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[*] posted on 6-6-2014 at 01:06 PM


not a lot of breeze but I flew it for a bit after work.. It'll see some serious air time tomorrow at Jockey's Ridge though. This kite is going to be a lot of fun for me...



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[*] posted on 6-6-2014 at 01:26 PM


nice! :thumbup:



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[*] posted on 6-10-2014 at 07:08 PM


Yep, Now I want another one,, or two ...or three.....



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[*] posted on 7-20-2014 at 04:51 PM


OK This is addictive.. Really like the Rev kite for recreational flying..



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[*] posted on 7-20-2014 at 05:16 PM


Read this thread again & thought I would mention my avatar picture is a vented kite on a power kite forum! The kite is a 1.5 B mid-vent. It is definitely a kite from the Dark Side. If you want to learn more about four line kite flying you might want to try a Revolution kite for a bit. I was on the big power kite path & got distracted by them. But lately I am flying two line sport kites. The big full size ones, 96" across the tips, can easily pull you down the beach. It's all good in the KiteLife.
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[*] posted on 8-16-2014 at 02:43 PM


Had some time for the Rev Stack today.. These kites get more fun every time I fly..



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[*] posted on 8-29-2014 at 11:09 PM


And for some video..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r_a7E-7ho4




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[*] posted on 8-30-2014 at 03:40 AM


Get the EXP or 1.5 - it's between $100-$150 for a full used set and it'll get you satisfied and probably addicted. Once addicted get a 1.5/barresi and another one vented. One with 2-wrap spars, another with 3-wrap spars (don't get SLE spars). In addition to 80' line set you might want to get 50' and/or 120' lines. Try other Revs, buy them when truly addicted only. Then you'll end up owning them all and many of same type but different pattern/age. :) Stacks pull a lot, look good and are boring.
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[*] posted on 8-30-2014 at 05:30 AM


I really like the stack.. It has both the EXP & the 1.5.. And several different frames.



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[*] posted on 8-30-2014 at 05:31 AM


Nice one riff, I definitely need to get a rev.
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[*] posted on 8-30-2014 at 05:59 AM


cool vid!



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[*] posted on 8-30-2014 at 09:32 AM


Flew a borrowed loaner Rev 1 last weekend. Had a ball with it, and would buy a 1, 1.5, or other, but just can't justify the $308 retail asking price for new.

honestly I think their factory fixed pricing structure keeps the Revs in an "exclusive" flying membership club.


when you look at a power foil, there is a ton of sewing on huge amount of cells of fabric, sewn leaders, bridle work, engineering of foil shape, and such.


I just don't see where $300-400 is justified for a starter rev, for a very little bit of fabric and a couple carbon spars.



If I find one used (or if someone here has one they'd like to sell) I'd buy it in a heartbeat, at 1/2 off of new.........





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[*] posted on 8-30-2014 at 09:53 AM


I very much agree with the seemingly excessive price points but deals can be had in the used market.. You can get a used Rev in"last year's colors" for around half of retail.. I got an awesome deal on the stack or I wouldn't have picked it up that day.

I'm halfway tempted to buy one of the copies just to do a comparison...





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[*] posted on 8-30-2014 at 11:03 AM


I'm not sure the price is excessive. I'm pretty sure they are made here in America and from all accounts are the best quad kite on the market. I think they have set themselves apart enough quality wise so they have earned the premium price they charge. Having said that, I have not flown one but I'm going off the research I've done.
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[*] posted on 8-30-2014 at 12:35 PM


Riff Clown, please do buy a clone, to give an accurate opinion. Yeah they're $89 on ebay with lines.


Please No soapboxing "but china is taking money away from Amurica businesses?"


and............yes you get what you pay for.


but just like Harbor Freight Tools and their $10 air ratchet / die grinder, compared to a $100-150 air tools made in usa or other such labeling (geez Boeing is totally overseas with Fuji heavy industries or Mitsubishi for whole complete wings and body sections for the 787 flying them in on the aptly named "dream lifter"), same with Ford/Cheby/Dodge getting alternators made in mexico and other parts made in Canada........


market / price-point will determine sales; irregardless of product.

trust me I like to support the local little guy in town whenever I can. Ace Hardware and Coast to Coast hardware, customer support is top notch, unlike Lowes or Home Depot.


feel free to discuss.



show me a link to a Rev site, that has used kites listed for sale, I've been looking and haven't found such.

I'd love a real Rev, but the $90 clone for something I fly 2-3-4 times a year most likely would work just fine for my application as a solo flier, no I have no desire to become a team member of I-Quad or other Sync'd flying.....


was cool though last Oregon Kite festival I was at, they had FOURTEEN revs flying in a "follow the leader" conga line and pattern......




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[*] posted on 8-30-2014 at 01:14 PM


Used Revs pop up HERE quite often..



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[*] posted on 8-30-2014 at 01:17 PM


The price of a new rev is too steep for me personally as well. But that's only because power kiting and kite buggy are my main hobby and I already have a lot invested in that. If I were more of a stunt kite flier than 3 or 4 hundred would be a drop in the bucket compared to what power kiters spend on their hobby. I would guess that most of their customers are stunt kite fliers and not power kiters. I could be wrong.
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[*] posted on 8-30-2014 at 03:47 PM


I got a SLE 1.5 to play with. Really helped build some skilz too.




