does anybody know if we are going to have that npw`s on handles race???? i know we were talking about it but is it going to go off. i`m not one for racing. but npw`s on handles is one race i wouldn`t mind doing. also i would like to use short lines. i made up a set of 5ft lines and they worked great at dbbb. i don`t have to worry about running over the npw with my back wheel.

YES!!! I for one think it would be a blast a a great view for the spectaors.I think we do need to set a limit on lines though to make it a tighter race.How about 10 ft max? any opinions. I know susan is on the road but plans on it. Let me know....................aj

:singing:IT IS A GO!!!


Have no fear, it's locked in, you guys are gonna get it, and KiteShip may enter as well!!!


aoxomoxoa

Looked at the picture in your post AJ. So will this be a team event... one to hold up the npw while the other buggies? :singing:

Sorry my dancing partner and fashion model (Big John) will not be there> But we could have a npw fashion show. Great idea dave! We will have you model evening wear...............aj

OK! Let me go dust off my Pink Slip! rotflmao

whos that good looking guy in the hat?????:singing:

I CANT WAIT TO SEE THAT ONE

FLYIN HIGH
SHANNON......STILL COUNTING DOWN

Gonna purchase some new line for my Sky Tigers and plan on cutting the old ones into shorter ones to be used with my NPW5 LK 300 6.9m. I've never tried it before, is there a trick to get them all the same length? What is the best length to fly a LK 300 6.9m?

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Originally posted by Tigger Gonna purchase some new line for my Sky Tigers and plan on cutting the old ones into shorter ones to be used with my NPW5 LK 300 6.9m. I've never tried it before, is there a trick to get them all the same length? What is the best length to fly a LK 300 6.9m?

Thats a good question! I like to fly them with no lines but here is a chart for use and lines.

40m lines -5-12mph
30m line 7-14mph
20m lines 9-16mph
10m lines 11-18mph
no lines just off bridles-13-25+mph

it depends on your skills also so please factor that in

also if you use a harness, recommended if you are comfortable with your abilities

............................aj

Thanks for the data on different lengths. Entered the data into my info file. 've been all over the internet, can't find short lines to buy, gotta cut the old ones, any idea as to how to get them (set of 4) to the same length?

Larks-head one end to a fixxed object(all 4 lines together) and then stretch to deesired lenght and cut.Then retye or wait till nabx and i will show ya....................aj

hey tigger
yea. just bring your old line sets with you and i can help you too.
don`t forget. your going to need some kind of sleeving needle and sleeving.
just about everybody whos buggys makes their own line sets.
most store bought line sets come 300lb over 200lb.
i like 300lb over 150lb. i find the 200lb brake line puts to much drag on the kite.
feel free to pick my brainout there with any questions you might have about buggying.

You will find no shortage of advice and opinions, and maybe even some good ones We are a bunch of excited kids who love to talk about the wind and all we can do with it. ANd we love to share and show off our toys. In other words, any questions you may have will be eagerly answered by just about anyone on the lake.

CANNOT WAIT!!

Sean

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Originally posted by Tigger Thanks for the data on different lengths. Entered the data into my info file. 've been all over the internet, can't find short lines to buy, gotta cut the old ones, any idea as to how to get them (set of 4) to the same length?

What I do...

I use a dulled, polished smooth darning needle to run the line back onto itself, like sewing. This has two advantages: 1) Much stronger than sleeving and knotting. The first time I kitesurfed was on 200lb line with loops made this way. 2) The lines can easily be adjusted to be the same length. Simply slide the line through until the lines are the same. The size of the loop determines how much adjustability you have.

For added durability on the loop a length of sleeving can be used, but just as a covering to the loop, where a larks head knot would be made.

This picture is of 500lb spectra, with the needle used to do this.

Steve

Geokite,
Doesnt it slip back through when under tension? Do you need to take care not to split each side of the braid, or can you just shove the needle through anywhere? I have heard that splicing is best, but dont try splicing the tiny fibers on kite lines! Also, sleeving and sewing seem pretty popular lately, but I really like your idea!! Quick and easy!!

