hellnferno
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Upgrading from handlers to control bar?
I am about to get 6m Ozone Fury. I was wondering if I can upgrade from handlers to control bar in the future for kiteboarding? If so.. which cheapest
and best control bar I should look for? Thanks!
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AnnieO
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I would not call going from handles to a bar an upgrade, however, for land boarding only purposes a bar is useful.
PKD makes a really nice crossover bar for 4-line fixed bridle kites at a good price. Will cost much less than an Ozone Turbo bar for basically the
same kind of performance..
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elfasa
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I have to say I am a big fan of my Ozone Turbo bar. Don't have any plans to use handles regularly again. (Although I'm also slowly making the move to
Depowers).
Some people don't like them, and that's fine. But IMHO what they do, (bar for FBs) they do best. (They do work better on some kites than others. And
sometimes needs a bit of tuning, but its not difficult!)
My recommendation: try and hook up with someone that has one and you can have a play on it !
Tim
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hellnferno
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Yeah I was thinking the same thing. So are you saying that I will be able to change from handler to a 4-line control bar similar to this for the ozone
fury? http://www.powerkiteshop.com/accessories/ozonesamuraicontrol...
http://www.powerkiteshop.com/accessories/hqbeamercontrolbar....
or
http://www.powerkiteshop.com/accessories/flexifoiltractionli...
Thanks!
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Flexifoil Traction Lite Bar

55cm size is suitable for kites up to about 3.5 - 4.0 sq. meters.
65cm size is suitable for kites over 3.5 - 4.0 sq. meters.
Meant for smaller/recreational fixed bridle foils.
Wrist safety
Flexifoil Traction Extreme Bar

Meant for larger fixed bridle kites
Designed for use with a harness
Primary safety is a tophat release just above the chicken loop.
Secondary safety is a pin release on the leash connecting the chicken loop to the bar.
HQ Safety Control Bar (available in 50cm & 60cm)

Wrist safety with a tophat release.
HQ Safety Control Bar "X-Over"

Originally designed for the HQ Scout I kite.
Cross-over linkage applies opposing brake during turn inputs to make for sharper turns.
Wrist safety
Ozone 4-line Fixed Bridle Bar

Fixed chicken loop. Letting go of the bar will not activate the brakes unless the chicken loop is also released.
Wrist safety
Can be used with a harness, but not required.
Ozone Turbo Bar

Designed for use with a harness
Cross-over linkage applies opposing brake during turn inputs to make for sharper turns.
Individual back line trimmers
Tophat primary safety
Chicken loop secondary safety
Leash attachment point on brake handle for flying unhooked
Peter Lynn Powerkite Bar

Wrist safety
Trim via center brake strap.
PKD Cross Over Control Bar

Cross-over linkage applies opposing brake during turn inputs to make for sharper turns.
Harness not required, but can be used with a D-Loop
Wrist safety
Cross over bars allow a kite to turn faster, but with the exception of the PKD Crossover bar, tend to be more expensive.
ATB,
Sam
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hellnferno
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Wow that is a lot of information, thanks Sam!
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Turtlejon
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Yes, a very informative post there, thank you!
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lives2fly
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I use a flexi traction extreme bar (the long version) on my 5.6 and 6.6 and a traction lite on my 3.5 and 4.7 - you really need a long bar on bigger
FB's I have a short peter lynn bar that came with my Twister but it's useless.
The biggest advantage of a bar is you can fly one handed. Toeside riding, 180's to and from toeside and heelside to toeside carves are easier to learn
and more comfortable.
I also prefer the connection to the harness with a bar particularly with a chicken loop.
Having said all this I'm flying my FB's with handles most of the time these days - you have a lot more fine control - particularly in light winds.
If you really want to upgrade then get a depower set up.
12m & 7.5m Naish Cults, 10m & 12mNaish Parks, 9m Naish Bolt, 6m & 14m Naish X3\'s, 13m PL Venom, 10m Ozone Access,
3.5m Flexifoil Bullet, 4.7m flexi Rage, 5.6m PL Twister II, 6.6m flexi Blade, 1.5m flexi Buzz
Flexifoil landboards and Buggy, Airush Switch 142, Slingshot Misfit 136, Fischer Skis, Palmer & Drake Snowboards.
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BeamerBob
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Just a clarification, but you won't want to take an Ozone Fury on water since it is an open cell foil. It will instantly be sucked into the water if
you touch it with any impact.
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hellnferno
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I am using it on my mountainboard tho. I will start with handlers to learn basic flying characters then move to basic control bar with chicken loop or
get a depower if I am rich enough after the camp
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BeamerBob
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And these devices are usually referred to as "handles". I thought "handlers" was a typo but it keeps showing up.
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