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Anyone able to give me a valuation for a couple of venoms please?

elfasa - 21-1-2013 at 04:15 PM

A guy may be selling this on KC, he's asking for what people think its worth. What price range would you say is right for this kit:

Venom 1 16m, and V2 10m. the 16m has no damage and is in good condition. The 10m has a couple of professional repairs that are quite small.
I have only one bar it is the 07 it is in good nick apart from the out plastic on the chicken loop has split. And there is only one bag for them both.

Sold as a pair.

Thanks,
Tim

RedSky - 21-1-2013 at 04:40 PM

Are you buying them as an investment? What's it worth to you...what value do you put on fun. :)

Or is it that you don't want to get stung? I got stung bad once over a modified flexi freestyle buggy and paid way over the top and all because he invited offers. Never again.

I hate it when they don't post a price, it annoys me no end.
I normally walk away in protest.

Offer him 150 quid, see what he says. Then do everyone a favour and post it up.

erratic winds - 21-1-2013 at 05:25 PM

In my experience anyone who asks how much the kite they want to sell is worth, is about to be very, very disappointed.

RedSky's got the right tack!

elfasa - 21-1-2013 at 05:46 PM

Cheers guys,
Well ive been after a route into depower for a while, but cause of money i have pretty much accepted that i wouldnt be able to untill i got a job, cause these kites have a few down points i was wondering if they would go cheaply.

Yeah, basicly whatever i buy i want it to be at a bargain price. I dont wanna be offering him something that turns out to be way over what its actually worth, just like you mentioned with your bug.

Ill pm the guy and see what he says.

On a slightly different note, what do you think of these kites in general ? Are they still good kites? i worry that buying older kites the tech may be really outdated, and a bit rubbish. You still see people flying Venoms.
What are their general flying characteristics, and wind range (for a ~14st, primarily buggy a bit of ATBing, at the beach)
Are they good first depower kites?

Cheers
Tim

Snake - 21-1-2013 at 06:01 PM

Hmmm.... I might be interesed in these. I could use them to make a quiver of venoms being I already have a 13m. I could probably even sell my 13m and just have the 10m and 16m and have a good wind range. Shipping might cost a small fortune but it the are cheap and you decide to pass on them elfasa, I might pounce on them.

carltb - 21-1-2013 at 09:28 PM

£280-£350

RedSky - 22-1-2013 at 06:51 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by elfasa
On a slightly different note, what do you think of these kites in general ? Are they still good kites? i worry that buying older kites the tech may be really outdated, and a bit rubbish. You still see people flying Venoms.
What are their general flying characteristics, and wind range (for a ~14st, primarily buggy a bit of ATBing, at the beach)
Are they good first depower kites?

Cheers
Tim


I wouldn't rule out the Venoms as a first depower kite but they do require a new landing and launch technique. It's easy once you know how I guess.

I think the traditional route into depower would have you looking at an Ozone Access.

The Access will seem more familiar to you if you're coming from a fixed bridled kite and they are excellent in the buggy.

I'd say the Venom is more a landboarders kite where the Access is more buggy friendly.

The Venoms are reputed to have very good gust munching characteristics and therefore a better choice for lumpy inland flying.

The Venoms also need enough wind to inflate the kite.
If you're not sure about depower then you might not feel confident about flying such a huge looking monster of a kite in the wind needed to inflated it.

You shouldn't allow yourself to be intimidated by it's size vs wind speed tho as even the 16m take a fair bit of wind for their size.

The 10m is definitely going to be a high wind kite in the bug.

Depower range is big for both Venoms, much wider than an Access.

Check out the PL Arc wind speed calculator. You should be able to get away with extending the top end wind range if you're in a bug.



http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/mx5alan/arcs/wind_range.htm
(scroll down to V16 and V2-10)

Maybe someone with more experience with Arcs will come along and give you better advice as my experience is very limited.