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[*] posted on 5-12-2006 at 08:35 AM
ok kite for a beginner?


Does anyone know if Globeriderkite 12 m2 from 2004 is a good kite for beginners. I`m thinking about buying one...
This is the kite for sale:
http://finn.no/finn/bap/object?finnkode=7480304&sid=11aC...
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[*] posted on 5-12-2006 at 09:29 AM


;) If what you say is true and you are a beginner, then you should read some of the post elsewhere on this forum concerning the purchase of a power / traction kite for the first time. But if your anything like I was in my youth; you won’t. In my youth I would have thought it was the best kite for a beginner.

In my youth I would have recomended that along with the kite you should purchase a seat harness and make sure to wear it the first time you fly your new kite. Don’t bother with the purchase of a helmet, elbow pads, kneepads, or any other possible items that might be considered a safety item. Cost too much and you wouldn’t be able to afford the kite.

I’d wouldn’t have waited for low winds either; I’d get at it regardless of the speed of the wind after all, how are you suppose to know how fast the winds are. If the trees are not bending over how bad could it be.

Then it’s off to a major parking lot with lots of traffic, near the edge of a cactus field that is under some high voltage wires leading to a nuclear plant.

Well I have experience now, I am older also and maybe wiser too, so when it comes to recommendations for your first kite; I am wrong about the previous sentence.

If you buy that kite, your first and maybe last flight should be nearer the parking lot of your local county hospital because it will not take long to get you into the emergency room. ;)




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[*] posted on 5-12-2006 at 12:52 PM


Define beginner, beginner to surf, first traction kite, how big are you , average winds, flying ability, what do you need the kite for.



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[*] posted on 5-12-2006 at 01:32 PM


Tigger, what you are actually saying is that with this kite I`ll end up damaging myslelf badly?!? Is it too powerful?
Pablo, I`m 185 tall and my weight is about 78 kg, so I`m tall and slim. And I`m really a beginner. Never been kiting before. Don`t know anything about winds and flying abilities. But I live on the south west coast of Norway with the best kiting eviroments in Norway. Beautiful, big and windy beaches. I don`t have any ambitions of becoming a master of fancy jumping. Just want the thrill of beeing able to manage the kite...:rolleyes:
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[*] posted on 5-12-2006 at 02:00 PM


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Tigger, what you are actually saying is that with this kite I`ll end up damaging myslelf badly?!? Is it too powerful?


and I was afraid of flying a 1.5M in 20mph winds...lol

trond, I'm a beginner also and just got into power kiting about 2 weeks ago... I have a 1.5m Ozone LD Stunt...

I took it out in 10mph winds to get started but I had absolutely no idea what to expect. I was very pleased at the amount of power it generated at that size and wind speed. The next day, I took it up in 15mph winds and really had my hands full since I was just beginning to figure out how to control it all...

Now, I'm 5'9, 205lbs and this thing was pulling me pretty hard...

I talked with my kite dealer in looking for something that would generate similar power but in lower speed winds... a 3m was recommended and I was told that even though I was only doubling the sail area, the power should increase 3 fold. That's pretty significant as far as I'm concerned and if I took the 3m up in 15mph winds, I'm pretty sure it would be more than I could or want to handle for now...

With a 12m, you are talking even more power, if that equation holds true...

I'm pretty sure that Tigger was being sarcastic but was totally correct in an interesting way...lol

From a beginner to another beginner, I would probably pass on a 12m and look at a 3 or 5m to start with...

Just my 2 cents...
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[*] posted on 5-12-2006 at 02:53 PM


Ehh... are we talking kiting on wheels here?!? I`m starting to realize. Tigger was talking about parking lots, and considering the logo of this site, it looks like maybe I`m on the wrong forum... I`m planning on kiting on water (and on skis in the winter). I can imagine that you need A LOT less power to be dragged on wheels. On water I think 12 m2 is an average sized kite. Better try to find the right forum. But thanks anyway
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[*] posted on 5-12-2006 at 10:31 PM


on water a 12m is a perfectly normal size, but learning on a 12m is like saying your going to learn to drive in a f1 cart. The problem is that the large kite your looking at can and will pick you up 10 ft and carry you 20ft away before slamming you back into the ground at a powerful rate if you make a stupid mistake with it in the wrong wind, probably getting someone's favorite flying spot banned in the process.

The fact that your not even open to looking into smaller kites tells me that you probably want to look into lessons as well. or buy yourself a 2-3m trainer.




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[*] posted on 5-13-2006 at 12:43 AM


:saint:I am sorry Trond if you have taken me the wrong way; I am a bit of a smart ass and tend to respond to questions with a bit of tongue in cheek. I know and I realized that you asked the question for a reason. But you have to remember, in this or any forum, the question is yours the answers are ours. Relax, take a pill, enjoy, have fun with it. You may learn a thing or two in the process.

Although I as well as everyone else that post here want you to take our sport very seriously, you should not necessarily take any of us to seriously except when it comes to Safety. The number one thing to remember is Safety the number two, three, four, five, etc. is fun. If you only think of the fun part your going to get hurt and that is not fun. As you look around on this site, the answer to almost any questions can and often will be answered. Sometime (hell, most of the time) they will be tongue in cheek answers.

It does not matter what you hit, earth, water or snow (which is water on earth mixed) when you do something incorrect (and you will), you are going to get hurt with a kite that size even with experience. There are many variables to think about, when deciding which kite to buy and or fly on any particular day. You can find them all here somewhere, some are: Wind speeds, experience, kite sizes, experience, surface, experience and last but not least, experience.:spin:




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[*] posted on 5-13-2006 at 01:04 AM


>are we talking kiting on wheels here?

Trond, this forum is for all things related to power kites and kite traction sports....wheels or no wheels. In fact, if your questions are specific to kite surfing, you may try posting in the "Surf Kites and Accessories (water)"  or "Kite Surfing" sections. We also have categories for Kite ATB and Snowkiting. Make use of our many categories to receive specific responses. That in mind, I'm moving this thread to the surf kites forum. Enjoy!




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[*] posted on 5-13-2006 at 03:29 AM


You don`t have to be sorry, Tigger (even though I felt a bit stupid when I read your awnser...) I think this conversation ended up conserning only size, and not the original question of brand: "Globeriderkite". Is it a good brand, is it well known, is it possible to get spear parts, etc? (It would be nice to know because I found one quite cheap.) But of course size is essential, and Pablo; I`m not locked into 12m size, and I am going to take lessons sometime now this month. Probably the lessons will be with smaller kites, and I will continue searching the second hand marked, and I don`t know wich brand or size I`ll end up with. But once again: Thank you all for taking time to share your wisdom and experience. (If Norway was more flat, I`d love to try to kite with wheels...) :cool2:
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[*] posted on 5-13-2006 at 11:47 AM


Maybe you can start a new sport.

The trip up the hill would really suck, but the ride down can be rather exciting. Cheaper also, don't need a kite.




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[*] posted on 5-14-2006 at 01:04 AM


Sorry to seem like we're jumping down your throat, it's just that most of us have seen guys get #@%$#!y and way in over their heads, Some of us have seen some pretty bad spills as well. The main thing is to kite safe and have many days of enjoyment.

If you take lessons, they'll get you past the small kite phase, if you wanna save some $$$ get a small surf trainer and learn to fly it, preferrably away from people exept experienced fliers. then you'll spend less time in your lessons with a small trainer and more time learning to surf. Cheaper in the long run.

As for the particular kite brand, no clue.




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