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alf
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windweapon is heavy...
i hav tried to lighten it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQl4yrkPB1I
austin wing weights not 3 kg i guess
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Me too.
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alf
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a sup wing foldable like an umbrella could be stored in seconds on the roof
then paddlle again
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hav you triewd without mast foot, hand held like a windskate ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mZUdKL_uNg
those windskate can be folded veru fast , convenient for sup use
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Yes. I didn't attach mine to the board but it was easier to rest it on the board. The original one was too small to power the SUP very well so I
made a larger one. It was rather awkward but worked fairly well. Still rather slow because it was pretty small as well - about 2M. It probably
worked better than kites of that size, however. This video shows the larger wing I made and shows how I held it by hands to turn. It folded up as
well.
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alf
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VERY NICE
a rogallo hang glider with diadrehal like a kitewing is maybe worth a try
it coud be very poweful
https://www.google.fr/search?q=ROGALLO+HANG+GLIDER&rlz=1...
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I've been thinking the same thing. :-)
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it was very difficult to do with nasawings, but easy with a street star
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_RvQm_oKMc&t=
i think the kite will relaunch with enough wind
it s perfect for supers as you can fold it on the roof in seconds , what inflatable kites cant do
with harnees and 4 beaufort it will be fast
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Good one Alf!
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alf
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the best for a street star would be a four lines kite controller ( wich allows the kite to depower )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEsNbfRqEl0
if it doesnt relaunch under long lines you can shorten the lines and relaunch
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It seems like he quit making the 4 line controller and doesn't sell them know. I wonder if there was a problem with it.
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/29746473@N04/42948801170/in/ph...
5sqm propels the mountAinboard too
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/273411904242
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Hey Alf,
Pretty cool. This is sort of a mix between a kite and a sail, but works well.
https://vimeo.com/291124909
Going off the wind is harder with a SUP though. For my kayak it goes off the wind pretty well.
https://vimeo.com/286877331
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your system seems to work sidewind too
why are sups worst upwind than kayaks ?
i never could do better than sidewind
my kite is not 5 but 3 sqm
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I am not sure why SUP are not as good as Kayak. I can get may 20 degree off the wind with SUP, maybe 60 with my kayak. This shows a good kayak
track. The kayak does slip downwind because It has no rudder or centerboard, though I am getting better at it all the time.
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What was the direction off the wind ?
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North east but it varied a lot.
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You can fly them so they are kites - not sails.
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just saw the last message
it looks like a flying umbrella
seems to be an intersting solution
wich angle upwind can you go when you kite it ? i think windsurf go 30 degre from wind
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They are purely downwind sails, but they go off the wind quite well. My kayak has no rudder or fin, but I can sail 65 degrees off the wind using the
round sail. It is basically a parachute but the flexible round spar gives it a much higher l/d than a parachute. Flown as a kite it is not very easy
to control but I didn't try it for long - it was just an experiment.
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a double sail from the eighties
the mast can be released for jibing and kitewing use
https://www.imgrumweb.com/hashtag/lesaquaplaneursassocies?fb...
i will try this with my two delta kites
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Kites in a train have been used for a while with buggies at least. We had one guy with 3 stunt kites in a train pulling his buggy at Jibe a few years
ago. It is at about 1:35 on this video. I have never seen a train used with SUP though.
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i will do a biplan kitewing with two delta kite so i have 5 sqm
2 bambo in V like on this double wing
kite train is great have to try too but my delta kites can t be steared like traction kites
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Tent kitewing.
I will buy folding poles so it feets in my bag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA2iS6cQXzA&app=desktop
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i will try with a skimboard
the sail makes river skimboarding doable up and downstream
https://vimeo.com/12634152
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That guy must be really good.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNPhdFi6X68&fbclid=IwAR0...
i wanna paddle the loire again this summer, and skim kite with short lines in swallow waters it seems not to be difficult
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ_REQY1C4U
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Here you go Alf
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i hav skated and suped 10 years ago with a poncho , holding the low end in hands, this creates a round front sail
it works even upwind but needs a good wind
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https://www.facebook.com/kitechino/videos/327049261342114/Uz...
i hope to do the same with my peak or streetstar , but with inflatable sup no foil
btw, born kite is working on a water star single skin kite for water use.
that will be so good ...
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