Power Kite Forum - JIBE 2019 - April 29 - May 3

JIBE 2019 - April 29 - May 3

acampbell - 5-31-2018 at 12:31 PM

Gang, I swear that there was more to this post. I can be terse but.... (something having to do with posting from an iPhone)

let me re-type...

So the Jekyll Island folks have given us the green light for the dates requested. The rest is just paperwork and I will work on that, along with the website, this weekend. These dates are earlier than normal, but there will likely be fewer Muggles on the beach.

Low tide is at 11:29 am on Monday, progressing to 2:19 pm on Friday.

Weather is expected to be variable, with darkness appearing sometime after sunset...

Randy - 5-31-2018 at 01:17 PM

:thumbup:

3shot - 5-31-2018 at 01:20 PM

Thank you Angus!!!!!!!

Get to see my peeps again. :thumbup:

acampbell - 6-1-2018 at 04:32 AM

Jason, you and the girls were missed greatly. We'll be glad to see you back!

jrhook - 6-1-2018 at 05:39 AM

Thanks Angus...such a great place!

3shot - 6-1-2018 at 03:05 PM

Quote: Originally posted by acampbell

Jason, you and the girls were missed greatly. We'll be glad to see you back!

Appreciate that Angus. You can't imagine how much we missed everyone and Jekyll Island.

soliver - 6-1-2018 at 06:57 PM

We'll be there!!! Thanks Angus!

acampbell - 7-26-2018 at 08:28 PM

JIBE 2019 Permits from JIA (Jekyll Island Authority) are in the bag and official for the dates posted on this thread - April 29 to May 3rd.

The southern limit of travel will no longer officially be the water tower, but instead will be a new sign installed just north of it The sign specifies that no dogs are allowed beyond that point and yaddah yaddah yaddah. Some of you have seen it. It is still south of the original arbitrary (and impossible to find) latitude that had caused us to file for a variance in the first place. This is a marker that the JIA staff and beach patrols recognize, so there will be no more need for 'splaining about the water tower and variances. It costs us but a few yards and if someone does accidentally wander to the water tower, I'm sure it will not be a big deal.

I will refresh the web page in a day or two after we mount an expeditionary trip to get a fresh photo of the sign, mark the coordinates and update the map.

More later and thanks again for helping make another successful year!

markite - 7-27-2018 at 05:58 AM

wouldn't it be clearer to paint "time to JIBE" on the water tower so we know where to turn

acampbell - 7-27-2018 at 06:50 AM

Quote: Originally posted by markite

wouldn't it be clearer to paint "time to JIBE" on the water tower so we know where to turn

HA! Wouldn't that be cool. I don't have the tactical gear for that, but you have given me a more practical good idea....

BeamerBob - 7-27-2018 at 07:29 AM

I remember the sign. I seemed to turn around by there anyway

acampbell - 7-27-2018 at 07:38 AM

I told the folks at JIA about MarS-P-A-M-L-I-N-K-s idea for the water tower and they thought it was riot and had a good laugh. While stopping just short of approval for that, they did give me to go-ahead for other ideas.

Joan and I are going out tomorrow for some pics so we can edit the maps for now. Next year we will have some beach-side signage.

mougl - 7-27-2018 at 10:04 AM

Looking forward to JIBE 2019!!! My return in 2018 reminded me just how necessary an annual trip to Jekyll is for ones sanity!

JimSSI - 7-29-2018 at 02:48 AM

https://thebrunswicknews.com/news/state_news/shorebirds-nest...

It's working....

BeamerBob - 1-12-2019 at 03:17 PM

Reservations made at the campground. Quantities limited. There is a weather update though. Cloudy with a chance of full sun.

Demoknight - 1-14-2019 at 02:35 PM

We have our house all booked up. Taking inventory of all the toys that are coming down with us. Bringing a Blokart this year in addition to the buggy and kites.

pokitetrash - 4-3-2019 at 09:45 AM

House booked!

acampbell - 4-3-2019 at 12:20 PM

Booked for JI campground for Jibe and all of May. See you there!

soliver - 4-4-2019 at 12:11 PM

Ditto

mougl - 4-5-2019 at 06:52 AM

Anyone have an extra room at their house? I'll gladly pay my fair share and buy beer!

