Ed Crabbs
 
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is snow buggying worth the extra cost of skies an mounts i know to each his own  Ive watched only one vid, where there was speed  the rest of the vids
seem to be just barley moving Lake Mushamush was the vid where speed an a lot of fun were present I have found the sites where the skies from snow
mobils are but the cost are quiet high I would like to have future input  other than being brutily cold it looks like fun It  snows here 3 to 4 times
a year  we have huge areas of farm ground that could used an Kansas is known for wind many fields are a square mile:wee::wee: 
 
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wheresthewind?
 
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i have buggied in light snow 1-3 inches and its good fun slippin and slidin all over Gods earth--any more than that, and it aint worth the
trouble.....for even more excitement, try a nice wet,muddy field,wear some old clothes and remove the mud flaps from your buggy---sure, no one will
recognize you or let you indoors, but the amazing time you have will be worth it...... 
BTW--i have skis, but i dont use them in snow, only for the frozen lake..... 
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If your in the mood to build ,check the gallery under skiing/snowboarding ,snowspider kitesled. Fully tested over hill and dale , commonly reaches ram
bang crash speeds over 30mph , top recorded speed 47.8 mph (+or- .055) on relatively smooth ice.  First versions were built out of wood and work
nearly as well as the current all metal version. 
2.6 , 3.9 , 5.3 , 6.8 PL Vipers  
5 , 7.5 HQ Apex II 
14m HQ Montana VII 
5m naish element 
7m ss turbo diesel 
10m pansh blaze 
 
5m beamer dearly departed into a tree 
3 "snowspider"  homebuilt kite sleds 
3 homebuilt buggies 
1 skate board with seat on wheels or blades (the c0ckroach) 
 
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bobalooie57
 
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Or you can just try your buggy as is, with wheels.  If there is enough crust on the snow, you can 'grab' enough edge to go upwind.  I posted some pics
of me in my PL Std on Chaumont bay in upstate NY, in this thread.   http://www.powerkiteforum.com/viewthread.php?tid=12644&p...
Team MEAN GREEN 
 
Bob Lussier 
 
OUTLAW KITER 
1.4M Beamer III, 2M Beamer IV,2M
Toxic HQ , 7.5MApex III,  HQ, Quadrifoil XXXL (9.66M), NPW5  2.4,4.8m,
NPW9 3.4M(HQ),NPW9 7M (RASTA\'S FURY),
NPW9 7.6M (BIG SISTAH),NPW9 12MGREENMONSTER(km4), P L Comp ST buggy,PL Bigfoot+
buggy, Atomic Alibi Snowboard, Protec Knee/Elbow Pads & Helmet, Seirus wristguards, Demon crash shorts, LaCross chest/shoulder pads. 
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markite
 
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It is so condition dependent. We have a few guys that built using the snowmobile skins and yes the build gets pricey and they work good in some
conditions. We get all kinds of variety and blades are awesome but not often that we get clean smooth ice. Then as you get into rough ice the blade
still works better holding and edge but you are chattering on a washboard and that's hard on gear and edges and joints etc. Then a mix of snow and ice
you need the ski with an edge (like the carbides on a snowmobile ski) or ski edge to hold the steering line. And you will find it's a speed up
slow/down process going from ice to snow patches - and that changes depending on temperatures and if the snow is hard pack or dry etc. Then as soon as
it's deeper snow or anything a bit mild and the skis can start to bog down. If it is slightly mild so you have packing snow then it's a bugger to go
anywhere at all unless you have width like a snowboard and even that can bog down if it's damp snow. 
You need good ski or blade alignment otherwise you'll just feel drag, you need a way to edge when powered otherwise you'll just slide etc (which is
still fun).
 
So overall it's what conditions you think you'll be using it the most on that will help you decide on what to use. If you can get out where the snow
has been packed down and frozen again then skis are great and fast. If you have clean ice - blades rule. 
(but you need to scope out your route in advance to look for pressure cracks)  
Mark Groshens   NAPKA KC 13 
WindSpeed kites & design - Canada 
Peter Lynn Arcs: Charger2 22.5 +18 + 15 + 6.5, Charger I 6, Scorpion 16 + 10,  Phantom II 12 + 9, Orig Phantom 9 + 6, Synergy 10 + 8, F 1200, S 840 
Ocean Rodeo: Flite 17 + 12, Rise 13 + 10 + 7, Razor 9 + 6 
Foils: PL Leopards and Lynx, Airea Raptors, some PL Reactor IIs + IIIs, Libre Spirits, Cross Kite Sonics, Ozone Flow 
Peter Lynn Kite Cat for cruising the lakes 
buggies: PL XR+, Cameleon Pagona, custom bigfoot, PL Bigfoot, custom ice buggy 
Boards: 2 custom directionals, O.R Surf series 6-3 and 5-11, Mako Duke, Mako Skinny, Mako 140 Wide, Mako 150 Wide, Mako King, Brunotti 
lots of old school skis, snowboard 
 
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bobalooie57
 
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Wicked example of the photographer being in just the right place at the right time!  I hope the buggier was O.K.! 
Team MEAN GREEN 
 
Bob Lussier 
 
OUTLAW KITER 
1.4M Beamer III, 2M Beamer IV,2M
Toxic HQ , 7.5MApex III,  HQ, Quadrifoil XXXL (9.66M), NPW5  2.4,4.8m,
NPW9 3.4M(HQ),NPW9 7M (RASTA\'S FURY),
NPW9 7.6M (BIG SISTAH),NPW9 12MGREENMONSTER(km4), P L Comp ST buggy,PL Bigfoot+
buggy, Atomic Alibi Snowboard, Protec Knee/Elbow Pads & Helmet, Seirus wristguards, Demon crash shorts, LaCross chest/shoulder pads. 
(tryin\' to be safe!) 
 
