Ive been using a blade 3 4.9 now and mainly a rage 3.5 on my landboard, and feel its time to move onto depower. Ive been told the hq neo is a gud kite, wud u agree? Im 5'8" and weigh 11.5 stone, and i wud mainly be using the new kite for landboard and tricks/jumps, and with the possibility next year to use in the water, but may buy a water relauncable kite for this. Views and opinions please!! p.s. wot size shud i get too?

11.5 stone is about 150 lbs, right?? i would seriously consider a 12-15m arc.... great beginner kites.... i say that 'cause im a beginner.... water makes this stuff a lot harder, and every advantage you can get, you should get...

gotta go, the winds are blowin!


good luck

'Nother vote for an arc ... used one or a vortex...

But neos are rated intermediate-expert, if you want an hq id roll montana or apex

Neos are easy enough for first de-power for someone who has time on a Blade. They launch just like an open cell with a momentary pause for some pre-inflation. 11 m is a good size for cross-over use as long as you know that the wind range for water use will be higher. I would suggest adding a leash to the landing handle for high wind work in order to flag the kite and kill the power. The safety is effective at dropping the kite by stalling it, but still leaves it exposed to the wind to be a real drag (literally) in winds over 15 mph.

The Vortex is no longer available from PL unless you find a used one. Not great for land use though. Synergy is a better cross-over ARC

lol i stand corrected... disregard my msg then!

haha my bad, i didnt know thew took the vortex down, isnt it still on their site? I just suggested the vortex based on the info on the website, says its an entry level... but take Angus's word... he sells them... er sold them

Thanks for info guys, like i say it will probably be used just for landboarding, and when i eventually start water use i will end up getting a new water kite. Just wanted to make sure a neo is a gud kite and is worth the money, and that it will fulfill my need of air and tricks!!!

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Originally posted by Drewculous lol i stand corrected... disregard my msg then! haha my bad, i didnt know thew took the vortex down, isnt it still on their site? I just suggested the vortex based on the info on the website, says its an entry level... but take Angus's word... he sells them... er sold them

Hmmm yeah they are still posted but I'm pretty sure Marijn told me they were sold out.
The problem with the Vortex on land is a lot of side pull. OK on snow and water where you can edge but not so hot on wheels.

If your planning on getting a water specific kite (LEI), i would stick with a open cell foil (HQ montana, apex, Ozone access, frenzy). and get a water specific kite when you want to ventur into the water. Unless like most on this site and you have to fly a foil kite on water, then go for the neo.
Foils arnt great for learning to kiteboard/kitesurf, as they are a little more tricky to relaunch after crash, where the new LEIs almost relaunch them selfs.

By the way there are conversions for the blade to make it a depower.

I have just read up on the hq montana, and it sounds quite gud. Wot size do u think wud be more suitable, 9.5 or 12.5? wud they both provide adequate airtime?

all depends on your local wind conditions

As a jumping depower kite, wot in ur opinion is the best?

Also you might consider a Flysurfer.... good for both water and land :bigok:

Go for the 9.5 Montana....I think they are great kites. Of course i am Biased cause it's all i own.

Wait a second, just checked the price of those Montanas, says over 900! Wow.

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Originally posted by oldrestless Wait a second, just checked the price of those Montanas, says over 900! Wow.

From a 2M beginner loaner kite to a Montana?

No I am actually just checking out what kites are out there. I am thinking of something in the 5-7m range.

apex II , arc, Neo, Flysurfer Pulse or Pulse 2.........................................:duh::duh:

Vote for Apex II for land use for beginning. Pulse (closed foil) takes a bit to get used to on land since it wants to fly even after it is parked on the ground. This is great for water relaunch but requires some getting used to on land. It is amazing on water how it can right itself and take off with little work. The Apex (open foil) stays put when you land it and works straight out of the bag with little adjustment. Of course stake it off to keep either one from getting away from you. I am speaking from experience with a 7.5m Apex and 10m Pulse.

