I am about to get 6m Ozone Fury. I was wondering if I can upgrade from handlers to control bar in the future for kiteboarding? If so.. which cheapest
and best control bar I should look for? Thanks!AnnieO - 19-5-2013 at 03:17 PM
I would not call going from handles to a bar an upgrade, however, for land boarding only purposes a bar is useful.
PKD makes a really nice crossover bar for 4-line fixed bridle kites at a good price. Will cost much less than an Ozone Turbo bar for basically the
same kind of performance..elfasa - 19-5-2013 at 03:27 PM
I have to say I am a big fan of my Ozone Turbo bar. Don't have any plans to use handles regularly again. (Although I'm also slowly making the move to
Depowers).
Some people don't like them, and that's fine. But IMHO what they do, (bar for FBs) they do best. (They do work better on some kites than others. And
sometimes needs a bit of tuning, but its not difficult!)
My recommendation: try and hook up with someone that has one and you can have a play on it !
55cm size is suitable for kites up to about 3.5 - 4.0 sq. meters.
65cm size is suitable for kites over 3.5 - 4.0 sq. meters.
Meant for smaller/recreational fixed bridle foils.
Wrist safety
Meant for larger fixed bridle kites
Designed for use with a harness
Primary safety is a tophat release just above the chicken loop.
Secondary safety is a pin release on the leash connecting the chicken loop to the bar.
Fixed chicken loop. Letting go of the bar will not activate the brakes unless the chicken loop is also released.
Wrist safety
Can be used with a harness, but not required.
Designed for use with a harness
Cross-over linkage applies opposing brake during turn inputs to make for sharper turns.
Individual back line trimmers
Tophat primary safety
Chicken loop secondary safety
Leash attachment point on brake handle for flying unhooked
Cross-over linkage applies opposing brake during turn inputs to make for sharper turns.
Harness not required, but can be used with a D-Loop
Wrist safety
Cross over bars allow a kite to turn faster, but with the exception of the PKD Crossover bar, tend to be more expensive.
ATB,
Samhellnferno - 19-5-2013 at 11:53 PM
Wow that is a lot of information, thanks Sam!Turtlejon - 20-5-2013 at 08:15 AM
Yes, a very informative post there, thank you!lives2fly - 20-5-2013 at 01:50 PM
I use a flexi traction extreme bar (the long version) on my 5.6 and 6.6 and a traction lite on my 3.5 and 4.7 - you really need a long bar on bigger
FB's I have a short peter lynn bar that came with my Twister but it's useless.
The biggest advantage of a bar is you can fly one handed. Toeside riding, 180's to and from toeside and heelside to toeside carves are easier to learn
and more comfortable.
I also prefer the connection to the harness with a bar particularly with a chicken loop.
Having said all this I'm flying my FB's with handles most of the time these days - you have a lot more fine control - particularly in light winds.
If you really want to upgrade then get a depower set up.BeamerBob - 20-5-2013 at 02:03 PM
Just a clarification, but you won't want to take an Ozone Fury on water since it is an open cell foil. It will instantly be sucked into the water if
you touch it with any impact.hellnferno - 20-5-2013 at 08:18 PM
I am using it on my mountainboard tho. I will start with handlers to learn basic flying characters then move to basic control bar with chicken loop or
get a depower if I am rich enough after the camp :PBeamerBob - 21-5-2013 at 06:31 AM
And these devices are usually referred to as "handles". I thought "handlers" was a typo but it keeps showing up.Bladerunner - 21-5-2013 at 06:18 PM
I am using it on my mountainboard tho. I will start with handlers to learn basic flying characters then move to basic control bar with chicken loop or
get a depower if I am rich enough after the camp :P
If you are going to move to a bar and CL then you are going to move to using a harness.
I suggest you get the harness 1st and put a " strop " line between your handles to hook in. Getting used to being hooked in is a part of progression
with handles or a bar. You will NEED the harness to take advantage of a bar and CL. Personally I prefer handles and a strop with FB kites even on ATB.
Of all the bar choices. The Turbo bar is the best for moving to depower. The crossover bars give a 2:1 input to your brakes and speed up your turns
greatly. Basic bar with a simple pulley is almost a step backward. No brake control. Avoid buying one of those.
Turtlejon - 21-5-2013 at 06:51 PM
Is that pkd bar just as good as the turbo? I'm thinking of moving towards something like that...John Holgate - 21-5-2013 at 07:05 PM
Here's a video review on the turbo bar..
Bladerunner - 22-5-2013 at 06:46 AM
Turbo bar and crossover bar go about the job + connect up differently.
Don't confuse them as being the same. Turtlejon - 22-5-2013 at 09:31 AM
Right, I see the differences now. Thanksbigkid - 22-5-2013 at 10:07 AM
The PKD bar is designed for use with the Buster Soulfly.
The PKD Buster Soulfly was designed to fly with handles and the Buster bar. I have not used the Buster Bar on other kites but I have used it on the
Busters and the trade off is so slight that it was hard to tell the difference, other than you hook in with the handles and you have to add a loop
thing to hook in with the bar.
If you want a 1.5m to 4.4m trainer for the water than I would suggest the Buster Soulfly and the Buster Bar as your trainer kite, as you can use the
bar or resell it with the handles and still recoup your $$ or keep it and have a killer high wind kite.
