rythem
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![[*]](./images/perspective/default_icon.gif) posted on 6-19-2010 at 10:11 AM |
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Keeping lines tight ( new landboarder)
i been flying a 4m ozone flow with handles for about 1 month now and have progressed very well. i now just got myself a scrubs landboard. im finding
getting moving easy its just keeping the lines tight im having trubble with i try to slightly edge away from the kite but i find its pulling me into
the kite all the time any tips?? also is their any patten i sould
move the kite in?
thanks
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dylanj423
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| posted on 6-19-2010 at 11:32 AM |
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you should be running a track perpindicular to the wind... sounds like you are trying to go straight downwind to me
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flyboy15
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| posted on 6-19-2010 at 12:28 PM |
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^^^^^^^ confirm above.
A big misunderstanding about kiting is that we don't ride with the wind but instead operate exactly like sailboats. We tack upwind, and cut
downwind. Moving directly downwind takes some extra maneuvering. Try riding perpendicular to the wind like dylan said and see how that works. You
can get more speed that way too. (15 knot wind can = 20-30kt groundspeed vs 15 knot downwind cannot make more than 5-10 knot downwind).
If you think about it to it makes sense. if you are going directly downwind at 10 mph and the windspeed is 20mph, you will only have 10 mph of wind
going over the kite because you've cancelled 10mph by moving WITH the wind.
Therefore the fastest speeds are achieved moving at roughly perpendicular to the wind...
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| posted on 6-19-2010 at 02:12 PM |
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Sometimes pointing the board slightly downwind allows you to accelerate more quickly than starting out at 90 degrees to the wind and it seems that
with a little speed it is easier to start cutting up wind to achieve that perpendicular line. For me I feel it takes some of the risk out of getting
completely yanked on my arse when I put 'er into the power zone from a dead stop.
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| posted on 6-19-2010 at 07:23 PM |
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^^^ above also confirmed lol. Yea I do the same. On the landboard and snowboard I do a little downwind cut for a second or two when i first bring
the kite from zenith through the window. Helps soften the sudden lift as well as gives some time to get your balance back a little. Then after that
first initial pull I hike it back to perpendicular and put more bodyweight in the harness... Good call on Thanson
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| posted on 6-19-2010 at 09:05 PM |
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Gusty winds
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| posted on 6-20-2010 at 06:22 AM |
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Check out Bernoulli principal that will explain it.
The principle also makes it possible for sail-powered craft to travel faster than the wind that propels them (if friction can be sufficiently
reduced). If the wind passing in front of the sail is fast enough to experience a significant reduction in pressure, the sail is pulled forward, in
addition to being pushed from behind. Although boats in water must contend with the friction of the water along the hull, ice sailing and land sailing
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| posted on 6-20-2010 at 09:09 AM |
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First WELCOME to the best forum on the net.
HERE is a good tutorial explaining it much better than I
could. It is written for buggys but applies just the same to ATB. Have a good look at FIG. 9.
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rythem
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| posted on 6-20-2010 at 12:56 PM |
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Cheers for ya comments guys.
cheers willard that tutorials great realy helps thanks.
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rythem
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| posted on 6-26-2010 at 01:27 AM |
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im still having trubble keepin me goin. dus the kite have to be slightly in the way im goin in the wind window? so if i was goin left acrossed the
wind the kite would be slight the left side of the power zone? also when goin left/right and i point the kite in tht direction the kite is wantin to
travel to the edge of the window should i be goin up and down with the kite or figger of 8 ect???? its takin ages 4 me to get this right how long did
it take u????
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| posted on 6-26-2010 at 07:32 AM |
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I think you my be diving the kite too hard on the 1st attempt ? You just want to do a small quick dip pf the kite to get some momentum at 1st. Take
that motion , dive the kite harder the second time. On the second pump you may or may not have the right speed + power combo built up and may have to
repeat by sending it back up. Don't let the kite get low and upwind until you have the speed + power to park and ride.
Lean back against the power and transfer it it speed.
Keep Trying , it will click.
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| posted on 6-26-2010 at 10:38 AM |
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where are you located? it might help to get with somebody local and get some hands on advice
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rythem
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| posted on 6-26-2010 at 03:38 PM |
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I think im starting to get it i managed to go one way across the field today a cupple of times at a slow jogging pace. I live in ashford kent uk i
dont no of any1 tht dus it near me. I keep tryin
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