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markite
 
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that was a frame I captured off of Ozzy's famous catapult video from last winter.... time to find that post again .... 
I think this was it:
 http://vimeo.com/17496413
check at 1 minute into it - Ozzy is a big boy as well so check the distance and full points for style in the air.
 Mark Groshens   NAPKA KC 13 
WindSpeed kites & design - Canada 
Peter Lynn Arcs: Charger2 22.5 +18 + 15 + 6.5, Charger I 6, Scorpion 16 + 10,  Phantom II 12 + 9, Orig Phantom 9 + 6, Synergy 10 + 8, F 1200, S 840 
Ocean Rodeo: Flite 17 + 12, Rise 13 + 10 + 7, Razor 9 + 6 
Foils: PL Leopards and Lynx, Airea Raptors, some PL Reactor IIs + IIIs, Libre Spirits, Cross Kite Sonics, Ozone Flow 
Peter Lynn Kite Cat for cruising the lakes 
buggies: PL XR+, Cameleon Pagona, custom bigfoot, PL Bigfoot, custom ice buggy 
Boards: 2 custom directionals, O.R Surf series 6-3 and 5-11, Mako Duke, Mako Skinny, Mako 140 Wide, Mako 150 Wide, Mako King, Brunotti 
lots of old school skis, snowboard 
 
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There is a video of this OBE. I think it is one of the Dutchies. He was OK. Ice is hard but the reduced friction is kind of nice. 
Todd...  NAPKA US59  \"Have you taught a kid to fly lately?\" 
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PL 19m, 16m Venom | 10m, 13m Venom II | 17m Vortex | 2.6m Viper | 2.3m Vapor | 6m, 9m, 15m Phantom | 22m Guerilla 
Flysurfer 8m, 12m DLX Unity |8m Outlaw| 19m Speed 2.5 SA | 2.5m, 6m Viron 
Action Vortex 6.6m Foil (FOR SALE) | Mac Bego 600 
Flexifoil 1.2m, 2.4m Sting | 6.6m Blade III 
The Original Flexifoil and Hawaiian Team Kite 
Snow: Volant Alpine Skis | SnowBlades | PL Ice Buggy | PL KiteSled Land: Coyote Skates | Ivanpah Buggy 
Water: Peter Lynn KiteCat 
 
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pyro22487
 
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at eddie* 
im thinking snowkiting with a snowboard. i have 2 boards if you fit one you can borrow it when i come up there this winter. 
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the video was awesome.
 go fly a kite trainer 1.4 m 
thunderfoil 9 ft. 
Flexi sting 1.7m 
Ozone flow 2.0 m  
PL Vapor 3.2 m 
Ozone Flow 5 m 
PLVapor 6.5 m 
frenzy 14.0 m 
 
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Guys the video of Ozzy "FLYING" is very impressive!! Check it out.  
 As for snow buggying, Give it a shot. Or used skiis. Or like Pat said check out his sight for his Snowspider rig.
 NAPKA # US65 
HQ ApexII 7.5 
Skydog/ SDT2.8, SDT4.0, SDT5.5, SDF3.0 
  
Pansh Ace 5.0 X2 
North Husky 6.0 
PL Guerilla 13, 18 
PL C-Quad 2.3, 3.2, 4.2 
Home made Rat Buggy 
Libre V Max on barrow Plus wider taller sand tires & bigfoot front end 
Blades Of Death, \"thanks Fran\" 
 
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MikeDobbs
 
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Wow- just watched the video and that OBE at 1 minute was EPIC!:  eekdrull: 
We understand all that is not mathematics through the world, but we understand the world through mathematics 
15m PL Phantom    
10m and 14m Griffin Argonaut (LEI - kiteboarding) 
7m HQ Montana V 
7m Flexifoil Bullet 
PL Arc630 
3m Ozone Flow 
2.5m Ozone Imp 
HQ Rush 250Pro
 
Check out my Kiting and Math Rap Videos at:   http://www.youtube.com/user/MikeDobbs76?feature=mhee 
 
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I got ski for snow, and for ice ski with carbide insert (like snowmobile front ski). It will be my first winter buggying. 
IKO certified °°°°° snow°°°°°. 
ConceptAir Bull 3.4mē depower 
Flying Wing SilverFox 2.5 
Handmade buggy SS / bigfoot wheel /std wheel / ski for snow & ice 
Jest Of Eve Talon UL 
Level one Genesis STD 
Mystic battle belt seat harness + a waist one from Mystic. 
Ozone Flow 2mē, Access 6mē, Frenzy 9mē  
Pansh black&red 4mē / handle Ozone 
HQ invento FazerXXL šSpeedš 
 
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