| kateagle 
 
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 Hello all!! 
I need help picking out my first kite!! I've flown my trick kite around a good bit, not sure the specs but its a delta trick kite type, and can fly it
pretty excellently. I want to move on to power kites now and eventually move into boards. Being on a limited budget, I was hoping to find something
that would be good to learn on and fly static until I am comfortable moving on to boarding and can afford it.
 
I've been looking (obsessing, really, into the wee hours of the morning) into different kites - depower vs. FB, 2 line vs. 4 line, handles vs. bars,
sizes, etc. - and while I'm learning the basics I still feel rather overwhelmed.
 
The conditions I live in have low winds (5-15 mph, being on the lower side a majority of the time) BUT the beach is about 2 hours away and every now
and then we get a nice blustery day. I'm about 170 pounds. I can't find a source to help me size a kite appropriate to these conditions, but then
again being new to it all I'm not even sure the right search terms to use!!
 
All in all, I'm trying not to get too frustrated and/or stressed before I can get my hands on the real fun, but I'm very intent on researching
something new before I spend time, money, and effort into becoming (further) obsessed. Help please!     Peter Lynn Viper S 2.6m 
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 Buster Soulfly!  2.2 or maybe a 3.3  WELDNGOD on VIMEOhttps://vimeo.com/user2580342 
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PKD 
Combat 2.4 / 4.2 
Century  1.8 / 5.5 
Century II  2.2/2.8/3.5/4.5 /10.0 
Brooza IV 3.0 prototype  
Buster Soulfly 1.5 / 2.2 (KIA)/ 3.3 (lost at sea) 
Buster Soulfly PRO 3.3 / 4.4 
Buster (gen 1) 5.5 
FLEXIFOIL 
Sting 1.7 Punk 
Rage 2.5 / 3.5/ 4.7 
Revolution 1.5 SLE 
17 ply Custom TRAMPA w/ verTIGo trucks  
2 homebrew buggies,2 homebrew KYTBYKS,1 homebrew  tandem trailer    
GOPRO 3 WHITE, 3+ BLACK, HERO5 BLACK 
CONTOUR HD 
 LET YOUR SOULFLY!   
         
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  | Quote: |  | Originally posted by WELDNGOD Buster Soulfly!  2.2 or maybe a 3.3
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Buster Soulfly is a great kite. Also Peter Lynn Hornet, Viper S. Ozone Flow, HQ Beamer all great starter kites. Learn to fly a 4 line fixed bridal
before you move into depower. This will help you learn control a LOT better in my humble opinion. Keep it around 3m to start and go from there as your
skills progress.    US357PB: 53.1 mph
 
 
 
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 And when you get proper skills,the lil ones are just plain FUN to fly.  WELDNGOD on VIMEOhttps://vimeo.com/user2580342 
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Combat 2.4 / 4.2 
Century  1.8 / 5.5 
Century II  2.2/2.8/3.5/4.5 /10.0 
Brooza IV 3.0 prototype  
Buster Soulfly 1.5 / 2.2 (KIA)/ 3.3 (lost at sea) 
Buster Soulfly PRO 3.3 / 4.4 
Buster (gen 1) 5.5 
FLEXIFOIL 
Sting 1.7 Punk 
Rage 2.5 / 3.5/ 4.7 
Revolution 1.5 SLE 
17 ply Custom TRAMPA w/ verTIGo trucks  
2 homebrew buggies,2 homebrew KYTBYKS,1 homebrew  tandem trailer    
GOPRO 3 WHITE, 3+ BLACK, HERO5 BLACK 
CONTOUR HD 
 LET YOUR SOULFLY!   
         
