So I'm thinking of shaking up my quiver. I love my eskimo and my access but just don't connect with my Pulse II and I'm thinking of replacing that with either a 6m Gin Yeti or a 7m Montana / Frenzy.

The Pulse sits perfectly below my 10m but I'm not sure if the Yeti will or if it will leave a gap and based on their very limited distribution I'm not going to be able to fly before I buy.

So that has me thinking of a 7m Montana but I'm wondering if that will leave a gap between my 4m Access and if I would be best served with a:
10m Eskimo, 7m Montana / Frenzy, 5m Apex quiver
or a
10m Eskimo, 6m Yeti, 4m Access quiver.

I'm assuming a 10m Eskimo / Montana / Frenzy are similarly powered so my big question is... are any of you riding a 10 / 7 / 5 combo in depowers or can anyone comment on the range of say a 10m / 7m Montana / Frenzy combo and how a 4m Access or 5m Apex would sit below that.

Looking for the best combo with minimal overlap and no gaps.

Thoughts?

I know this is not exactly the comparison you are looking for but I had the 10 / 7 / 5m quiver of the apex 2's . I feel I would have been much better equipped if I had a 12 / 7 / 4 combo.

from the 7.5m to the 10m was not enough difference to get me powered in the lighter winds. It came down to on the lower wind range I could use the 7m and 10m in the same winds, but obviously I had more speed with the 10 than the 7m in lower winds.

That's why I like the idea of another 6m higher A/R kite. My concern is that a 7m Montana would be too close to my 10m but I have found a 6m Access leaves a small gap between where it is flyable and my 10m Eskimo is too much. Wish Gin had a greater presence in the market so I could figure out more easily if there 6 is a good compliment to their 10.

are you off loading the P2?

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Originally posted by tridude are you off loading the P2?

If I can find a suitable replacement. I'm not going on the water so I don't need a closed cell foil and I don't want to replace it with an Access. So my quandry is to find a kite with a similar range at an affordable price.

Honestly, it's going to be interesting with the unity coming out. Very interested to see the AR on it and how it will replace the pulse2/psycho4.

Why didn't you get along with the p2?

If the unity turns out to be what I am looking before, I may have my 7 frenzy to sell ya!

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Originally posted by chudalicious Why didn't you get along with the p2?

As some here and in Nahant know, I have a love / hate relationship with that kite. I absolutely love it in its low - mid range but don't get along with it in the mid - upper range.

I favor slower turning, more grunty kites and in the low range of the Pulse you can really use its speed and fly it aggressively to get the most out of it. In its mid to upper range its too fast for me.

if you ever decide to part with the begos--shoot me a u2u--i'll buy em in a heartbeat........

The begos hold a dear spot in my heart. The 600 is my low wind weapon of choice and isn't going anywhere. The 400 is just a sweet kite for static flying and riding. Neither are for sale at the moment but thanks for the interest.

i dont blame ya--i feel the same way.....

My quiver is a mess but it works!

Which is why I still love my Fixed bridles - they have such a big range of handling characteristics compared with depowers.

If its Gusty 15 - 20+ i use my venom, if its clean 12 - 20 i use my Twister.

I am borrowing a friends 9m frenzy a lot at the moment which is a good compramise between the float and stability of the Venom and the speed of the Twister. Not flown it above 18mph so far though...

in 25+ i'm relying on my rage and bullet for boarding. The venom is manageable in 30 (just) but it doesn't react quick enough.

In low winds I use my Blade because it will generate pull out of nothing although it has a scary habit of stalling and then powering up again at awkward moments!!

B,

Apex pilots have nothing but good things to say about them. The 7.5 Apex may overlap some on your 10m but thats just a guesstimate. When you decide to off load the P2 please contact me........Ill take it!

I have the 4m Access, the 5 & 7.5m Apex II. I find there is more overlap between the 5 and 7.5 than the 4m. The 4m works for me in the buggy from about 18 knots to 30+. The 5m Apex from 13-20. The 7.5m from 8-18 knots. If I was buying them again, I would still go for the 4m Access, the 5m Apex (or 6m Access) then step up to a 9.5/10m. Alternatively, the 4m Access, 7m Montana then something like the 12.5m Montana or 11m Frenzy.