yes on the wings topside will be tapered a bit, gonna go flat, seems good starting point and dress the remaining edges down as far as i can.
to do in AL not that much more... after glass and hardware around $100-125. carbon or aramide can add 3x as much .
a la carte parts are ready to go from different companies for foil. LF fish seems all around good as any having the straps already there just will
make getting started easier, hopefully!
I'm a little slow I guess. What did you buy? What did you make? Your going to do fiberglass work on the wood? You bought a board that's made for a
foil? Thanks!
Coastal Wind Sports Team Rider Landsegler Disc wheels
PTW Hero Buggy - XXtreme ApeXX Buggy US 88 - Libre Hardcore IvanpahBuggyExpo.com Youtube link
Bob Muse
HQ Montana X 8m, Montana IX 12m, HQ Ignition LEI 5m,
PL Phantom 12m, 15m, Big Blu 24m+, Synergy 10m, Venom 10m, 13m , Phantom II 12m Vapors 3.8, 5.4, Crosskite Sonic 7m, PKD Combat 10.3m
Uturn Butane 2.5m PKD Buster 3m Genetrix Hydra 7m Ozone Yakuza GT 14m
I'm a little slow I guess. What did you buy? What did you make? Your going to do fiberglass work on the wood? You bought a board that's made for a
foil? Thanks!
I understood him to mean he bought the LF Foil Fish board (left) and home-brewed a version of its companion foil (right).
ATB,
Sam
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was 12 - Jesus, does anyone?" - The Body by Stephen King
west marine is local here with limited shelf stuff and could use what they have, but looks like i am gonna go with TAP online , specific glass choices
and #314 resin and 109 catalyst
I've ridden AirChair foils behind the boat and as sensitive as they were for me, I don't see how they work for a stand on board. If you get a few
things not quite right I imagine it will be like a boat anchor hanging off the board. I hope it works! Chalk one up for the little guy.
Coastal Wind Sports Team Rider Landsegler Disc wheels
PTW Hero Buggy - XXtreme ApeXX Buggy US 88 - Libre Hardcore IvanpahBuggyExpo.com Youtube link
Bob Muse
HQ Montana X 8m, Montana IX 12m, HQ Ignition LEI 5m,
PL Phantom 12m, 15m, Big Blu 24m+, Synergy 10m, Venom 10m, 13m , Phantom II 12m Vapors 3.8, 5.4, Crosskite Sonic 7m, PKD Combat 10.3m
Uturn Butane 2.5m PKD Buster 3m Genetrix Hydra 7m Ozone Yakuza GT 14m
I was talking to a fellow the other day who was telling me how the Okanagon crew had a " trainer ? foil that they passed around. I guess it was
shorter / smaller? Sped up the whole crews progression.
If you are learning and building you may want to consider making a smaller one as well?
yes BR , a short mast version is a consideration. the mast is at 900mm now and maybe, make a shorty mast to feel it out with at first. 600/650mm.
but my gut is to go with the platform i am to ride . in this DIY version, making the mast a bit shorter might extend its lifespan as well so
750-800mm may be final. we'll see??, once i really dig into the shaping before glassing i will know... esp. once i get the board with it.
and in general, the drag alone will make it a bit clumsy and slow. this is mostly so i can learn and go out in decent wind with a strapped "heavy
board" not a squirrelly light one which would just beat me up! in my directional sessions, when i went out in solid air they where SOOO much
better than the sketchy light air sessions. it means about 20 hours of good TT wind for me to learn, then fit the foil sessions in the marginal
TT/ and good ATB wind... which is a considerable amount of my riding. so if i like this, i will lessen ATB riding for more foil time.
Sounds like you are on top of the game.
The way the guy described it is like what you expect. Learning foil handling was easier with the small one but as soon as each person was up and going
they went straight to a more efficient foil.
Kami makes a good point. These guys all learned on a lake. You may NEED a longer foil to deal with your surf?
surf/chop action is a factor 6-8 foot rollers and mega chop can be very rough here, so i want the height eventually , but for now i want just enough
stupid in the wings so it not stupid fast! hopefully as build comes together, and some fly time comes out of it, by the end of summer ready to buy a
tricked out foil.. the fish board actually my prove fun by itself!
Mate, the new Slingshot HoverGlide looks like a better foil, and is the same price! But I got mine cheap so it's moot...
My advice:
At least wear a helmet.
> I landed on the board or something after bailing, and cut my head
Find a spot with decently deep water, where you can just jump in.
> Our spot, you have to fight out through waist- to chest-deep water for about 600m before you can try riding the board without grounding. I did 90
minutes on day one: maybe 10 of which was attempting to ride
(If you have the LF board and straps) set the straps to the widest holes, and the longest they'll go ie. the holes at the end of the straps.
> Apparently, the board is well-balanced with the straps centered, but you want to be able to bail easily, especially the rear foot. Being able to
slide the back foot forward in the strap as you waterstart helps, and is easier than riding with the rear foot out of and in front the strap, as
people have suggested is a good way to learn.
First sessions, you're going to want to learn to body drag if it's shallow, and then ride the board with the foil in water, concentrating on keeping
the nose down.
> See above. It comes up so easy and feels so weird, even if you're used to directionals!
Stick to the foil until you've got a good grasp on it. Going back and to a different board is too weird.
got the fish yesterday, nice board for 300$! definitely will ride ASAP!
i did set the straps as wide as possible , like you mentioned.
the build is coming along for the foil, i set the mast at 750 and working through the cut back.
i have added carbon weave as well to the build . really digging the build ATM .
now that i have the board i can set the to plate holes and move along.
the ride will be fun and new , the straps to me seem a hindrance in general but i 'll get it sorted and see if buying a production foil is in the
phuture
Hey phree,
I made a foil and used G10 for the wings. I really suggest you try that. It's not hard at all to sand the G10. I used a liquid force mast and made a
fuselage out of 3/4 x 3/4 solid aluminum square stock. It was not difficult at all.
I could walk you through the steps if you wanted.
My only regrets:
I think I should hade made a lower aspect ratio wing set up. Really I should have simply made two sets of wing because it's not hard to to. Should
have made a low aspect set to learn on.
Also I should have made a second longer fuselage to compliment the lower aspect wings. Would have had more stability to learn on also.
Ps. I ride only strapless surfboard, but tried first time strapless foil, and it was a disaster! I ended up using one strap for front foot SUPER
loose. So loose that all it does is hold the board while you get ready to start.
hey thanks, i actually have the AL stock from other projects and considered using same and may still, the G-10 is still a consideration some old
windsurf fins i have keep reminding me too.
the mock-up shape base in oak is mostly for design, lines and holes in general, and to finish it out ---> carbon/S-glass has been the choice up
til now. since i just got the board now i'm ready to order build junk, so your post is timely reminder to all options. funny the AL i have is 1"X
1/2 and is already marked to be cut for fuselage !
the whole carbon/glass build and vacuum bag thing is an element i want to learn/practice more for several other projects so by next week i will
have an order ready. might as well add G-10 in there too.
i have the same thoughts about the multiple sets as well. nice tidy set you have there . i set my fuselage at 750mm i felt the length would make
lift more gradual without being sensitive. its a thought no practice yet! we 'll see.
definitely interested in the #'s you have . thanks!
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