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  | Quote: |  | Originally posted by WELDNGOD And when you get proper skills,the lil ones are just plain FUN to fly.
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+1!!!   You will never outgrow your trainer. When the wind picks up, your old trainer will have an ear to ear grin on your face. I still break mine
out in high winds    US357PB: 53.1 mph
 
 
 
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 My new favorite is the 2.4m Combat in orange!   I love to just static fly it. Very fast, but responsive ,very powerful at the same time.  
  My first kite was a 2.5 rage,and I still have it, in that bag of  "other foils".
 
  here is a link if ya want to check out a Buster. http://www.pkdkitesusa.com/products/Buster-Soulfly.html  WELDNGOD on VIMEOhttps://vimeo.com/user2580342 
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Combat 2.4 / 4.2 
Century  1.8 / 5.5 
Century II  2.2/2.8/3.5/4.5 /10.0 
Brooza IV 3.0 prototype  
Buster Soulfly 1.5 / 2.2 (KIA)/ 3.3 (lost at sea) 
Buster Soulfly PRO 3.3 / 4.4 
Buster (gen 1) 5.5 
FLEXIFOIL 
Sting 1.7 Punk 
Rage 2.5 / 3.5/ 4.7 
Revolution 1.5 SLE 
17 ply Custom TRAMPA w/ verTIGo trucks  
2 homebrew buggies,2 homebrew KYTBYKS,1 homebrew  tandem trailer    
GOPRO 3 WHITE, 3+ BLACK, HERO5 BLACK 
CONTOUR HD 
 LET YOUR SOULFLY!   
         
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 Check out www.coastalwindsports.com  for an excellent set of turorials that should really help . 
 
If money is tight you want to shop second hand. 
 
Now the bad news. We all have a number of kites for different conditions. You will have to accept this reality. NO single kite will do it all. 
 
As folks on here have suggested , you want to get started on about a 3m foil. 4 line is best. Don't get too stressed about what 3m kite as long as it
is a reputable make and model. Avoid impulse buying. Check on here before buying to confirm you are making a good purchases. 
 
If you are planning on heading to water down the road you will want / need a depower kite . Before that you need to get a 3m and master flying it.
Lessons are a huge advantage when hitting water.
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 Flysurfer : 19m Speed 2 SA, 7m Pulse
 Peter Lynn  :18m Phantom, 15m Synergy, 10m Synergy, 1200 Farc,  460 Sarc, 130 Tarc, 5m Peel, 4.2m , 6.4, 8.5 C-Quads, 3.5 LS2 single skin.
 
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  | Quote: |  | Originally posted by Bladerunner 
 
 Now the bad news. We all have a number of kites for different conditions. You will have to accept this reality. NO single kite will do it all.
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 COLD HARD FACT   This should be a sticky!
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NAPKA US187 
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Combat 2.4 / 4.2 
Century  1.8 / 5.5 
Century II  2.2/2.8/3.5/4.5 /10.0 
Brooza IV 3.0 prototype  
Buster Soulfly 1.5 / 2.2 (KIA)/ 3.3 (lost at sea) 
Buster Soulfly PRO 3.3 / 4.4 
Buster (gen 1) 5.5 
FLEXIFOIL 
Sting 1.7 Punk 
Rage 2.5 / 3.5/ 4.7 
Revolution 1.5 SLE 
17 ply Custom TRAMPA w/ verTIGo trucks  
2 homebrew buggies,2 homebrew KYTBYKS,1 homebrew  tandem trailer    
GOPRO 3 WHITE, 3+ BLACK, HERO5 BLACK 
CONTOUR HD 
 LET YOUR SOULFLY!   
         
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  | Quote: |  | Originally posted by WELDNGOD 
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 Now the bad news. We all have a number of kites for different conditions. You will have to accept this reality. NO single kite will do it all.
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 COLD HARD FACT
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 Cool, thanks for all the advice!! I will definitely check out those models and try and find one on here. I'm sure I'll end up getting a couple in the
near future once I graduate in ONE YEAR (so excited to be done!!!! :p ) but in the mean time I just wanna get started and get hooked, especially being
summertime since I couldn't take classes over the summer term. Just can't handle the boredom! 
Thanks again! If/when I find out a few more questions as I continue my quest for knowledge, I will post them! THANKS!!
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  | Quote: |  | Originally posted by dandre 
 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by WELDNGOD 
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 Now the bad news. We all have a number of kites for different conditions. You will have to accept this reality. NO single kite will do it all.
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 COLD HARD FACT
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 Unless you have hooj balls.. ;-)
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I get the joke here but am concerned that beginers desperate to convince themselves that they can do this with one kite may not ? 
 
