I'll probably give here a hand :)

A few of the beaches are a distance from the car and the first thing i thought of was bigfoot buggy trailer. I may even rig up some kind of cradle that I can take. I have lot's of questions but they will come in time - like how you get back on it when lifted off - no side skirts, I may need to make something here too. I've seen loading the kite a little to lift up and on from the back - there are also lots of small sharp bits at all blows and exposed bolts - I'll have to make small neoprene sock protectors.

Anyway I'm looking forward to it, I hope you can get out soon as well Aaron - I love your trailer and had a friend convinced to buy your cat when you were thinking of selling but he just didn't want to drive from here to get it.
Where Fiona lives in Scotland would be ideal to have it - she lives right on the beach at Broughty Ferry and walk out the front door and across to the Tay - mind you it is colder water with the North Sea right there and a fairly fast current at times.

I have to thank my long time friend Meg Albers for contacting me about the kite cat. She is the owner and had been in a relationship with AJ for a long time and AJ was the caretaker of the kite cat and she brought it back to Buffalo after his death. It has a lot of emotional attachment for her as well but it was sitting outside in Buffalo getting weathered so we have an agreement and although it's mine it'll always be shared in body and spirit by a few of us.

It would be fun at JIBE cruising the shore - I'm pretty loaded down already and a long drive so I'll have to see about it next year - al long way off.
But if anyone ever comes to Ontario for holidays or business let me know - I can always brings lots of kites, boards, buggies to meet up and hopefully the cat soon - you just bring lunch I'll supply the rest!




Mark Groshens NAPKA KC 13
WindSpeed kites & design - Canada
Peter Lynn Arcs: Charger2 22.5 +18 + 15 + 6.5, Charger I 6, Scorpion 16 + 10, Phantom II 12 + 9, Orig Phantom 9 + 6, Synergy 10 + 8, F 1200, S 840
Ocean Rodeo: Flite 17 + 12, Rise 13 + 10 + 7, Razor 9 + 6
Foils: PL Leopards and Lynx, Airea Raptors, some PL Reactor IIs + IIIs, Libre Spirits, Cross Kite Sonics, Ozone Flow
Peter Lynn Kite Cat for cruising the lakes
buggies: PL XR+, Cameleon Pagona, custom bigfoot, PL Bigfoot, custom ice buggy
Boards: 2 custom directionals, O.R Surf series 6-3 and 5-11, Mako Duke, Mako Skinny, Mako 140 Wide, Mako 150 Wide, Mako King, Brunotti
lots of old school skis, snowboard
View user's profile
markite
Posting Freak
*****


Avatar


Posts: 1769
Registered: 8-3-2004
Location: Cambridge, ON, Canada
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 29-9-2014 at 10:15 AM


It's been a long slow go trying to get the kite cat fixed up this summer. It was looking like it might not get done until the snow starts to blow. There was a kiteboarding charity event planned on the weekend and it was nice and sunny and warm (with almost no wind in the forecast) so I took all the parts north with me to assemble it all and get it in the water to check a few things over. It needs some tweaks and still needs some artwork and final paint job which will likely happen now over the fall or winter but at least I dipped the cat in the water again.


cat in the water_small.jpg - 144kB



Mark Groshens NAPKA KC 13
WindSpeed kites & design - Canada
Peter Lynn Arcs: Charger2 22.5 +18 + 15 + 6.5, Charger I 6, Scorpion 16 + 10, Phantom II 12 + 9, Orig Phantom 9 + 6, Synergy 10 + 8, F 1200, S 840
Ocean Rodeo: Flite 17 + 12, Rise 13 + 10 + 7, Razor 9 + 6
Foils: PL Leopards and Lynx, Airea Raptors, some PL Reactor IIs + IIIs, Libre Spirits, Cross Kite Sonics, Ozone Flow
Peter Lynn Kite Cat for cruising the lakes
buggies: PL XR+, Cameleon Pagona, custom bigfoot, PL Bigfoot, custom ice buggy
Boards: 2 custom directionals, O.R Surf series 6-3 and 5-11, Mako Duke, Mako Skinny, Mako 140 Wide, Mako 150 Wide, Mako King, Brunotti
lots of old school skis, snowboard
View user's profile
kiteballoon
Member
***


Avatar


Posts: 233
Registered: 28-8-2012
Location: North Florida
Member Is Offline

Mood: The desert calls to me. NABX <3

[*] posted on 29-9-2014 at 02:03 PM


As a cat sailor, I would love to sail one of these. If you bring it to JIBE, I may have to make a fool of myself trying.

Boats belong in the water, and the kitecat looks much happier in the lake than on the roof of your car.

What are you thinking for a paintjob?



Currently enjoying a Charger 2 quiver
6.5, 8M, 10M, 12M <3
PL XR+ Buggy
View user's profile
ssayre
Posting Freak
*****




Posts: 3588
Registered: 15-8-2013
Location: Indiana
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 29-9-2014 at 06:45 PM


Can't wait to see some video of it in action. Looks like a base coat of silver metallic on it?
View user's profile
soliver
Posting Freak
*****




Posts: 3913
Registered: 15-12-2011
Location: somewhere, far, far away
Member Is Offline

Mood: sleepy

[*] posted on 29-9-2014 at 08:43 PM


VERY cool Mark... Knowing your talent, I'm excited to see how you adorn your cat!!



I'm going to take a nap now
View user's profile
3shot
Posting Freak
*****


Avatar


Posts: 2631
Registered: 14-2-2013
Location: Virginia
Member Is Offline

Mood: JIBE Talkin'

[*] posted on 30-9-2014 at 04:42 AM


Looking good my friend!



Cross Kites Sonic 3, 5m
Ozone Flow 2, 3, 4, 5m
Ace II 4, 5m
NAPKA-US24
4, 5, 6m ATB landsurfer. Custom longboard deck
Buggy: VTT Black Widow v2.0



http://hint.fm/wind/

View user's profile
PHREERIDER
Posting Freak
*****


Avatar


Posts: 5781
Registered: 13-2-2008
Location: SC
Member Is Offline

Mood: chilled....but ready to SAIL!

[*] posted on 30-9-2014 at 07:02 AM


man that is nice!



TEAM RIDER for Coastal Wind Sports

http://www.coastalwindsports.com/

VIDEOS for your entertainment while you wait.

http://vimeo.com/user4948152/videos

http://www.youtube.com/user/goldendmd?feature=mhsn
View user's profile

  Go To Top

Hosted by: Mad Moose Studio