If I manage to install the reef line safety on the Peak3 4 and 12m, do I need to decide whether I want to fly with or without extensions first question mark

How much commitment is there here question mark The instructions are not clear to me

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Ed - sorry you're having so much trouble installing the reef lines. I assume you have the printed material supplied by Flysurfer. I did find this video online; it's not in English but it may nonetheless be helpful. Good luck!

Thanks Steve, the question is does the installation of the RLS decide once and for all the flying line length

I have it installed on my P3 12. It seems a bit longer than it need to be, but I don't think it's meant to be used with anything longer than the standard lenght flying lines. When the kite is up, the reef line definately curves more through the air than the four flying lines, so it seems to be a bit longer than it needs to be ( maybe a meter or two (?) ). A few times after I've used it to land, it takes a little extra time to get fully extended inside the canopy and the kite flies as intended. I've thought about, but haven't yet looked into the possibility to extend the reff line if I extend the flying lines. I do love my P3 9 on six meter extensions to std., if I have the room around me to fly with 27m lines.

It works great for easy landings, but adds to the mess of lines when unpacking or if you get those great tangles, so I am constantly debating myself whether I'll keep it in setup or not. FLS on the Peaks is good enough after all. But I've kept it for now because it also does a somewhat better job (I think) on keeping the kite still on the ground when you take a break but not packing down for the day (I still default landing upside down straight downwind).

Haven't had much kiting lately, lost my driving licence for 12 months in November. :sniff: Hopefully I learn something from that, highly impractical to not be able to drive.

If you can, copy all text before previewing it. That way you can paste back everything if the post goes blank, and start editing suspicious characters (no I don't mean your kitebuddies :frog: ).

Flysurfer bar and lineset comes with extensions which you may use or remove.

If I install the red line safety and then remove the extensions is that okay or would the RLS need to change in length.

Reefline safety only fits with standard, or close to standard length FS linesets (21m). To my knowledge. The 6m extensions that you get with the big FS Infinty3 bar, is only 4x lines and you would need one more for the reefline. It connects at center, in addition to the lines already flying the kite.

It is a bit of pesky install, and first I couldn't quite wrap my head around it. But I just followed the instructions and it came out fine.

Thank you. So the answer is. The reef line safety included with the Peak 12 and 60 cm bar is for use with 21m lines and not the extensions as supplied by Flysurfer.

Sounds funny that they want me to discard the line extensions provided however I will move in faith.

Thanks for the help, and especially for the direct answer. Those who fly it know it best.

Yeah, it's somewhat annoying that you either need an extra (5th) line extension, or just remove the reefline if you want to put on extensions. Removing the reefline and resetting takes quite some extra time in the field, compared to just adding extensions to 4 lines.

Best alternative for extensions is to get an extra line in the actual lenght, or just forego the whole reefline, and go with std FLS.

Thanks again. The reef line extension should be in the box, with better instructions.
I need to sort this mess out before I waste any precious summer breezes.
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I recently picked up a 12M peak 3 (mainly because I needed an additional bar). I will most likely use this bar on my smaller peaks because it is the shorter length than my other bars. I would assume I would put the bar on my 6M peak 3 and if it were ever nuclear winds it would go on to my 4M peak 2.

I watched the reef line video and it appears that if I set it up on the 6M I would not be able to quickly and easily move the bar and lines to a peak 2 that does not have the reef line feature.

Am I seeing this correctly?

Quote: Originally posted by eric67m

I recently picked up a 12M peak 3 (mainly because I needed an additional bar). I will most likely use this bar on my smaller peaks because it is the shorter length than my other bars. I would assume I would put the bar on my 6M peak 3 and if it were ever nuclear winds it would go on to my 4M peak 2. I watched the reef line video and it appears that if I set it up on the 6M I would not be able to quickly and easily move the bar and lines to a peak 2 that does not have the reef line feature. Am I seeing this correctly?

I think you are seeing it correctly. The difference as you've no doubt surmised is the problem of one kite needing a 5.0 line setup and the other needing a 4.5. Memory serves that the Peak2s had a little loop of line stubbing off one of the power lines up near the kite that the 5th line attached to by larks head of the little loop just described. For the reef line setup I'm thinking maybe the little loop of power line gets a SS ring larks headed onto it through which you thread the 5th line before it attaches to the reef line. I might be wrong about this last part and confusing it in my mind with how this same issue is dealt with on my Born Kites. Chris (Fewd) would surely know. One issue you might deal with is the length of the 5th line being longer for the reef line setup than the length of the same line for the 4.5 setup.

Good luck with all this Eric.