SWAT
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Kitewing Dirtsurfer - CRASH, CRASH, CRASH video
I thought I would post this from across the pond in the UK, I hope this is the right place.
Remember we are professionals ..... just not at this 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNZvh4dRmIY
SWAT
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BeamerBob
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OK, It's official now. I don't want one of those bat wings!
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GulfSandEater
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I'm sure having a couple of dogs trying to bite your feet doesn't help!
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Pansh Legend 3.0m, 4.5m (for sale $60)
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Pablo
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Still looks like it'd be a hoot to try out. Unfortunately the dirt surfer didn't make it to SOBB. Still up for a try though.
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Bladerunner
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Is there a reason that most folks using these are also riding dirtsurfers ?
Kites: 2.5m Profoil , Quadrifoil XL kitesurfer, NPW 5 Danger.
Flexifoil: 1.7m Sting, 4.9m Blade 3, 9m Blade 2.
Flysurfer : 19m Speed 2 SA, 7m Pulse
Peter Lynn :18m Phantom, 15m Synergy, 10m Synergy, 1200 Farc, 460 Sarc, 130 Tarc, 5m Peel, 4.2m , 6.4, 8.5 C-Quads, 3.5 LS2 single skin.
Rides: Flexi / P.L. Frankin'Buggy , Shaped + straight skiis, sand skis, Coyote blades. Core 95 ATB. RKB R2 ATB .
Ken (K2)
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Pablo
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Dirtsurfer=speed, kitewing looks like it has very little drag as well, should work together at speed quite nicely.
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SWAT
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Yup, at speed the Dirtsurfers get more stable, as do the Kitewings. They combine perfectly at speed, and the wings are totally depowerable, so the
control is incredible.
The wings have very little drag, enormous upwind capability and no problems with overtaking it (like with a kite !!)
There are plenty of videos of us doing it properly, I felt that we ought to show ourselves getting it wrong to check the ego's !!!!!
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PrairieWind
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SWAT and the gang at www.wingsurfer.co.uk have a great sense of humour. That is evident in the crash vid. They have plenty of videos of them doing very nice speed
runs - they are on the verge of breaking 50mph on the british beaches. Quite a feat.
The kitewing is very easy to use, much easier than a kite - especially in high winds. It is my high wind weapon of choice. If you check out the
instructional video on the www.kitewing.com website you'll see how easy it is.
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BeamerBob
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I've seen guys doing it right. It's just that this video shows all the ways I could screw up learning how to do it. Something about your lower pivot
point being at your ankles and the power being supplied over your head. I'm 6'4 so the wing would have a ot of leverage on me. Put that in the mix
with learning at slow speeds where the dirt surfer isn't quite in it's element and I would be falling all over myself. I feel like I could learn the
dirt surfer on a down hill and then progress to a kite and then maybe to the wing. Big learning curve I imagine.
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Pablo
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I'd probably combine it with an ATB until I got the wing figured out, then move on to a DS once I'm comfortable with the wing and starting to pick up
speed.
PS: passing with a kite is easy, simply wedge yourself in just down wind with the kite low, they've got no choice but to raise their sail and back out
of it.
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SWAT
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That video was compiled over 2 years, it is actually a lot easier than you might think.
Best to learn the DS downhill first, then learn the wing on an ATB, then combine the two.
Pablo - "back out of it" - not in a Kitewingers vocabulary - sorry !!!!! - We'll just slice your lines 
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Pablo
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Gotta catch me first.
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SWAT
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No problem, I'll stop and wait !!!
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Pablo
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Your top speed with a dirt surfer/wing combo?
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SWAT
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48.7 mph (78.4 kph) - in about 18 knots !! - More wind more speed !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbPhXdivAx8
It gets a bit exciting on two wheels on sand cos at that speed both wheels start sliding !!!
Lots of buggiers have gone over 50 on sand, we are the closest on two wheels.
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Pablo
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Well, it'd be close then, so far my best to date is 45.6mph, that's with my Brooza. could have done more with a better wind angle on the beach though.
Still have to see what I can wring out of my race kites though. At 45mph the Libra feels rock solid, some slight vibration from the front tire with
the BF tires, dead smooth with the barrows on the playa. But no where near kicking out on me.
Then I made the mistake of riding JEllis's new buggy, avoid it at all costs, that thing is so stable and smooth it's just stupid. You completely lose
the "Oh Poop" factor and it leaves you craving more power. Once you ride it you'll be put off "normal buggies" for life.
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SWAT
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Hey, BeamerBob - you could learn to dirtsurf on that lovely golf course where you live, I am sure they wouldn't mind !!!
If anyone is ever over in the UK - and would like a session with a DS and Kitewing - drop me a line.
Our beach has about a mile stretch of flat sand, but the wind has to be a perfect SSW for our speed attempts - a 20knot SW can only get us to just
over 40mph, an 18 knot SSW can get us to nearly 50 - so fingers crossed for a 30 knot SSW 
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BeamerBob
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That's a great idea! I could entertain the rich and famous on the veranda under the big oak tree, while they sip their tea. The first hole has a
nice steady dropoff and the grass is so smooth. When I get better, I could ride from the green on 18. I need to pick up a board and pop over there
during lunch today. I'm excited already. I'll let you know how it goes.: I
hope there aren't any golfers in the way. That would break my concentration.:
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PL Phantom 12m, 15m, Big Blu 24m+, Synergy 10m, Venom 10m, 13m , Phantom II 12m Vapors 3.8, 5.4, Crosskite Sonic 7m, PKD Combat 10.3m
Uturn Butane 2.5m PKD Buster 3m Genetrix Hydra 7m Ozone Yakuza GT 14m
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