picked this up second hand and it's in a mess line wise. Anybody got a link how to set it up and why are those lines so thick?

Thanks
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Not sure if this'll help:



Got it from selecting the kite in the dropdown menu here:
FS Website

I know that the lengths are all published somewhere. I'll keep digging around.

nice one Mac, perfect on the line set up. The thick lines you speak of green? If so that is the mixer spare parts lines. The risers to the kites arent thick at all. Best thing to do with a Speed/Speed 2 is lay out the lines, mixer, risers (bridals) and tug, pull, and untwist (repeating) until it all comes out. If you cant get it send it to me and Ill fix it for you, check/trim your mixer and of course a quick test flight!!

I think that might be a good plan, where about are you dude, there is what i can only describe as a rope(black down the middle. I am lost in this de power world. Had to take the lines off as the rest was so twisted. Took of two silver connectors?

Cheers for the help, I don't think i have the faith to put this mess back together again

Cheers
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Originally posted by tridude nice one Mac, perfect on the line set up. The thick lines you speak of green? If so that is the mixer spare parts lines. The risers to the kites arent thick at all. Best thing to do with a Speed/Speed 2 is lay out the lines, mixer, risers (bridals) and tug, pull, and untwist (repeating) until it all comes out. If you cant get it send it to me and Ill fix it for you, check/trim your mixer and of course a quick test flight!!

US.........South Carolina

thats a great kite and needs to be restored quickly...............

anyone in Canada?

Check with Paul - PBKiteboarding or with Mike here in Edmonton (Flysurfer Rep). Check your U2U.

:o yikes, that's not a good way to be introduced to a FS!


Sounds like this is your first FS kite. Getting someone experienced to help is probably your best bet. Depending on the cause of the mess, it could be a real hassle to fix. Plus, if you get someone to help, they'll probably be able to run a mixer test to make sure the kite flies well.

Sounds like this guy who sold you the kite left you in quite a pickle. For yourself, proper packing is a solid step towards avoiding line tangles. See this video if you haven't already.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EmJb5XdUpI

Even with proper packing, the bridle can seem tangled. Just tug gently and shake a bit like tridude says. Usually it comes out just fine. The odd occasion finds something actually actually tangled. Usually a bridle line has kinked, and other lines have wrapped around it. The key is finding that kinked line, and pulling it through the wrapped lines. It usually doesn't take a long time to fix this as long as your patient and not forcing things.

If your kite was packed properly, then it should be one of the 2 things above (ie, either looks bad and is actually not, or it looks bad and there is a minor problem). There is the case of the bow-tied kite, but I'll U2U for that. Too much for this post.

I took all the lines off, the bar had gone through the bridles and was a big mess. Maybe that was the reason I got it so cheap. I packed it all up and it's been shoved in a dark corner of the garage....fixed bridles are way less hassle and until someone can prove me wrong, it stays in the garage or maybe Ebay! I have no clue of all the trim adjusters, safety's, silver line connectors etc so I would rather leave it alone. Lack of knowledge kills/hurts people. Was looking forward to flying it but until that day comes, de power suck!

Kitedelight, you seem to be local, I could post it to you if you could find the time to set it up, trim it and makes sure everything is in good,safe order

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Originally posted by kiteboyza I took all the lines off

whoops.... thats gonna cost you... flysurfers come pretty much setup and ready to rock.... i had a speed that got tangled up pretty bad the first time i ever flew it... the bar and lines intact would have been easier to untangle, believe it or not...

it is going to take a lot of time and patience to get that stuff back in order... if its the birdsnest you make it sound like, it could take a 2 or 3 hours... those flysurfers have incredibly complex bridles...

i know the headache that they can be... awesome kites, though, for sure... i will be getting back into them soon enough

This kite will be in the ''For Sale" section soon as I take pictures of it.....the above post just help make that decision easier :singing:

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Originally posted by kiteboyza This kite will be in the ''For Sale" section soon as I take pictures of it.....the above post just help make that decision easier :singing:

call(send) it to Powerzone. you won't regret it. His rates are very reasonable and he'll have it together (repaired if need be) and set/tuned for you and intended purpose.

depowers aren't easier to get tangled lines than are FBs. depends on how you pack them up same as FBs.
actually i'd say it's harder to get a depower's lines all messed up because all flight lines are on one bar. sometimes the bridles do look like a heap of tangles (as do FB bridles) but a couple/few gentle tugs clears the tangle (as same with FB in my experience).

as a matter of fact i've spend heaps more time untangling FB lines than depower lines. i have my own system of packing FB away and if someone else "helps" pack a FB of mine there's a 50/50 chance i'll have a twisted mess the next time i unpack as i may not unwrapp the lines in exact opposite order of wrapping up.
depwers rock too!!!
i use(d) my Pulse2 12m a whole lot for buggying(and skiing) in all types of wind and terrain/tight quarters.
i guess stropped in with FB is OK too but depower is more carefree.

If you decide to sell shoot me a U2U.............................send it as is Ill have it together in no time, flying like a champ.....................next time remember the tug and pull method............Ive got room for a 10m S2 in the quiv..................

Like the others on here, I would suggest hooking up with an experienced user in your area. Before you go and dump the kite, have someone with the skills and knowledge get it all straightened out. Getting it looked after on this side of the border would be your best bet; however, if you don't mind the wait time, powerzone really knows his stuff related to well it seems all things kitey. His prices are real reasonable and offers fast reliable service. Before you pull the plug see if you can find someone out here to help you out if not send it down south to Powerzone and you'll be able to get that thing in the air before you know it.

As with getting to know depowers, if we ever get the chance to meet up in the future, you are more than welcome to give any of my kites a go. You would be up and flying in no time at all. A different feeling than fixed bridle,but not that bad at all. If not I'm sure that there are others close by that would be more than happy to help you out.

Good Luck

edit: I'm slow at typing, it looks like revpaul and tridude beat me to it.

i agree, this kite is worth going the extra mile getting it set up right. Send it to powerzone, ask him to tune it up for you. If you got it as cheap as you say you did, then don't worry.

I know what you mean about the bridals, i just got a FS, first thing i did was setup, stake, and studied the bridals for about an hour.

make sure you keep that kite man, you wont regret it.

nah he's ready to sell.........................

offers?

how do I find Powerzone?

ill trade you a sprint 5, and some change:eureka:

FS Canada is in your backyard

www.flysurfer.ca

ok so I open the kite out to take pictures and turn the sail, it says Psycho2 on it, my bad.....I will try and upload pictures in a sec

link to the rest of the pictures

http://img573.imageshack.us/g/dsc01273c.jpg/

what do you want for it?

wait a sec.... so this is a psycho 2, right?

that would explain why you got it cheap, not the being in a mess part

you will need a different line map than the one included above

line plan for 10m psycho2 from FS site...

whole new ballgame but same result..............................your lines/mixer didnt look too bad...............

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Originally posted by ripsessionkites FS Canada is in your backyard www.flysurfer.ca

i've talked to Mike about mods and stuff...his advice was "send it to Powerzone". He might be able to get the bridle straightened out though. It's worth a call.

Ive undone worse nests on the beach...................................fix it/fly it like you stole it......................

by the time I have payed the expensive postage, labour and return post it becomes an expensive kites. Also, this is a freestyle kite, i prefer to stay on the ground so therefore I will sell it as is, just need to figure out what its worth, maybe a swop...I could do with an Xbox for the no wind days...lol

you know ive been considering trading my Xbox 360, games, 2 controllers,hdmi cable, other cables for a kite. i think it still actually has a warranty.

*** just saw the photos you posted

***Let me think about it a little. I would prefer a speed.