Not sure if this poll crosses any pkf guidelines or not but I'm curious who would have ended up as president if only the votes of the pkf members counted...

Do you really want to get into this?

Yeah, I know, the two things you don't discuss with your kite buds, "religion and politics"...

None of the above.....:P

I've LOVED PKF as a oasis in this storm of politics. Let's not get into it.


Though...OPEN INVITES TO DILLON COLORADO SNOWKITE OPEN.....bladerunner I'm looking at you

answered the poll and i had deleted a post this morning commenting on the same thing- why is it that as a society we are punishing the desire to succeed, i run a successful business and am seriously considering going galt. if you dont know what that means read "atlas shrugged" by Ayn Rand (published in 1957) and see what is happening to our country today
scott

I can happily report that "Atlas Shrugged" is a work of fiction and is staying that way.

And also, this is exactly what I didn't want to talk about.

I voted for joeblinky

He happens to be a PKF member. Does that mean I voted for pkf?

i think star trek was fiction as well but we have tablets and cell phones today......... did not say it was non fiction just explained what i was considering doing based on a character in the book no need to start a pi$$ing war
scott

My wife wrote in Mickey Mouse, and I wrote in Yoda, he is the smartest out there by a long shot! With Disney and Star Wars linking up, it should be a great 4 years!

All kidding aside, I will gracefully bow out of the poll! Love my kites, love my kite buds! Don't want to mix the two up!

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Originally posted by flyguy0101 no need to start a pi$$ing war scott

then don't $%^&ing say "see what is happening to our country today" that's a very incendiary point of view. People will get very very riled up when you make such a claim.


Really hate it when people stir the pot and then claim they aren't stirrin.

Again, this is definitely something I want OFF of PKF. The only politics we should talk should be related to plovers and crap like that.

The majority has spoken! our world will continue to spin..

In 4 more years I can actually say he will not be back again!

Delete this negitive thread

My Grandmother always said to me as a little kid when I asked her who she voted for.... which I still remember to this day and is actually really good advise.

I DONT TALK ABOUT RELIGION OR POLITICS WITH FRIENDS OR FAMILY. I will say... there were rarely arguments at the dinner table or family picnics... :eureka:

I found a disturbing lack of fur among the candidates.



Political discussions are best done:

1. in person (liquor optional or necessary, depending on your point of view)
   
2. OTHER forums (there are plenty of political ones)
   

I apologize if that doesn't satisfy your curiousity.

If Facebook is any indication there are PKF members that do and don't have political views that align with mine. And I am fine with that (really).

If it's all the same with everyone I would prefer to leave that off the kite field and likewise this forum.

Trying to change hearts and minds over the Internet is just an exhausting exercise in futility that leaves both sides bloodied and resentful.

If you are on Facebook and want to read a much more comprehensive essay on the topic read Larry Embry's's timeline (kudos and huzzah, Larry).

There is more that is wrong with what the political system has become, the campaign and ancillary campaign structures/ process, and the lobby structure that can possibly be civilly dealt with in one thread, so for the sake of everyone's sanity, it would be best if we left these topics at the PKF door.

All the best to you & yours,
Sam

P.S. I like pumpkin pie.

It's just a pole sheesh

I kind of spliced a couple things together...

..but I voted for Medical Mar-Obama.

or did I? Can't remember?

but it did pass... in Mass.(MA)! Thank me later:wee:

This may alleviate your kite addiction.

eHar-Romney

"fall in love with someone...or with Bain Capital":o

Last time I voted (the only time in fact) I voted for the Green Party. Green as is weed, not ecological :D

I'm pretty convinced that unless it's a dictatorship (like Sam said) it's just a different face with the same ol' bull#@%$#! piling up behind it...

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Originally posted by indigo_wolf P.S. I like pumpkin pie.

I personally prefer pecan myself,...

How dare you cause such a row with your incendiary pie preferences! I am personally offended at your blatant pie preference discussion. The state of pie in this country is in no way something that we should be discussing here. Your pie self righteousness has sent me into a tissy and I refuse to comment further.

This is exactly what I didn't want to talk about...

Maybe we should just talk about the bible now... Or maybe twinkies?

I think there people on this forum espousing we eat some sort of degenerate and subversive pies. Everyone knows anything but apple is un-american.
S

Actually, we just finished off the apple pie and pumpkin is the next one to go into the oven.

Had pecan before the apple.

We're very pie-bi-partisan here.

ATB,
Sam

For Sam:





35,000 registered lobbyist w/immediate access to your congress too often control goverment's choices ..not any president and not the peoples vote on issues. When you get rid of them and our congress only meets with educated Harvard-sometimes pullitzer prize winning- professors or other leaders in economics, social systems and such and use their guidance, will real change ever happen. Otherwise electing a new president is like changing the paint on a #@%$#!ty car. Still gonna run like crap.

I vote for pie as a favorite desert!

Peach would be okay:


:singing::singing::singing::singing::singing:

Damn you Brian and that kitty video... I clicked and realized what it was, then I wanted to stop watching but I couldn't. I was stuck almost hypnotized to watch the whole thing... :embarrased:

Voices in my head say to kill you!! Cats are a bit demonic some times. Much like politicians.

..Because we hate to admit we were wrong.

so here's another term with the presidents..

I think the thread is a reflection on politics in general -- did you want A or B? Don't worry if you can't decide. They're the same, just different packaging. The majority response seems to be neither please -- and I'd haphazard a guess the rest of our fellow Americans feel quite similar.

That said, we don't vote for elected officials, we tend to vote against them. And for some reason there is this crazy notion of 'wasting' your vote if you vote for someone you actually want to win. Finally, we overemphasis the office of the president, which despite the increasing abuse of power given to the office, our elected statesmen is actually where we should be focused.. Indeed, your locally elected officials (city, county, state) will have greater impact on your life than the guy who sits in the chair in DC.

Well he is an entire branch of the Federal gubmint. The biggest implication with this election will be Supreme Court nominees.

Hey Americans can't make great pie's!!!!!!:bouncy::singing:
:roll::moon:

I wrote in Angus Campbell without his permission...

I second the nomination for Angus! Flyguy0101(Scott) small business is the backbone of America which big business nearly broke, we are now (I hope) precariously balanced on the rail. Lets hope that all the girations , twisting and arm flapping of the congress and senate don't cause more harm than good and we stay balanced on the rail and begin to move ahead.