TEDWESLEY - 4-9-2019 at 07:30 AM

We'll be in the usual place this year and ready to go!

jrhook - 4-10-2019 at 05:33 AM

Quote: Originally posted by TEDWESLEY

We'll be in the usual place this year and ready to go!

I'll try to keep track of my harness this year Ted.

pokitetrash - 4-28-2019 at 06:52 AM

Better bring your shock absorbers or some extra vertebrae. There's some really bad wash out from the tidal rivers everywhere we want a buggy. Should be fun to climb out of the troughs but be careful - they're a lot deeper than they look - ask me how I know. You're going to get wet if you want a ride.

pbc - 4-28-2019 at 09:46 AM

Quote: Originally posted by pokitetrash

Better bring your shock absorbers or some extra vertebrae. There's some really bad wash out from the tidal rivers everywhere we want a buggy. Should be fun to climb out of the troughs but be careful - they're a lot deeper than they look - ask me how I know. You're going to get wet if you want a ride.

That just makes it more exciting. :-)

soliver - 4-28-2019 at 05:58 PM

Extra Vertebrae!!!! Blast it, I knew I had forgotten something when I pulled out of the driveway!

TEDWESLEY - 4-29-2019 at 05:55 AM

It's one giant tide pool the length of the visible beach. Ah, the cooling refreshment on a hot day!

markite - 4-29-2019 at 06:47 AM

anyone got a twin tip, skim board, boogie board, air mattress, big aunt B cookie...anything - can you hook up a tow line to a buggy and pull someone along the tidal pool length? that would be a laugh.

TEDWESLEY - 4-29-2019 at 01:10 PM

I knew you would come up with something!

soliver - 4-29-2019 at 06:53 PM

Hey Guys... so my big buggy has a completely messed up wheel... I have been fighting with it since we arrived on Saturday and have finally resolved that there is nothing that I can do while I'm here to make it work. I've tried a bunch of stuff and if I keep up trying to fix it, I'm going to miss out on buggying.

So I've resolved to just use my small PL buggy. I'm posting to ask if anyone would be willing to let me borrow a buggy to hook to my tandem set up to in order to give my kids a few rides

markite - 4-30-2019 at 11:22 AM

Quote: Originally posted by soliver

Hey Guys... so my big buggy has a completely messed up wheel... I have been fighting with it since we arrived on Saturday and have finally resolved that there is nothing that I can do while I'm here to make it work. I've tried a bunch of stuff and if I keep up trying to fix it, I'm going to miss out on buggying.

So I've resolved to just use my small PL buggy. I'm posting to ask if anyone would be willing to let me borrow a buggy to hook to my tandem set up to in order to give my kids a few rides

I hope you got out riding Spencer (and not just because I'm eager for minute by minute updates). Curious what the problem is and why it's tough to resolve there if you picked up a hub/wheel to swap out. Bearing issue? mounting the tire issue? incompatible sizes? or just totally messed up and don't want to talk about it.

3shot - 4-30-2019 at 01:43 PM

Quote: Originally posted by soliver

Hey Spencer, what's up with the wheel? Bearing?

markite - 4-30-2019 at 02:10 PM

Ya, Jason and I are here at the JIBE online buggy customer support waiting to take your call so we can feel like we are there.

3shot - 4-30-2019 at 02:15 PM

Quote: Originally posted by markite

Ya, Jason and I are here at the JIBE online buggy customer support waiting to take your call so we can feel like we are there.

Sure are Mark. Man I miss those tide pool splashes, DQ Ice cream cones, friends dinner, and of course the Faux pineapple/ jalapeno beers...

