Power Kite Forum

this forum not under FBI Investigation

Jason1291 - 10-16-2009 at 12:39 PM

The forum administrators may be interested in the following links. This forum's reputation is on the line and it will start losing it's sponsors and the trust buyers have in it very quickly if things are not done to resolve the product slandering issues that exists on this site.

cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270471159740&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280410927895&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

eznet.biz/powerkiteforum.htm

http://www.powerkiteforum.com/viewthread.php?tid=10841

eBay is the largest online marketing site and more links will be provided on eBay to expose this forum to buyers if all postings slandering our product are not immediately removed.

carltb - 10-16-2009 at 12:55 PM

is this for real.
i thought the forum was a place for free speech. everybodies posts are just there personal opinions.

lad - 10-16-2009 at 01:07 PM

Here, lemme exercise my 1st Amendment rights...

...hey, MORON*...If you (and the "FBI") think PKF is slanderous against products, why would YOU suddenly be linking PKF reviews to your OWN ebay auctions?


*" 'vulgar abuse'...ostensibly expresses an opinion rather than a statement of fact and is legally safer..." - Wiki entry for Penn & Teller's Bullsh#t

kitejumper - 10-16-2009 at 01:09 PM

i only have one thing to say in response to this:HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

bison - 10-16-2009 at 01:10 PM

This person is a SCAM ARTIST! Click the link below and read all the posts he has made to this board. He may also have multiple login names.

http://www.powerkiteforum.com/misc.php?action=search&src...

Under Investigation!!! BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ROTFLMAO!!!

I will be filling a complaint with Ebay concerning this seller. I would suggest that everyone that wishes to remove this parasite from this site to do the same. He won't be here promoting his products, if Ebay has caste him to the wind!!! :spin:

dylanj423 - 10-16-2009 at 01:12 PM

this is that douchebag kite buggy-ripoff piece of ____ trying to scare us off of sharing our own opinions on the kites and equipment that he is blatantly ripping off

his company is kyson usa and there is a lot of evidence on the web that would lead anyone to believe that he is 1) a waste of our precious resources, 2) a con artist 3) a slumlord 4) infringing on trademarks and intellectual property copyrights

hey, guy at kyson usa that is obviously a crappy businessman, do you really think that i am going to sit idly by and let somebody buy your piece of junk, ripoff kite, if they ask the opinion of the forum???

nope... its called freedom of speech, and i am going to use it

have a nice day....

:moon:

dylanj423 - 10-16-2009 at 01:19 PM

i filed a complaint on the seller as having inappropriate links.... maybe if we all speak up, ebay will do something.... also, maybe we should keep an eye on this guy and shoot down his shoddy ebay sales, too.... it is illegal to do what he is doing, and i have had enough of his crap

lad - 10-16-2009 at 01:20 PM

Hey, go easy on him! Who knows? He might sign on a new, celebrity endorser for his carefully crafted & totally original kite designs!

kiwis.jpg - 20kB

B-Roc - 10-16-2009 at 01:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dylanj423
i filed a complaint on the seller as having inappropriate links....


How do you do that as I will do the same.

dylanj423 - 10-16-2009 at 01:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by B-Roc
Quote:
Originally posted by dylanj423
i filed a complaint on the seller as having inappropriate links....


How do you do that as I will do the same.




at the bottom right of the page that first comes up.... no scrolling necessary

the options are SHARE PRINT and REPORT ITEM

click REPORT ITEM and follow the links

B-Roc - 10-16-2009 at 02:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dylanj423
Quote:
Originally posted by B-Roc
Quote:
Originally posted by dylanj423
i filed a complaint on the seller as having inappropriate links....