Sean

Gotta a million question as to how my new toys work, I'm sure I'll get a million answers to them at the playa. I am really looking forward to meeting everyone involved in myne new hobby.

Gonna spend most of 5 days on the playa, if I get a chance to get away from my voluntary commitment (Registration) for a few minutes, I may even learn how to buggy.

A more elegant way to create loops without knots is to splice them as shown HERE. They aren't adjustable, but will not slip. I can do 90lb lines with some difficulty - 200lb line should be childs play. The trick is getting the splicing wire or latch hook through the hollow braid.





PCH

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Originally posted by CHANNIN75 I CANT WAIT TO SEE THAT ONE

Ok, here ya go... Code Pink :singing:

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Originally posted by jonesing4wind Geokite, Doesnt it slip back through when under tension? Do you need to take care not to split each side of the braid, or can you just shove the needle through anywhere? I have heard that splicing is best, but dont try splicing the tiny fibers on kite lines! Also, sleeving and sewing seem pretty popular lately, but I really like your idea!! Quick and easy!! Sean

No, it doesn't slip. The tension in the line pinches the threaded line, holding it in place. I thread the needle right through the center of the line, just being carefull to not break any fibers (that's why a polished smooth blunt needle is important. Sharp needles will break fibers. I use a hand lense to examine the needle head when preparing the needle). Is this quick? Certainly not quicker than sleeving, but in the long run it is better. I used to splice (with a splicing tool), but found this to be much easier.

I run the line back through the line about 20-30 times. I've never tested smaller "threads", and never had it slip through.

Steve

is that going to fly w/t out bridles?.........aj:barf::barf:

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Originally posted by mecdave Quote: Originally posted by CHANNIN75 I CANT WAIT TO SEE THAT ONE Ok, here ya go... Code Pink :singing:

Hi all I made it to California. Count me in on the nasa wing races. Counting the days. I was able to see Elmers from afar the other day driving to spend time with my brother. Starting to get excited.

Susan

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Originally posted by kitemaker4 Hi all I made it to California. Count me in on the nasa wing races. Counting the days. I was able to see Elmers from afar the other day driving to spend time with my brother. Starting to get excited. Susan

Hey Susan, glad to see you made it ok. See ya soon!

You can count me in on the NPW race for sure.

The Lama will be delivering my Brand Spanking new NPW200 to the Playa.

Anyone wanna take a bet on beginners luck?

Counting the days. My father in-laws Truck & Trailer was just delivered today.

Ciao for now!!!

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Originally posted by mecdave Quote: Originally posted by CHANNIN75 I CANT WAIT TO SEE THAT ONE Ok, here ya go... Code Pink :singing:

OK AND THE EVENING WEAR AWARD GOES TO.......TEE HEE......YOU LOOKED SO CUTE

SHANNON

SUSAN GLAD YOU MADE IT OK......SEE YOU THERE
SHANNON:singing::singing::singing:

Yelp I am glad I made the three day drive with no problems. I do want to be sure and meet you. There are not that many women that buggy and we need to stick together. Looking forward to meeting you.

See ya.
Susan

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Originally posted by kitemaker4 Yelp I am glad I made the three day drive with no problems. I do want to be sure and meet you. There are not that many women that buggy and we need to stick together. Looking forward to meeting you. See ya. Susan

I also cant wait to meet you Susan.....and I know what you mean about there not being a whole lot of women into flying....but there lost is our gain......just make sure all of you get to the Playa safe.....

:singing::singing:
Flyin High
Shannon

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Originally posted by kitemaker4 Yelp I am glad I made the three day drive with no problems. I do want to be sure and meet you. There are not that many women that buggy and we need to stick together. Looking forward to meeting you. See ya. Susan

Hmmmm... women who buggy, "sticking together". Okay, boys, I think we got the script for movie night!