BeamerBob - 4-30-2019 at 02:39 PM

Today was a one kite day, but it's the biggest I've ever flown. Big Blu rides again. I was scared to even launch it but it just curled up off the ground and eased up to zenith like it knew what was up. It turns very slow and sometimes not at all. Many times I had to reach up and grab a leader to change its direction because I couldn't stand to power it up more. LOADS of torque. It would be slow to power up from a standstill and then whoosh, the lines are singing. At any time once moving, I could induce side slide with a nudge on the bar. Always reserve in the tank. But this is no pig. I got 31.8 mph out of her and that could've been higher with miles to run on open beach. Several people commented on how huge it was but when they would stand beside me and look up at it, it looked like any midsize arc.
The fabric is something special too. This kite folds up into a 13m Scorpion bag. I likely won't part with this one unless I get too old to fly it.

Bladerunner - 4-30-2019 at 04:24 PM

Very Cool Bobby!

" slow to turn and sometimes not at all "
I love that description!

Now try and picture doing that on skis and hard water!

What was the wind speed?

BeamerBob - 4-30-2019 at 04:31 PM

Others might help with wind speed but I'd guess not much more than 10 mph. Just noticed I got 32 miles in today.

Windstruck - 4-30-2019 at 05:32 PM

Dang I want to get my buggy on and hang with you guys right now! Spencer - I hope your wheel deal gets worked out.

Live from the back seat of a yellow cab stuck in airport bound traffic in Vancouver, BC. A shout out to K2; too busy this trip to reach out (again). Your neck of the woods never disappoints.

markite - 4-30-2019 at 06:51 PM

Thanks for the update Bobby, I can see you riding with that story
I often use my 22.5 Charger II with the kite cat and have 10m extensions on the lines to put it high and it still needs a yank on the outside leader if I want to tighten the turn...and it's not nearly as light as big blue

mougl - 4-30-2019 at 07:10 PM

Seeing Big Blu in person was awesome!! That kite is beautiful and looks majestic in the air. I was on the 11m Frenzy UL all day and wished I had more kite. Bobby was getting some miles on the buggy with big blu seemingly effortlessly. I really had to work that Frenzy to get to speed but Bob just seemed to float on by. For sure a sight to behold!

Randy - 4-30-2019 at 07:24 PM

IKitesurf showed winds 10 to 14 pretty much due east. 3 kite day for me 5.0 and 3.75 NPW 21's and my 4m round flex kite. Got my fastest speed with the smallest one but by far the 4m was the best. Much easier going north with it. I wasn't super fast but best day ever for me. 2nd best day ever was yesterday. :thumbup:

soliver - 4-30-2019 at 08:40 PM

Quote: Originally posted by markite

Quote: Originally posted by 3shot

Hey Spencer, what's up with the wheel? Bearing?

One of my rims cracked... Its been slightly cracked for a while, but having a tube in there it hasn't been a problem for a couple of years now... It finally gave up the ghost on route to JI and split completely in half.

JimSSI was kind enough to give me 2 spares that he had, but one of them cracked while trying to seat the bead and the other just for some reason would not allow the bead to seat properly and it wouldn't hold air, and I have already broken 2 brand new tubes... its time to call a spade a spade and give that up. I even spent about 2 hrs with the repair guy at red bug motors with him trying to help set the bead... Got to drive on the runway, so that was kinda cool.

SO... fortunately as you may know, I have 2 buggies and brought both for giving the kids tandem rides, so today I took the tandem rig off and rode the PL Frankenbuggy. ... I got to the beach late because we went to the brand spankin' new Jekyll Mosaic museum and took a 90 minute trolley tour of the historic district... very very cool! We enjoyed it immensely in spite of the expense.

I did hit 21 mph with the 6m Peak in pretty light winds, so I consider it a good day.

As soon as I finish this post, I'll go out and take the barrows off the Frankenbuggy and put them on the Stinger so I can ride the big buggy tomorrow ... I added 6" extensions to the side rails to lengthen it and it looks even more bad@55 ... plus its WAY more comfy and ... fast-looking :lol:

...

acampbell - 4-30-2019 at 08:46 PM

markite - 5-1-2019 at 06:18 AM

Angus, turtle tracks?

