they are pricey, 2500+ . i have considerable info on my home computer. dimension, width,ride height etc... i will most likely make my own . i
like Horue just off the top of my head.
the old "air chair" stuff is what i am after, beginner stable , available .
Do not start with the narrow version those are race, the more shovel-like the better, so yes there are progressions in shape from beginner to race .
my friend is getting one, don't think he has yet but i got his race board so things are moving along. like the race board kinda have to start in a
bit heavier air than your ideal target breeze to work control out. with light air having its own tedious nature this seemingly may take a year or 2
to really be practiced at it to give any usable advice for application. in the next 6 months i will have much more experience and can convey more.
so brand recommendations ? don't know . i 'll post some stuff i have that helped me in starting to get into it. i do know strapless surf is a
progressive skill builder for it.
well yeah the ride is easy, but tack roll trans. hi speed jibes stuff like that require some practice but more so the for and aft speed control
stuff and lighter kite touch in light air riding in general.
Alright boys and girls. I listened to Chicago crew on their experience with Carafino lasting backorder in 2014 so I've chosen and went for MHL Lift.
I'm sure both of brands make great gear.
Carbon is beautiful on mine
Time to learn and deny/confirm/substantiate what I've understood about hydrofoiling so far:
Pros:
- "flying carpet" feeling
- "if your kite flies, you ride", which for me is 3.5-4 knots
- quiet ride, no noise from your own wake. Because no wake
- unbelievable upwind
- all the chop goes under the board, not hitting you
Cons:
- don't go shallow places
- helmet is a must, protection is a must
- re-learning riding technique (front foot pressure, not leaning but sliding turning)
It's been a while but I only got out three times with the foil so even though I feel that I owe an update there's much more to achieve yet.
- up and foiling on third session. Out of three 2.5 were attempts to just ride without foiling. The learning curve is not as bad as "relearning kiting
again" but suddenly boardstarts are a challenge
- kite takes more attention again since you fly kite trimmed in and depowered on the edge between pull and falling out of the sky. At least in the
beginning but overall it takes so little power to go
- once you can ride board on water there comes "dolphin effect" and yet more wipeouts
- the moment foil gets on the surface or into the chop you hear "the hiss" and have split of a second to recover or loose all the lift and wipe out
- when you fall off the board you better fall far from it, ahead of it and upwind of it
- board by itself turns directly downwind and gains quite a speed pushed by waves
- can't control speed by edging. There's no edging, only depower
- you go upwind without any effort, all the time, regardless all the wipeouts, any tack takes you upwind
- "magic carpet" feeling is unreal. Hoverboard-like
- quiet, silent ride! You hear lines whistle and chop break
My goal for that day was to ride the board and get a feel for how it runs with the drag from the foil... as per SS's suggestion in a video. Then let
the speed drive the foil and resist it coming up with front foot pressure, rather than try to pop it up asap.
Good advice, I got 2 good runs on the foil at close of my session... OMG OMG OMG hey this is cool imma gunna buy one SPLASH
cool stuff, can't wait to get going, my buddy rides his all the time, i am considering building my own with a short mast and then add taller as i
wire things up. looking to get it together hopefully by winter /spring. land board sessions keep stealing me away!
...i am considering building my own with a short mast and then add taller as i wire things up...
From what I know a short mast is needed in shallow places like OBX and SPI to not hit the bottom all the time. From learning curve perspective the
long mast is good and quick enough right away. The downside of a short mast is foil getting out of water (riding tall or getting into chop) when
cavitation kicks in (you can hear that hissing sound) resulting in complete loss of the lift and falling over.
Also used foils get really affordable, might save a lot of efforts and time
I tried to buy a few used ones but they sell so fast, LF Aluminum set up by far cheapest . i know i can build one lighter and faster than LF set up
, actually having the LF to learn on and if i'm really digging it, eventually build a faster one...kinda how i do things.
my buddy has MHL and a trial run is ready to go when i'm ready so... if i find a great deal, and i'm always looking , i wouldn't build one, but
i need projects like that sometimes. it keeps the pace of "just buying more stuff" at bay and allows acquisition AND use to be very deliberate ...i
can barely decide to use TT or ATB in one session, completely ignoring my surfboard so this will only confound my dilemma.
the build would be fun , the ride i know is gonna get me! i'm still stoked on riding my strapless! one will find me, i have confidence.
" i'm still stoked on riding my strapless! one will find me, i have confidence."
i'm sure one will find it's your way sooner or later. It is nice to have a couple disciplines. I'm stoked on strapless as well, jut not water next i need strapless snow skate
- moved straps forward to reduce the "dolphin effect" and it helped a lot. I can apply more pressure to the rear foot now and not have to push like
crazy on the from one
- can start without wiping out, consistently
- can foil for extended distance
- I love foiling
I'm riding 2013 MHL Lift. It's beautiful carbon setup, the mast/fuselage/wings set weigh 7.2 lbs. The board is carbon wrapped as well and is pretty
light too compared to compression Fish boards.
What I specifically admire about it is the fuselage doesn't have the "spear tips" on the front and tail of it - the hydrofoil is dangerous enough to
add more sharp edges.
Wow...pricey stuff! You guys seem to have endless $$$$ to spend on toys!
I bought a brand-new Core 95 land board and got it for half-off delivered free for a total of $230 and thought THAT was extravagant!
Frank
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Trip to OBX doubled foiling sessions I've had in a past year. I used to ride the foil "flat vertical" and now I can "edge" (actually lean back) and
push. Upwind is mindblowing. The board no longer feels bulky and I tighten the straps for more control (instead of going strapless on rear foot
Thinking of getting a Slingshot set with 24" mast as I'm getting ready to go back to OBX. Hitting bottom is no fun.
Great man, TT is stealing my sessions! But adding distance every outing, yesterday I was TT'ing and my buddy was foiling jibes effortlessly, he got
about a year on it and is form is a solid and a great model to watch. Comfortable conditions helps for sure
Last few sessions I decided to put my back foot in front of the strap, almost above the mast. Resulted in even more stable and faster rides and back
foot is strapless now. Felt quite easy.
I've had a challenging session past Sunday:
- light and unstable wind so kite would fall from zenith, had to loop it to keep line in tension and kite flying. You know, one of those awkward
lightwind sessions when you have to trim in so kite flies at all.
- bunch of motorboats and jet skis cruising around (it's Sunday) and to top it off a sailing race going on. Too much traffic while having to pilot the
kite excessively.
- I took the back strap off which made it look cooler however with that I lost my point of reference. Keeping my back foot in front of the strap I was
also pushing on it a bit. I'm missing a little "kicker" for my back foot now.
- replaced front strap with NSI Kling On hook. That funny happy feeling riding "technically strapless". Had couple of tacks and promised myself to
enjoy it a bit later, too many changes at once are not good. Strapless is definitely harder, certainly less board control on pitch and yaw but foiling
strapless looks so tempting. Apparently not as hard to boardstart as I thought it would be.
And to make it worse I pumped my new 12m kite which I got couple of weeks ago to find out that central strut valve is leaking. Came home, inflated the
kite to find that all three struts are leaking...bummer. Valve donut time I guess
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I bought a brand-new Core 95 land board and got it for half-off delivered free for a total of $230 and thought THAT was extravagant!