AQRs for Buggies

There has been a smattering of discussion over the years on Automatic Quick Release (AQR) systems for buggies, but I don't recall a dedicated thread to their development and refinement.

After a freak gasoline fight accident in my earlier days of power kiting I needed a fail safe method of ensuring I got disconnected from my kite during OBE initiation. Jeff (BigKid) was great in discussing this with me and ultimately selling me my first AQR. It has served me well for several years now (thanks Jeff!).

I decided to make some refinements to my AQR setup due to a couple of (possibly self imposed) limitations of my current setup. All things being equal I don't want a "stinger" under my seat and I want a system I can engage and disengage "blind" with great ease. I wear a full helmet and my protruding chin guard makes it hard to look down between my legs and hook up my current AQR.

Below is a picture of what I'll refer to as my AQR V-1.0. Great thanks to my good friend John (Cerebite) for starting me in this general direction. This particular snap shackle actuates by pulling a mechanism down with a cord as compared to the perhaps more common style that utilizes a plunger. I've heard that the plungers can bend under heavy use. While this style shackle doesn't have this problem there are other issues (but enough on that for the first post).

V-1.0 needs refinement to be sure, and I want to refine the green piece of paracord quite a bit. This is just a running system at this point for sizing and general proof of concept. The bright orange 'biner is on a stout nylon belt that can easily be adjusted for length. The SS ring is what I plan to grab "blind" and slap it into the 'biner to hook up the snap shackle.

I fly DP so the chicken loop goes through the shackle.

Thoughts? Other designs? Please discuss!


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Quote: Originally posted by shehatesmyhobbies

I spent a couple days and several hours with my first hand Macguyver man Nick, at the last WBB, working on an AQR refinement myself after a really bad OBE the previous bash that I thought I broke my back, it was a bad one, not one I wanted to relive anytime soon. A couple guys had Jeff's AQR, I looked, studied, worked it out between Nick and myself and came up with a really nice set up. Not intrusive, adds almost zero weight and definitely works. I will post pics in the next day or two and show how mine is worked. Still need to get the right release, I couldn't find one on the island so I made due with the next best thing. Am I wrong to say that the top hat is your "leash" for your depower? Pretty nice set up.

After some pretty fun work I am now at what I'll call the Windstruck AQR V-2.0. I played with having the dead man's strap come from the down tube just in front of the seat, but at this point I'm not comfortable with the angle of pull this sets up to actuate the shackle. I want the angle of pull as close as possible to perpendicular to the shackle's actuating mechanism when flying under load and I just wasn't pulling that off from the front so I switched back to using a stinger and bringing the dead man's strap up from between my legs again as I had things set up with Jeff's (BigKid) AQR.

I got some 750 lb military grade 5mm diameter paracord to create a loop for the shackle as well as a manual release "rip cord" of sorts. The rip cord incorporates about a 1" marble inside a 7-pass monkey fist. The monkey fist attaches to the primary SS ring with a series of cobra knots, a design I copied from some YouTube videos for making paracord key chains. I elected to make the parts bright safety orange because, well, it's a safety system.

Key to this AQR design for me was ease of engaging and disengaging, something I struggled with at times with my first AQR, particularly as I wear a full face helmet and I couldn't necessarily see what I was doing as I was digging around between my legs trying to find something to grab hold of and engage. Now, I can easily slap the SS ring into the carabiner even with my eyes closed. I'm pretty pleased with that part.

I suspect there will follow some fine tuning of the length of the dead man's strap coming up to the carabiner. The strap is a sturdy nylon belt to allow for this adjustment without having to swap out anything. I don't want the system so snug that I actuate the shackle during normal riding, but neither do I want my seat meat to be too high over the seat when the system pops open in an (please Lord) aborted OBE.

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You may have trouble activating the Wichard quick release with it mounted that way around.

Have to be very careful when you connect to the bar which side the orange cord is or you'll be pulling the wrong way to activate it.

Maybe a "single" cone to trigger it/lift the bar reliably facing that way round?

Maybe pass a loop of the orange cord through trigger gate of the Wichard then on up through to the attaching "Screwed shackle", so it lifts the gate reliably under strain. This would then foul the swivel though.

