I have a chicken loop upgrade for my 19m speed 2 that I want to install this weekend. The depower line is practically brand new, so I just want to untie the old one and tie the new one on. The old one is still brand new, but with the old style release, it will replace the worn out chicken loop on my 12m until I can get another upgrade from powerzone. I'm just curious if anyone can tell me what knot I should be using to tie them on?? Thanks in advance.

Shaggs, just pay real close attention to the old knot as you untie it and, before it's all undone, get another piece of rope to replicate the knot as reference. Snap photos as needed etc. and you'll be just fine.

The existing knot is probably a bow-line knot. It is a knot that will not slip or undo while in use but can be undone even after pulled tight. This is something you should practice tying so you know you can trust your work. There are lots of Youtube videos that show you how to do it.

A knot that's just as good is a rewoven figure eight also called a double figure eight. It may be a better choice since it is easier to look at and see if it is tied correctly.

Whichever knot you use you should leave a long tail or tie an overhand knot in the tail and snug it up to the main knot. This prevents the tail from slipping through and undoing the knot. These two knots are not supposed to undo under use but if you're jumping don't bet your life on it.

the knot below the RED eject is a figure 8 kont. leave about an inch sticking out the backside and dont forget the small washer between the knot and the loop.

the knot by the trim strap is a bowline. again leave no less than an inch sticking out the end

BTW, the shipment of new loops should be here next week.

The existing knot is probably a bow-line knot. It is a knot that will not slip or undo while in use but can be undone even after pulled tight. This is something you should practice tying so you know you can trust your work. There are lots of Youtube videos that show you how to do it.

A knot that's just as good is a rewoven figure eight also called a double figure eight. It may be a better choice since it is easier to look at and see if it is tied correctly.

Whichever knot you use you should leave a long tail or tie an overhand knot in the tail and snug it up to the main knot. This prevents the tail from slipping through and undoing the knot. These two knots are not supposed to undo under use but if you're jumping don't bet your life on it.

I think it's a directional figure of eight, on how to tie one I find this a really good site for knots:
http://www.animatedknots.com/fig8directional/index.php?Categ...

Thanks a lot guys! While it seemed to rain every time I thought of bringing my kites out this past weekend (Typical May Long Weather), I have used this free given knowledge to start learning these and many other knots. The bowline knot around my waist, with one hand, blindfolded, while being dragged across the water in shifty seas, life saving knot will be a long ways away I might add. I hope to get to the chicken loop and FDS this week, as I hope to take to the lake next weekend.

Thanks Again
Shaggs

Quote: Originally posted by powerzone

the knot below the RED eject is a figure 8 knot. the knot by the trim strap is a bowline. .

John,

any particular reason they don't use a bowline knot at the chick loop? Only wondering as I know I'll have some trim straps to replace one day and always assumed it would be a bowline on both sides.

I don't know that the bowline is ideally suited as a stopper knot - I thought it's real purpose was to form a loop to attach to something. The figure eight stopper is about as bomber as you can get while not distressing the integrity of the line and not being a bulky chunk of knot. Same with the rewoven fig 8 (I call it the fig 8 follow through)....it's intended to form a loop to attach something - I use it to tie into my climbing harness - but in the case of a chickenloop depower line you'd end up with a bulky knot where a bowline would be just fine.

I just wasn't sure what knot it'd be so didn't want to steer Shaggs wrong. Thanks for the insight PZ. Locked in memory now.