acampbell - 5-1-2019 at 07:07 AM

Ok gang. Put down your coffee and zip up your shorts. Wind is dead onshore 7-10 and building. I am set up with blue tent but have to leave forward short while to help a camp neighbor move his RV a short distance. Set up near my stuff. My kites are still in the truck. See you soon

acampbell - 5-1-2019 at 07:09 AM

And there is cold water in my cooler. Help yourself

BeamerBob - 5-1-2019 at 03:17 PM

Epic day today! Speed is fun but it's all relative. The one thing that makes a day epic is riding in close proximity when everyone has similar power. It makes a dramatic sight on the beach as well. It makes cameras come out. It doesn't matter if the speeds are 60 or 20. Today they were 30ish. It was demoknight, deanaoxo, and I at first, then mougl jumped in. There was one time we were lit running south with 4 of us really close and up ahead there were two more coming at us head to head. Everyone did the right thing which is usually nothing, and we all just passed by each other like we'd been planning it for a week. Thanks for a day I won't forget guys.

soliver - 5-1-2019 at 03:26 PM

Great day today guys! I got the barrows off the PL buggy and put them on the Stinger... winds were somewhere between 10 & 14 mph I think ... I had up the big green 12m Peak 2 and had a grand old time running between the Pavilion and the Holiday Inn: hit 24.8 mph.

At one point there was a flock of 4 of us on that track; Errol, Bobby, (maybe Philip or Dean) and myself... it was pretty cool running with the big boys!... or at least in close proximity to them :lol:

Deffo played chase with Philip a little... he's got mad skills for sure!

Indeed, a great day!

soliver - 5-2-2019 at 03:57 PM

Hit a new PB today just before the rain... Had up the 6m P1 and did 30.5 mph just north of the tidal warning sign... Finally broke 30!!!

Great day in spite of it being short due to rain... Not sure if I'll be riding tomorrow or not, but I may try... If I don't see you before you head home, it was great to see you all and travel safe!

BeamerBob - 5-2-2019 at 06:26 PM

Another banner JIBE day. Two trips to the northern tip today with a speed pb of the week rounding the tip. It's like a little obstacle course going up there and so much fun. Best beach surface to be found once you get through the pointy bits. I have some pictures of demoknight pic and I up there. I'll get them posted after I get home. It was great to get to know people better that I met only last year. Just like anywhere, the location can be great but is made better by great people. We are lucky to have such a great community.

Randy - 5-2-2019 at 07:21 PM

Best JIBE ever for me (and every single one has been great). In 4 days I covered more than 75 miles of sand and water usually out riding from about 3 hours before low tide till a couple after, though I did cut it short today. Probably a good thing to as I was totally wiped out by 1:30. I had hoped to make it upwind to base camp again today, but I was finding it harder to get up wind. Saw lots of familiar faces and met some new folks as well. And I scored a couple great t-shirts. I'll post more later but for now thanks to Angus, NAPKA and everyone in attendance at the event.

markite - 5-2-2019 at 07:40 PM

awesome updates everyone -those of us that missed it appreciate the stories.

Did Dean manage to get his buggy repaired? saw he posted a busted fork to down tube weld

Anyone get a pic of the t-shirt design for this year?

3shot - 5-3-2019 at 05:59 AM

Thanks for the updates everyone. Sound like it was an amazing week! Miss my kite family. Jibe 2020

jrhook - 5-3-2019 at 06:03 AM

some early boarding action at JIBE 2019...wish we all could have stayed longer.
https://youtu.be/SNEWijFvwZQ

Randy - 5-3-2019 at 10:54 AM

Nice video! Great to have some stuff to help us remember it. I'm working on some video myself, but it may take a while.

jrhook - 5-3-2019 at 11:12 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Randy

Nice video! Great to have some stuff to help us remember it. I'm working on some video myself, but it may take a while.

A couple years ago, we set up a google drive link to share video files, which was cool.

mougl - 5-3-2019 at 11:34 AM

Great video!!!

jrhook - 5-3-2019 at 12:00 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mougl

Great video!!!

Thanks Scott, miles of great riding! Miles of great video to play with...JIBE was heavenly for me! Miss y'all already...

Randy - 5-3-2019 at 04:59 PM

Here is a video my wife shot.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BxAPHeRHFqW/

mystainedskin - 5-3-2019 at 08:56 PM

Great fun everyone! I have been anxious for the event since last year.