You need more than one kite to learn this game .  
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 Flysurfer : 19m Speed 2 SA, 7m Pulse
 Peter Lynn  :18m Phantom, 15m Synergy, 10m Synergy, 1200 Farc,  460 Sarc, 130 Tarc, 5m Peel, 4.2m , 6.4, 8.5 C-Quads, 3.5 LS2 single skin.
 
 Rides:  Flexi / P.L. Frankin'Buggy , Shaped + straight skiis, sand skis, Coyote blades. Core 95 ATB. RKB R2 ATB .
 
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 PKD soulfly... just as good as any of the other beginner kites, and by far the best looking....  You're gonna be looking at it a lot while flying so
get it, eh? 
Seriously, any of the 2-3m 4-lines recommended above will do the trick.
 
Sounds like you have done your research, good on you!
 fixed bridles, flying static, been two years now...  ???   folks must be wondering....
 sting 1.7, dp power 2.5, crossfire 3.2, ace 5, blade iv 6.5, ace 8, ace 12...
 
 also a couple of arcs, 12 syn and 12 phanny, but i\'m not yet up to speed on them.
 
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 http://www.dakitez.com/servlet/the-734/Viper-S/Detail
Dakitez is having a sale on the Viper S by Peter Lynn you can get a complete kite with lines and handles, kite stake, for just over $200 brand new.  I
think that is a pretty killer deal, the 2.6 size should be perfect to start.
 NAPKRA: US32my bag:
 Ted's Profoil 1.5m
 HQ beamer 1.4m
 Ozone Samurai 2.0m
 JoJo RM+ 2.5m, 3m
 PL Vapor 3.8m
 PL Viper S 5.3m
 Ozone Frenzy 05 10m
 PKD Century 6.5m
 Libre Hardcore
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 Thanks everyone! 
So out of the Viper S 2.6, Reactor 3.8, Ozone Quattro 2.5, and Soulfly 2.2 or 3.3 which would be best for me? Those are the ones that I have found and
have the possibility of getting. Or something else entirely? I've got $200 and if I have to I can throw another $25 or $50, but I may be eating Raman
noodles for a week    Thanks again!
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 Given your budget, if you are looking to buy new you will never outgrow a Viper S.  Start out with a 2.6 as they have more pull than a lot of 3.5's I
know of.  My Viper S is my favorite all around kite as I find it to be responsive, powerful, and very stable.  I bought mine on sale from Dino
(DAKITEZ) and could not be more pleased.  The Viper S is an interesting kite in that it's newbie friendly yet still offers a higher level of
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 BTW, the Soulfly in 3.3 would also be very nice- really a bit of a toss-up.  With the Soulfly you'll get a bigger kite for the $, although I'd still
say the Viper S is a bit more performance oriented and higher quality construction for the long run.
 You can't go wrong with either of these two.  Hopefully someone else will also weigh-in with their opinion.  Like I said it's a close call and
personal choice, but me, I'd still give a slight edge to the Viper S.  Good luck!
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 You can't go wrong with any of the kites you list. For me, I would pass on the 3.8m. The others, because they are smaller, let you get out in higher
wind conditions and provide you with more flyable days. My 2 cents. 
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 Cool! Thanks! My funds posting to my account TODAY, so I'll be ordering in just a bit!! I'm so excited! Thanks everyone for the great help!! :D Peter Lynn Viper S 2.6m 
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 Which kite did you decide on? US357PB: 53.1 mph
 
 
 
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 Got the Viper S 2.6 from dakitez on Saturday. Taken it out twice today. The weather was gorgeous today with uncharacteristically higher winds (8-10
instead of 4-6) with only a few stronger gusts. It was FABULOUS! Peter Lynn Viper S 2.6m 
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