How do you do that as I will do the same.




at the bottom right of the page that first comes up.... no scrolling necessary

the options are SHARE PRINT and REPORT ITEM

click REPORT ITEM and follow the links


OK, now I see that. What option did you then select from the category of choices? "counterfeits" or "fraudulent"?

f0rgiv3n - 10-16-2009 at 02:25 PM

rofl.... this is priceless.

burritobandit - 10-16-2009 at 02:29 PM

aahhahahahahahaha this is so awesome :roll:

carltb - 10-16-2009 at 02:30 PM

lodged my report aswell

kteguru - 10-16-2009 at 04:04 PM

If you guys want to apprehend the fellow I'll donate an 8.5 blade which we can shackle him to,,,,,,,,,,,,,then all we need is some 40 mph winds and that will be the last anyone has seen of him:smilegrin:

indigo_wolf - 10-16-2009 at 04:19 PM

First link....

A PL Comp XR Buggy with Standard Wheels & Axle for $995?

"New Peter Lynn Competition XR Power Snow Kite Buggy"

An unmodified PL Comp XR as a Snow Kite Buggy?

Errr...ummm... Wonder if you get a discount on the belly pan with a picture of a bridge.

ATB,
Sam

Bladerunner - 10-16-2009 at 04:21 PM

Looks like we can expect Nova kites might be coming out with a 5m fixed bridle Ala his 5m Blade that he just stole the pattern of. Like he did with the Montana.

One of the things I like MOST about this site is that it doesn't have ANY commercial sponsorship. Just another example of how far off base this scammer is.

We must be driving him crazy :roll:

I will be sure and report him. I have been wondering how for a long time. ( done , done and done )


What is the story behind this eznet.biz site that he links to ? It comes up as under construction when I try and go to it ????

It is funny how he thinks we are going out of our way to make him look bad when all we have to do is point out what a "#@%$#!iot" he is . He does all the hard work. :smug:

Kamikuza - 10-16-2009 at 05:14 PM

... perhaps the legal department of PLK should be notified?

Maven454 - 10-16-2009 at 05:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jason1291
The powerkiteforum.com administrators may be interested in the following links. This forum's reputation is on the line and it will start losing it's sponsors and the trust buyers have in it very quickly if things are not done to resolve the product slandering issues that exists on this site.
eBay is the largest online marketing site and more links will be provided on eBay to expose this forum to buyers if all postings slandering our product are not immediately removed.


Interesting tidbit... this forum doesn't have sponsors. Nor does it in fact have buyers since the forum itself doesn't sell anything... So let us see who really has more to lose.

B-Roc - 10-16-2009 at 05:48 PM

I reported him to ebay. Why would he be so stupid as to post those links here. Its like he's taunting us to make his life miserable.

kitejumper - 10-16-2009 at 05:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by kteguru
If you guys want to apprehend the fellow I'll donate an 8.5 blade which we can shackle him to,,,,,,,,,,,,,then all we need is some 40 mph winds and that will be the last anyone has seen of him:smilegrin:
naw, 40 mph winds will only give him a nice little joyride....i say wait until a category F5 tornado hits THEN we can send him away LMAO.......oh @#%$!!! now the fbi is gonna be all over me!!

flyboy15 - 10-16-2009 at 07:28 PM

Passing this info to our club as we speak.

What are all the aliases you guys know for this guy...

I got the jason2191 or whatever, romano buggies, nova something i think?, and kite trike?

let me know asap

B-Roc - 10-16-2009 at 08:30 PM

I was just reading his ebay post on the "blade". It comes with a "robust 55cm aluminum bar". :barf: I wonder how many of these get bought?

BeamerBob - 10-17-2009 at 03:57 AM

We will review the listing(s) you have reported for violations of our Potentially Infringing Items policies. In order to keep eBay a safe and fun place to trade, we often rely on members like you to bring such violations to our attention. :thumbup:

BeamerBob - 10-17-2009 at 06:02 AM

This is REALLY good publicity for "Jason" and his sham enterprises!:lol::P:rolleyes:

snobdr - 10-17-2009 at 06:15 AM

Really lame and should be removed.1 vote to remove it.

Bladerunner - 10-17-2009 at 08:11 AM

I am upset that he has obviously created yet another website to try and discredit us and out opinions. this eznet.biz thing + his other sham websites seem like so low as to be elligal ?