Awesome actually riding with everyone...finally.
3 days of just awesome riding and weather followed by 2 challenging ones, but that's fun also. :thumbup:

See those that are left on the beach tomorrow..

TEDWESLEY - 5-4-2019 at 06:43 AM

Big thanks to Angus! It was great to have him spend some real time in the buggy with us as it should be. A thankful nod to the weather
mother who provided the best four days in a row we've had in my memory. Great riding with all of you, and a shout out to those who
couldn't make it; you were truly missed.
A gift from the hurricane; the north end run is a piece of cake as a lot of sand was deposited over the pointy bits leaving a highway
to the driftwood and north beach. We were running full out where picking through the rocks had been the norm. There were tide pools
the entire length of the beach for a cool or fool splash. Care was needed when approaching A drainage channel as some were steep and deep. but what FUN! There were times when every type and size of kite were flying together from "Big Blue" to Randy's eclectic quiver
of interesting creations. You know the wind is great when there are 3M and 20m kites flying the same beach.
Next years dates are being determined. You don't want to miss it!

speleopower - 5-4-2019 at 09:01 AM

good fun for sure. Hoping to stay for a whole week next year.

soliver - 5-4-2019 at 11:48 AM

My clan had a great time this year and have now deposited ourselves on Saint Simons Island for the coming week. ... I'm sure there will be a sunset session or 2 on East Beach with Jim while I'm here and anyone who's still on JI is welcome to join in!

As always, many thanks to Angus and I hope to see you all next year!

Randy - 5-4-2019 at 02:24 PM

Quote: Originally posted by markite

Anyone get a pic of the t-shirt design for this year?

BeamerBob - 5-4-2019 at 05:11 PM

Each wheel had at least one bearing I couldn't turn with my fingers. Front wheel is back like new now. Back wheels have a different size and they come in this week. I'll double check before JIBE next year!

jrhook - 5-5-2019 at 04:01 AM

Well said my friend! "A single rose can be your garden, a single friend your world" and that is truth. Ted, you were literally my savior in helping me with a bridal discombobulation that defied my meager mind. Having you there at the right time, right on time, more than once, was the icing on an epic cake called JIBE 2019! I'll converse with powers that be of both organized religions and long established philosophical ideas to be able to relive those 4 amazing days. And Ted, if I may indeed wax sentimental, this is for you...
https://youtu.be/gPEviikDVns

Randy - 5-5-2019 at 05:32 AM

Quote: Originally posted by jrhook

Ted, you were literally my savior in helping me with a bridal discombobulation that defied my meager mind.

Good video JR. Hope your bride stays combobulated......

TEDWESLEY - 5-5-2019 at 05:33 AM

Be cautious how you wax, If you fly too near the sun your wings will fall off!
The pleasure was mine.

jrhook - 5-5-2019 at 05:36 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Randy

Quote: Originally posted by jrhook

Ted, you were literally my savior in helping me with a bridal discombobulation that defied my meager mind.

Good video JR. Hope your bride stays combobulated......

Ted, the bride is off limits regardless of your saint-like intervention. She's much too demure. Thanks for helping with my bridle though

BeamerBob - 5-5-2019 at 12:18 PM

I was thinking you guys were really really close friends.

soliver - 5-6-2019 at 08:04 PM

Had an outstanding time riding Saint Simons Island today!... The winds were light and there was a small to fair crowd on the beach, but there was plenty of room to ride. I started out with the a 4m NASA Star 2 and cruised around the island south to north. I forgot how easy it is to cruise with the NASAs ... then I put up the 6m Peak and went from the 6th st access near where my in laws are staying all the way almost to Gould's inlet on the north end several times and even did some speed runs across East Beach. Great times!

mystainedskin - 5-7-2019 at 07:45 AM

Some fixed bridle fun on the 3.9m and old school buggy from Saturday after most had cleared out.
Fb link is all I have as Google has me locked out at the moment, not allowing me boobtube access. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1021727396271298...
More in the works...along with some 4 pack riding with dean,Bobby, Scott...

