yeah, that's weird. Still, when your packing up, if you gather your leader lines together (like I've done at the 8.00 mark on the 'how to' vid) then wrap your killers around your handles - you can actually place the wrist straps over the handles to keep them together, then fig 8 your lines over the whole lot. I also used to use the fig 8 winder the lines came on too but these days I just fig 8 around the handles. With the kite killers wrapped around the handles, you may not need Mr. Sock!

edit: just seen your last post. - Yeah, that looks fine, either larks head to the loops on the back of the handles - or if they're not there, as you suggest - to a knot on the brake leader line.

Thanks John. The main reason I questioned it was at first I put the brake line through the hole and I did it the wrong way round and struggled to pull it back through because of the coating, so it just made me think that's what it'll do if I ever let go! and wrapping up the lines it just didn't seem right.

When I finally get out I'll larkshead it to the loops on the handles

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Originally posted by John Holgate yeah, that's weird.

Probably more than any other manufacturer, HQ has had a habit of tweaking their kite killers in the past couple of years. I've never flown these, but I remember Angus trying to describe them to me a while back, over the phone, when we were shooting the breeze.

In the past couple of years, HQ has gone through elastic loops with metal crimps (which Flexifoil also used), nylon webbing loops, and these.

Can't say I am a big fan of these, seems like they would be a good place for grit/wet sand to accumulate and cause a wear point. So far, the nylon webbing loops have been my favorite. They didn't have the tendency to loosen like the elastic ones did, and they were easier to visually inspect.

ATB,
Sam

Thanks sam

Im just glad everyone else can see what I'm trying to explain

Ok ok please look at the below... Opinions please on where the KS-P-A-M-L-I-N-K-s should be attached - either on the handle loops where the stake goes through, or creat another knot on the leader and attach using the slider so there is a slight movement?



P.s please don't laugh at my picture

I'd be inclined to use the loops at the back of the handle - less fiddly to put on and off? If that position did not provide you with enough brake to satisfactorily kill the kite, then I would attach it between a couple knots on the brake leader line. Try 'em both and see which you prefer - there's always more than one way to skin a cat.

yup i think ill try that first so theyre easy to take off.

thank you all, your all so very kind

Kite killers are probably the most simple safety device out there and it appears that HQ made it extremely complicated. All they do is enable you to stay connected to the handles via the brake lines when you let go. Tada. Peter Lynn has these beautiful KKs that are simply a velcro wrist strap attached to shock chord with a loop on the end. Larks head the loop to the loops on the bottom of the handles and you're done. You'd practically have less trouble making your own out of bungee chords. Or, just buy a pair of looped HQ/Peter Lynn KKs. Simplicity is key. Your setup with the loop tied in at the back should work as well.

WOW!! What a kite!! Crashed it twice but then got the hang of it and it's one he'll of a powerful kite!!!

See below for a vid;

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/stu_sheil/a21a3358....

What were you THINKING?! "You can't just go fly a big ass parachute thing like that on a windy day!!"

LOL kidding. Quoted from a different post. Looks like you were having a blast!! I'm psyched for you!

Haha that's funny! To be honest there wasn't much wind out. At one point I had to wait for the wind to come back again. You'll see I was also trying to have a go at the brakes too which worked well. I was only out for 15 minutes untill people came to set up for football matches pfft!!

It was amazing though, I just didn't expect it to pull so much and so strongly

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Ah-looked like great fun at a great spot! Football's always an enemy, we'd always like to use the same spots when we don't have access to a beach!

Keep flyin!

something that hasnt been metioned in this thread is the matter of insurance. if you want to fly at Ainsdale (southport) then you will need insurance and a permit. google bksa and aospkc

Hi Karl

Don't have insurance yet but will have. It's only about £15 a year isn't it?

bpka is, but not very good service. can take up to a month if not longer. bksa is £35 but instant cover

£35 a month to fly a kite??? Lol tbh it's not bad

per year and the Ainsdale permit is free