I can just see the FBI looking at their cases and deciding if PKF should be " investigated " . How do they catagorize a buggy ? WMF ? Weapon of Mass Fun. :crazy:

acampbell - 10-17-2009 at 08:21 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jason1291
This forum's reputation is on the line and it will start losing it's sponsors


He is too stupid to even notice that there are no sponsors here...

KYTE SLINGER - 10-17-2009 at 09:05 AM

:crazy:

http://cgi.ebay.com/7M-Montana-4-Parafoil-Buggy-Snow-Tractio...

Bladerunner - 10-17-2009 at 09:30 AM

WOW,

Must have to do with the link on my posts ?

Rip' is at work but I doubt that these claims are at all true ?

Ripsession does not sell HQ kites ???? :dunno:

FloRider - 10-17-2009 at 09:38 AM

This guy is a bigger scam artist than the parents of that "Falcon" kid that did/didn't take a joy ride in his dads flying saucer shaped balloon yesterday. Can you say publicity stunt?

WHATTA JOKE

BeamerBob - 10-17-2009 at 10:20 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by KYTE SLINGER
:crazy:

http://cgi.ebay.com/7M-Montana-4-Parafoil-Buggy-Snow-Tractio...


It probably didn't go back together right when it was disassembled to measure for the upcoming "NOVA II".

BeamerBob - 10-17-2009 at 10:27 AM

His listing says he bought the kite from "doomwheels" but there aren't any kites for sale there.

lad - 10-17-2009 at 10:33 AM

$1,500 for a DEFECTIVE 7m kite!?!?!
He obviously just put the auction up to just badmouth doomwheels!
I think we could be dealing with a sociopath with too much time on his hands.

Bladerunner - 10-17-2009 at 10:50 AM

Now that is RICH !:smilegrin:

Doomwheels is more a concept than a company ! Kind of hard to buy your kites from a " good idea " :rolleyes:

I knew I loved the fact this forum isn't sponsored the day I joined. I just never knew it would be this fun !:bigok:

To the best of my understanding this site is simply a person giving back to the community . A place to freely support each other with advice on the sport without commercial influence. CLEARLY a concept that Jonesband1998 seems to have trouble absorbing. :rolleyes:

FloRider - 10-17-2009 at 10:57 AM

Isn't doomwheels the superadmin on this site? I was under the impression he helped start or create this forum. It just sounds like a personal attack against anything to do with the PKF.

This guy already uses basterdized versions of our usernames to give bogus positive feedback for his products on his lame site. Next thing you know this guy will start slandering us as individuals.

ripsessionkites - 10-17-2009 at 11:12 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bladerunner
WOW,

Must have to do with the link on my posts ?

Rip' is at work but I doubt that these claims are at all true ?

Ripsession does not sell HQ kites ???? :dunno:


i sort do but only 2 models but they are custom order. if they want to produce me a receipt I would gladly return it.

flexiblade - 10-17-2009 at 11:13 AM

It sounds like the first recourse for all of us that use and enjoy this site is to follow any of the ebay links posted earlier, and post a formal complaint about this seller and their illegitimate claims about this site and the responsible sellers of kites and gear that are part of our kiting community here on the PKF.

This is what he is saying about us in the link he has on his ebay items eznet.biz/powerkiteforum.htm

This guy has been a sneaky, treacherous louse that deserves nothing more than a proper lesson in grass roots mobilizing and action - click on those links and let your voice be heard - even if you're a reader and have never posted - let your voice be counted by complaining to ebay about this individuals behavior.

ripsessionkites - 10-17-2009 at 11:19 AM

why isnt ebay doing anything about it?

you have a whole forum telling he's a fraud and we can all produce where the real kite comes from and what it should really retail for.

What more do they need???

macboy - 10-17-2009 at 12:17 PM

Complaint filed.

Maven454 - 10-17-2009 at 01:00 PM

I really think one of the admins should change the title of this thread to include the word "not".

B-Roc - 10-17-2009 at 02:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ripsessionkites
why isnt ebay doing anything about it?

you have a whole forum telling he's a fraud and we can all produce where the real kite comes from and what it should really retail for.