End for end it, but not sure the chicken loop on your kites control bar would then fit along with the spreader bar loop of your harness. AND kite would be attached to the buggy still.
It may if that's a 2674, 81mm long Wichard. But may struggle with a 2673 70mm one???

Double cones.

Here are the measurements to build the cones I made.
Made from 5/16" stainless steel bolts. Measurements are in thousandths of an inch, except where noted.

Chook - you raise a point that Cerebite and I have discussed off-line of PKF, viz., direction of pull to ensure you are not making an "eccentric" pull on the trigger gate. Please note that in this picture the shackle is just hanging down without being hooked into my chicken loop. Under use and load the shackle would be facing up so the paracord "loop" would not be pulling eccentrically. Orientation of the shackle is still important as you noted because depending on which way you twist it the paracord loop will either end up pulling on the trigger gate close to or far away from where the trigger gate pivots. I want the loop pulling on the trigger gate far away from its pivot point.

OBEs seem most likely when you let the kite power up when it is "behind" you while in motion or some other scenario when the kite is high in the air and powered up. In such settings the shackle would be vertical if not slightly oriented to the rear so when the bale opens the rigid side of the shack will be pretty much vertical too and the chicken loop should slide up and away without fouling up on the shackle.

This morning I cleaned up the "loop" between the shackle and SS ring with a second cobra knot series, leaving just enough room at the shackle to slide it over the tip of the shackle so I can reverse the shackle orientation. I sort of dig the way this looks and it makes everything clean.

Here are the specifics of the Wichard hardware I went with:

Wichard Snap Shackle Quick Release Large Swivel Eye, 3-1/2": WC2774
Wichard D Shackle 3/16" Pin: WC1402

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Quote: Originally posted by Cerebite

Just a couple of notes on your shackle connecting your winchard to your harness bar: I usually do them so that the threads are on the downward side so if it backs out (more on that next) the pin will sort of stay in place with gravity assistance Make sure that you use thread lock on that shackle pins do want to back our from the threads Your system is really starting to look very clean and elegant

Quote: Originally posted by ColinW

Nice clean looking setup. I love knots. Is anybody else worried about where the monkey's fist will be swinging when it gets bumpy...watch YOUR marbles Steve.

Good point! I also tied a smaller five-pass monkeyball around about a 3/4" marble. Problem was it looked so darn small down there, so for proportionality reasons alone I went with the 7-pass monkeyfist shown in the photo. I'll bring the smaller monkeyfist with me and could switch it out pretty easily if the need (ouch!) arises.

Quote: Originally posted by Cerebite

ColinW/ Windstruck: I have been running a monkey fist in my AQR for quite a few years and have never had that issue. I think it comes down to the geometry of the situation: The bar tang, shackle and winchard put the fist about 5 cm out from "ground zero" statically and any angle of flight above the horizon will lift it an additional 3 -5 cm above ground zero so even factoring in the 3 cm "drop" of the monkey fist key chain the fist does not come anywhere close to "ground zero" during operations. Interesting notes about Monkey Fists: when tied properly [and they seldom are] they do not have a core, it is only the line. Historically if you were caught with weighted fists on your lines the longshoremen would cut them off immediately as they pose a significant safety hazard when thrown or shot out of a line cannon.

All I can say if "phew!" - ground zero safe and sound.

Interesting bit of intel regarding monkey fists sans solid centers. Gonna have to learn me how to tie them official now.

Quote: Originally posted by Windstruck

Please note that in this picture the shackle is just hanging down without being hooked into my chicken loop. Under use and load the shackle would be facing up so the paracord "loop" would not be pulling eccentrically. Orientation of the shackle is still important as you noted because depending on which way you twist it the paracord loop will either end up pulling on the trigger gate close to or far away from where the trigger gate pivots. I want the loop pulling on the trigger gate far away from its pivot point.

Quote: Originally posted by eric67m

Chook, I also had concerns about my shackle flipping over. I designed my spreader bar adaptor so it couldn't flip over. But I also run a pin style shackle. This way it is always pointing down towards the buggy seat.