Randy - 5-7-2019 at 10:23 AM

Can never get enough JIBE! Keep them coming!

Here is another.

mystainedskin - 5-8-2019 at 08:30 PM

Some pics from the event... fb share once again.
https://m.facebook.com/233127714244476/posts/302279160662664...

markite - 5-9-2019 at 10:56 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mystainedskin

Some pics from the event... fb share once again.
https://m.facebook.com/233127714244476/posts/302279160662664...

link isn't working

mystainedskin - 5-9-2019 at 08:51 PM

Sorry...get it loaded somewhere else soon. If you must...find Scott Benz Album:JIBE2019 on fb . Everything is public....
Just no photo storage programs in use at the moment..

Randy - 5-10-2019 at 05:45 AM

Here are a couple of the "eclectic" kites I used at Jekyll. The first one is my 4M round flex kite. I feel like it has a better window than an NPW and is pretty easy to fly "single handed". At about 24 seconds in I do a tack - something I've only been able to do with this design. It takes a while to get up to speed - it thrives on apparent wind. I covered 28 miles on Wed mostly single handed with this kite with a top speed just below 20 mph - no super fast but it is a pretty small kite after all. I'm thinking of making a 6M version next.

Next is my version of a 5 M NPW 21 - but with a flexible spar in the LE. Has most the advantages of a usual NPW, but the idea was to improve the window by using a spar. It certainly stop nose collapse - but hard to say about the window. This video isn't very good - my camera seems to have a tough time with the lighting at the beach but hey - it's not very long. Still you can get the idea.

handles

tomdiving - 5-10-2019 at 10:03 AM

randy, in the second video... are those homebrew handles? if so, what foam are you using on them?
tom

Randy - 5-10-2019 at 11:06 AM

tom,

No they came with a Peter Lynn skin kite. Don't know what foam it is.

TEDWESLEY - 5-10-2019 at 12:18 PM

I found the umbrella kite to be one of your most interesting creations. It is a deceptively spare design that was doing a great job moving you down the beach. How is it when used with janky inland wind, or longer lines?

Randy - 5-10-2019 at 01:39 PM

Thanks Ted,

Everything works better at Jekyll for sure, but I've been pretty happy with these kites at home in the winds that are let's less than Jekyll good.

There is a lot of discussion of this set of kites in the thread of Paraski Flex so I'll link that thread. http://www.powerkiteforum.com/viewthread.php?tid=35565

The short version is that the 8.5 M Paraski Flex works pretty well for me at my fairgrounds spot, but was really big and not exactly a light wind kite. I wanted to come up with something I could ride with at my lake spot so I made a 3M version that worked pretty well. Once I understood how it worked I decided the Paraski shape (elliptical or a parabola) and 25 some bridles were too complicated so I made one that was just a half circle and a lot less bridles. The original 1.6 M prototype flew well on a 4 line bar with long lines as well as the single handed bar. Video below shows that kite.

https://vimeo.com/309780824

So next I built a 4 m proto and used it a lot at the lake. Tried it at the fairgrounds once and it worked ok, but takes a more power on grass than pavement. So I haven't really tried much there.

Gusts are not much of a problem with this kite - lulls are the problem because you lose steering control if the kite is not powered up. The resulted in the kite taking a beating when I drug the leading edge across the ground. As a result, sometimes I fly it with 4 line handles and that gives a lot better control and keep the kite from dragging the ground. But when the wind is pretty strong or steady the single handed bar works fine, and its easier to tack with that than handles.

The one I used that the beach was the latest version with stronger leading edge material and cascade bridles. I was really happy with the way it worked out - hooked to a buggy it is sort of the thrift store version of the Land Yacht.

TEDWESLEY - 5-11-2019 at 06:06 AM

Thrift store perhaps, but it was doing a good job for you!
Keep up the interesting experimentation, I love the variety of forms that you come up with.

Randy - 5-11-2019 at 08:41 AM

Thanks. I was thinking it wouldn't be too hard to get some black fabric and make one that actually looks like an umbrella. Well at least half an umbrella.......