What more do they need???


I don't know why they aren't acting - maybe because he has hundreds of likely phoney positive feedback.

I've reported three of his ads.

WELDNGOD - 10-17-2009 at 06:58 PM

filed complaint also. Then I made an offer of one dollar on the montana. Which was declined :wee:

redtailin - 10-17-2009 at 07:02 PM

yea, i reported it as well. this sort of ting just gripes my shorts. I try really hard to get people involved in this sport. when they see good deals on ebay for this sort of thing, buy it up, then cant get it to fly and just get frustrated. then they stop trying.

redtailin - 10-17-2009 at 07:04 PM

oh, and I offered $1.50...it was declined.

dgkid78 - 10-17-2009 at 07:16 PM

I offered $1.51

bigkid - 10-17-2009 at 08:28 PM

Got to hand it to the guy, He knows what to say. How can you give a 2 year warranty on a kite?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=28038...
Look at some of the reply's he got along the way, the more you dig into his back ground the worse it looks.
Maybe we should all do some searching to see if there are any more out there. I'm glad I have nothing else better to do with my time than to look for morons like him, and I'm sure everyone else has nothing to do either.
Any lawyers in our ranks got some Ideas? Monday I'll call my Lawyers and ask some questions, see what the options are.

Kamikuza - 10-18-2009 at 02:46 AM

I'll donate $10 to your lawyers fund, bigkid ... what a little wanker theat guy is ...
If I ever won the lotto, I'd give up my job, hire some real smart guys, dedicate my life to tracking down spammers, scammers and wankers like our friend here - then hire some hard hitting hombres to get to work with pliers and a blow torch :moon:

pkf - 10-18-2009 at 02:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by carltb
...is this for real.
Of course not. I'm afraid this person doesn't realize that PKF has been around since 2003 and has never been sponsored by or biased to any kite store or manufacturer.

Please do NOT quote or repost his comments. He would like to use search engines to broadcast his complaints. Let's not aid him here.

Maven454 - 10-18-2009 at 02:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by pkf
Of course not. I'm afraid this person doesn't realize that PKF has been around since 2003 and has never been sponsored by or biased to any kite store or manufacturer.

Please do NOT quote or repost his links or comments. He would like to use search engines to broadcast his complaints. Let's not aid him here. This too shall pass.


The search engine bit is a good point. We wouldn't want to help him get a good google ranking. Quick, everyone change any link you had pointing to his ebay page :roll:

dylanj423 - 10-18-2009 at 03:37 PM

the whole reason this guy is upset is BECAUSE our discussions come up under google... someone searches for MATADORA BUGGY, google picks up on it in our forum (where we know the seller is infringing copyrights, and generally trying to misrepresent himself), and it comes up on google what a ripopff everyone thinks he is....

personally, i think everyone should know about this guy posing as legitimate.... what we need to stop posting is "______ under investigation______", not, "kyson industries and matadora kite buggy is a ripoff of legitimate businesses"....

_thephantom_ - 10-18-2009 at 03:44 PM

Think Mr Tang Thao could probably help with any queries

Enter the domain name you wish to query the whois database for information on.
www. extremekites.eznet.biz