I would like to try an Arc. From what I have seen of Arcs it is best to have someone experienced to teach you the techniques and adjustment.

arc launches are a bit overstated........watch the vid, 1st time launch in sensible winds, piece o cake, arcumsized.........................:duh::duh:

I flew tridudes synergy with help one time and then bought my Phantom. I watched the videos showing the technique and launched perfectly for my first phantom flight and I was by myself. After flying for 10 minutes or so, I went over to the car and with the kite happily hovering overhead, leaned into my car to get my water. took a few drinks never having to touch the bar and it barely moved from zenith. Remarkable kites. Different launching than what most are accustomed to but not complicated.

I'm not sure if you spell the word "good" as "gud" as a funny joke. If not, you should know that "gud" is not a word and that "good" is what you mean.

My first depower was an Ozone Access XC. No regrets and I'm still flying a quiver of them a year later.

If we are getting into spelling and grammar then....
Ive should be I've
wud - would
wot - what
shud - should
u - you
ur - your

I guess this is some kind of texting shortcut spilling over onto a complete keyboard where there is no character limit and typing is easy? While it isn't difficult to interpret what the shortcuts mean, it is a bit annoying to read having to translate all this. It's a bit like calling collect. I want to talk to you about something but you have to pay.

relaunchable is spelled incorrectly as well

WHAAAA i dont like reading incorrect spelling WHAAA
Harden the F... up

Yeah, I'm sorry I even went there. I really try not to harp on grammar or spelling on the interweb, but the "gud" just got me. You're only saving one letter with that abbreviation and its so distracting to read. Same goes with a few of the others Bob listed.

Now back to helping this guy find a good depower. What is your budget?

Seems like you first need to decide what type of kite you want (twin skin arc, closed cell foil, open cell foil). Then you can decide on which one to go for and what size and all that. Personally I only have experience with open cell foils. I like their simplicity and quick set-up; packdown and easy to pull and reload safeties. Also they might be slightly cheaper than the others. However I think that they may have less stability and they also do not have the option of going on the water.

Is there anyplace that you can meet up with other flyers and try out their kites?

EDIT: Sorry snob I dnt mn to b so sft. Wil b hrder n the fut

I hate to bring that stuff up too but growing up with a mom and 2 neighboring aunts that were school teachers made me sensitive to grammar issues. Reading bad grammar (particularly when committed on purpose) is like a poke in the eye every time. Worst of all by mentioning it we seemed to have caused snobdr enough grief to force him to make an extremely uncharacteristic inflammatory and contrary remark about it. :wow: :shocked2:

Now, lets help nibsy figure out which arc er um depower he needs.

Its just stupid, my spelling isnt perfect, and it didnt bother me i understood him.

He needs to decide if he wants a kite that works for everything.
If he wants a land specific kite now and pick up a water kite when hes ready for that( what i would probably do)
Or if he wants a kite that works for both.

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Originally posted by kiteNH I'm not sure if you spell the word "good" as "gud" as a funny joke. If not, you should know that "gud" is not a word and that "good" is what you mean. My first depower was an Ozone Access XC. No regrets and I'm still flying a quiver of them a year later.

Geez... You really think he doesn't know good is a word? Come on now, quit being a #@%$#!ing #@%$#! for no reason at all.

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Originally posted by oldrestless Quote: Originally posted by kiteNH I'm not sure if you spell the word "good" as "gud" as a funny joke. If not, you should know that "gud" is not a word and that "good" is what you mean. My first depower was an Ozone Access XC. No regrets and I'm still flying a quiver of them a year later. Geez... You really think he doesn't know good is a word? Come on now, quit being a #@%$#!ing #@%$#! for no reason at all.

Why so sensitive? Its not like I flamed the guy. How should I know someone's spelling ability. I'm not a spelling nazi but I have never seen gud used as an abbreviation before. It doesn't read well and it only saves a single key stroke so what's the point.

Funny, when I quote you I can see that what you really wrote was quick being a #@%$#!g a$$hole but the forum auto bleeped you. Didn't really that it worked that way.

Anyhow, didn't mean to get everyone's panties in a bunch. Sorry Nibbsy, no offense meant by it. So what are you looking to spend on your first depower? Budget means a lot since they can run about $500-2k

Back on topic.
I like my 10m Alasca, but I am the only North American who owns one. You would be the first person in England, (as far as I know). There is a review by Dagon here .
There is video at Video. They are a bit of a pain to get, but the the kite has great performance on a board or buggy and a modest price, less than 500 pounds.
Alasca

Good luck on your kite purchase
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