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[*] posted on 8-30-2014 at 08:21 PM


Ditto to all above statements!! Rev's got me hooked on kiting back in 1997ish!! Love thgem used to fly a 5 satck and I could feel the potential powert if I let the stackj take control!! That's the beauty of Rev's 100% control over what they give!! Very "Obedient" Kites!!
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[*] posted on 8-30-2014 at 08:21 PM


Ditto to all above statements!! Rev's got me hooked on kiting back in 1997ish!! Love thgem used to fly a 5 satck and I could feel the potential powert if I let the stackj take control!! That's the beauty of Rev's 100% control over what they give!! Very "Obedient" Kites!!
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[*] posted on 3-9-2016 at 09:07 PM


I've decided I need a rev for myself and to get the kids flying again. They seem to prefer the stunt kites over the power kites. I know, I've failed somewhere along the line :)

What type and size for inland flying?
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[*] posted on 3-10-2016 at 05:57 AM


It's a beginning, they'll get there, don't worry.

Depending on how much you want to spend obviously but here I'd put 11 years of revs experience condensed:

- rev 1.5 is ideal size and shape. Rev I and Power Revs pull too much to fly them really sharp. Rev II is to quick and too small to fly sharp. They fly but not as precise, not as much fun. The Zen is too much money for the lightwind
- out of Rev Exp / Rev 1.5 / Barresi / NYM - pick what you can afford, they're all pretty close. I started with Exp, I consider 1.5 golden, it's a bit lighter
- if you can afford two kites, get one regular 1.5 and one vented for high winds
- if you can afford two sets of spars get a 3-wrap for regular and 2-wrap for lightwind. 4-wrap for high wind maybe as the last extra, maybe. Even with two wings regular/vented don't overload the kite - rather fly vented with 2-wrap spars but don't do regular with 4-wrap. Don't bother yourself about green race spars or SLE spars.
- a regular, 90'x90# set of spectra lines is default good. A 50' would be handy to fly on a tiny beach or in a street. 120' set is competition set, not sure if needed at all, maybe for flying through a dog stake, but nah, why. Oh, don't get the "sport grade" lines which used to come with the EXPs - those are a bit springy, comparatively.
- get 13" handles right away. The usual 10' is kinda ok, but deficient once you try the 13"

It's really hard to break a rev - give them all to try it and get more addicts to the sport please!

So minimalistic but great set - rev 1.5 regular with 3-wrap spars, 13" handles and 90'x90# lines
Extra buck spent - 2-wrap spar set for lightwind
Extra buck spent - 50' lines for flying small spaces
Extra buck spent - rev 1.5 vented

I've had so many of them and I'm down to
Rev 1.5 regular, rev 1.5 barresi full vented, 2-wrap/3-wrap/4-wrap spar sets, 13" handles, 50'/90'/120' line set.

I also keep prehistoric SLE 3-wrap LE set but it's as useless as 120' line set. These two things would be gone first if I had to free up space in the bag. Next thing to go would be 4-wrap spar set.

Quote: Originally posted by ssayre  
I've decided I need a rev for myself and to get the kids flying again. They seem to prefer the stunt kites over the power kites. I know, I've failed somewhere along the line :)

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[*] posted on 3-10-2016 at 08:17 AM


Thanks! Getting one has been in the back of my mind for awhile and my kids already have 4 line fb experience so they aren't total noobs to kite flying. It looks like it would be a blast to take along on picnics or camping or just a day at the park with the family
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[*] posted on 3-10-2016 at 08:28 AM


For me it tuned down to:
- If I can't ride lower than the lightwind, I'll fly the regular 1.5 with 2-wrap spar set. If it barely flies - I can't go back ride yet and I practice precision flying
- when I feel a steady pull in the 1.5 regular, I ditch it and go to ride on water

but I'd take my revs to a park/beach occasionally anyways
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[*] posted on 4-5-2016 at 06:15 AM


And here I was trying to figure out what kite to buy for this summer...



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[*] posted on 4-5-2016 at 05:49 PM


I got all that good stuff. I would like to know which knot your using on the handles. I'm having problems doing the real slow stuff. I have watched all the Barassi videos but its not helping. This will be my 3rd years and I'm at a stand still. I wanted to sign up for Barassi classes but the airfare was a killer. Any advise appreciated.




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[*] posted on 4-5-2016 at 06:00 PM


I truly don't do anything special knot wise that I know of.. Standard larks head. The same way I attach the power kites to the handles.. When it comes to the Revs, I still consider myself a novice ot intermediate flyer..

Kitelife has a lot of nice tutorials
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[*] posted on 4-5-2016 at 06:01 PM


Quote: Originally posted by ssayre  
I've decided I need a rev for myself and to get the kids flying again. They seem to prefer the stunt kites over the power kites. I know, I've failed somewhere along the line :)

What type and size for inland flying?



First Rev.. EXP is a good start.. Can be had for under $200 new. I bought my first Rev from Bladerunner. An SLE.




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Quote: Originally posted by riffclown  
I truly don't do anything special knot wise that I know of.. Standard larks head. The same way I attach the power kites to the handles.. When it comes to the Revs, I still consider myself a novice ot intermediate flyer..

Kitelife has a lot of nice tutorials
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ9acIB-sWM


Each handle has a 6" line at the top with 6 knots. These are adjustment points which affect the handling of the kite.

The first 2 knots nearest the handle provide the greated drive.
The middle 2 knots provide a balanced tuning between forward and reverse.
The last 2 knots furthest from the handle provide the most reverse.

I saw the video.. How John handles the kite at the 10 second mark id what I'm having problems with. I'll get there some day





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[*] posted on 4-5-2016 at 06:55 PM


OH. Sorry.. I maximize reverse to give the nice dive stops.. I don't even think about that setup for the most part.



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