Enter the domain name you wish to query the whois database for information on.
www. extremekites.eznet.biz
Domain Name: EZNET.BIZ
Domain ID: D21254284-BIZ
Sponsoring Registrar: FAST DOMAIN INC.
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 1154
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registrant ID: FAST-13866067
Registrant Name: Tang Thao
Registrant Organization: Kyson USA
Registrant Address1: 3909 Burke Road Suite 3613
Registrant City: Pasadena
Registrant State/Province: Texas
Registrant Postal Code: 77504
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Country Code: US
Registrant Phone Number: +1.7135171391
Registrant Email: kysonusa@yahoo.com
Administrative Contact ID: FAST-13866067
Administrative Contact Name: Tang Thao
Administrative Contact Organization: Kyson USA
Administrative Contact Address1: 3909 Burke Road Suite 3613
Administrative Contact City: Pasadena
Administrative Contact State/Province: Texas
Administrative Contact Postal Code: 77504
Administrative Contact Country: United States
Administrative Contact Country Code: US
Administrative Contact Phone Number: +1.7135171391
Administrative Contact Email: kysonusa@yahoo.com
Domain Name: EZNET.BIZ
Domain ID: D21254284-BIZ
Sponsoring Registrar: FAST DOMAIN INC.
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 1154
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registrant ID: FAST-13866067
Registrant Name: Tang Thao
Registrant Organization: Kyson USA
Registrant Address1: 3909 Burke Road Suite 3613
Registrant City: Pasadena
Registrant State/Province: Texas
Registrant Postal Code: 77504
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Country Code: US
Registrant Phone Number: +1.7135171391
Registrant Email: kysonusa@yahoo.com
Administrative Contact ID: FAST-13866067
Administrative Contact Name: Tang Thao
Administrative Contact Organization: Kyson USA
Administrative Contact Address1: 3909 Burke Road Suite 3613
Administrative Contact City: Pasadena
Administrative Contact State/Province: Texas
Administrative Contact Postal Code: 77504
Administrative Contact Country: United States
Administrative Contact Country Code: US
Administrative Contact Phone Number: +1.7135171391
Administrative Contact Email: kysonusa@yahoo.com

pkf - 10-18-2009 at 11:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dylanj423
what we need to stop posting is "______ under investigation______"...
That's precisely what I meant.

Regarding other comments... PKF is a multi-member forum platform where users are able to post their personal opinions. As stated on our rules page:
"The Power Kite Forum is provided as a free, non-biased, non-affiliated kite community resource website. All views expressed on in this forum are the views of the author of the post and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of the Power Kite Forum owners or moderators. We accept absolutely no responsibility for comments posted on this forum."

Maven454 - 10-19-2009 at 03:13 AM

Right, but if we keep posting links to his ebay pages, then those will come up higher in the google ranking (further up the search page). Thus we don't want to post links to his pages, just complaints about him.

KitelifeCom - 3-22-2010 at 12:12 PM

And the fun continues, this time they've rolled Kitelife into it...

http://www.revkites.com/forum/topic/3857-thought-yall-might-...

B-Roc - 3-22-2010 at 02:28 PM

Jonesband is a douche. He posts damaged goods for prices he knows won't sell because he probably doesn't even own the listed product solely for the purpose of slandering legitimate kite sites and businesses.

He must lead a rather pitiful life.

KitelifeCom - 3-22-2010 at 02:49 PM

Aye, total agreement.

I just compared notes with Bob, 100% match up, these guys are now on my ignore list...

Anything they do have no bearing on what we do here, except for the few poor souls who get suckered by him before tapping into a real kiting community... It is kind of nice to know I'm doing my job well enough to piss him off this much though. ;)

lad - 3-22-2010 at 03:37 PM

This dweeb has been bashing the traction kite people for a year, now he takes his fight to the Rev makers. Really, all you designers, manufacturers, retailers, et al need to:

- just get together
- chip in a little
- find a lawyer among you
and give this sociopath the ole class-action heave-ho once and for all.

Hell, video the summons delivery and any following court proceedings. Then post them pay-per-view on the web. That way you get you money back and the rest of us get a good laugh! Some of us could get together and have a Jonesbanned viewing party, like the Super Bowl!

thanson2001ok - 3-22-2010 at 09:31 PM

So what is this guy's scam on the buggies? Damaged? Knock-offs?

Kamikuza - 3-22-2010 at 10:14 PM

Knock-offs and retarded prices

WIllardTheGrey - 3-23-2010 at 12:06 AM

You forgot to mention they're CRAPPY knock-offs.

Kamikuza - 3-23-2010 at 12:09 AM

Isn't a knock-off by definition, crappy? :lol:

erratic winds - 3-23-2010 at 05:34 AM

Not necessarily, I have some counterfit addidas sambas that have outlasted every pair of real sambas I ever bought

Kamikuza - 3-23-2010 at 06:55 PM

:lol: