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Trailskates + NasaWing 7sqm directly on handles (no lines) = good match , good fun !

herc - 11-3-2011 at 02:56 PM

quite powered session on a 7 sqm nasawing with my new trailskates.
wind was from 10 - 20 knots in the gusts (!!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek6KzRCZC7g


loosing ground, but it was fun anyway.

DHKITE - 11-3-2011 at 05:49 PM

looks fun

Kamikuza - 11-3-2011 at 06:28 PM

You got a pair, did you? You like them?
Looks like they work good!

herc - 11-3-2011 at 11:43 PM

kami, this trailskate binding where you put your feet is a bit lacking (or honestly: #@%$#!ty), but the overall trailskate is fine. wheels could be a bit larger and wider. the trailskates really nee smooth terrain like for example a football grass place or hard sand. on a meadow they will work, but it will be a bumpy ride. those channel truck very flexible deck mountainboards work better in bumpy terrain. the trailskates have no flex at all (even if they talk about a "composite material with flex" - i cant feel any flex..)

BUT: i really like kite-skating much more than kite-boarding. so yes, i am quite happy with now having those trailskates!! i think its simply a matter of taste. i never really got the hang to those mountainboards. i feel much safer on the trailskates when under a bit higher forward speed.

thanson2001ok - 12-3-2011 at 05:03 AM

Nice session.

Looks like you can only step turn with these skates. Is that correct?

Kamikuza - 12-3-2011 at 05:12 AM

They flexed when I stood on them :D

herc - 12-3-2011 at 10:15 AM

@thanson2001ok: correct. but a minimum amount of carve-ability is there (more on soft grounds; on asphalt none). but not much.
not nearly as with normal inline skates. first time i used trialskates i stumbled a few times, because i naturally tried to carve, but the trailskates did not follow..

Bladerunner - 12-3-2011 at 10:32 AM

I am shy of the trailskate design because of that extra length. Real leg breakers IMHO?
The Coyote is still a very clumsy set-up but I haven't had any issues with them torqueing out and potentially injuring me.

Without a doubt more stable in a straight line so everything has it's trade offs !

I am with you Herc. I have forced myself to learn ATB but when the going gets tough I want to be 2 footed. It is how my deepest memory reflexes are set.

bobalooie57 - 12-3-2011 at 12:11 PM

Hey BR, I've been meaning to ask, how do you like the Skorpian skates in your sig? Do they work with a kite?

herc - 13-3-2011 at 09:47 AM

@Bladerunner: i am also afraid about too much torque to my legs in case of a crash. so i think i will sooner or later mount a ski boots - safety binding. i have seen that there is a new type of safety binding that is very similiar to those bindings on snowblades (those clamp bindings that are freely adjustable in boot size - dont know the english word - in german: "bügelbindung")

(these images are from an ebay auction. unfortunately i missed to bid at this auction :( )




anyone know who sells / builds these bindings ?

Bladerunner - 13-3-2011 at 10:10 AM

I sprained my ankle last spring and is is pretty much impossible to test the Scorpians here in winter so they sit as new.
I'm packing for NABX. Poor Coolbreeze is getting hit with everybody for truck space. The Scorpians will go in the " you are welcome to leave it behind bag " that I think I'll try to talk CB into taking? I am not That impressed and not sure I want to waste Playa time testing them for long ?

Herc, Spademan made a similar binding back in the day?

I get 1 shot a year at top speeds. I start thinking about it pre NABX every year. I am pretty certian that if somebody shows up one day with a set of doomwheels I will take them for a ride ! If I make them it would be like Herc! Boot and binding.

If speed is you goal then the extra weight down low like that can't be bad ? Both the larger footprint + weight are good for speed , bad for jumping. Can't have it all in 1 . WE know that with our kites.

alf - 15-11-2011 at 02:34 PM

hy

i hav a made a mod on my trailskate for cross country skiing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_SnpSFHwwU



it makes the ski so light while skating because the back wheel always stays on the ground

i can fix the binding back alpin with a sandow


maybe sloping on a trailskate would be fine :

http://www.sloping.ch/Videos/tabid/2362/Default.aspx

another binding:
http://www.google.fr/search?gcx=w&q=karhu+karver+binding...

Bladerunner - 16-11-2011 at 07:41 AM

Do you have too large of feet to fit Coyotes ? I have very few complaints about mine !

You look a natural on 2 feet !

P.S. I gave the Scorpian skates a try. Very clumsy and no ankle support. Too short a wheel base . Generally felt unstable.

alf - 16-11-2011 at 10:18 AM

i hav a pair of coyottes but i don t use theim since i found trailskates faster and more offroad capable ( for skating use with poles )
my poles are to small for the coyottes , maybe the reason for my opinion


now that my trailskate seem to weight 500 g it will be worst


i hav changed the bridles on my nasawing (see drawing)

http://xxailes.net/index.php?topic=1501.0

100% instant depower and improved upwind angle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICF-2F3JhMY&feature=playe...

PHREERIDER - 16-11-2011 at 10:31 AM

you got some steam going at the end. nice go. those little skis look fun!

that NASa wing looks frontline biased. yeah?

alf - 16-11-2011 at 10:55 AM

Their is something wrong in some bridles lengths

ican t fly with 25m lines on this bar, the nasa take off but isn't abble to fly, the nose flys to the ground back

it flew quite welll with orginal bridle dispostion , lines and handles
but it was so hard to depower
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnG6MvdEj4M&feature=playe...

given the speed i thought first you were on ice !

http://vimeo.com/32123493