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coreykite
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Registered: 12-23-2003
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Pre-Event 2013
Hey Sailors,
Looking to explore options. After last year at Harper's (and all the ruts and holes) and as we can't use Superior any more, and Elmer's charges a fee
and has been wet the past 2-3 years... I've been looking a bit afield.
Red Lake in Arizona is pretty nice. Off US Hwy 93 between Vegas and Kingman, AZ, Red Lake is huge. Some 40+ s/m and nearly round, Red is dotted with
bays and inlets and terrain choices. About 25 miles from the highway (#93) keeps looky-loos at bay. Paved (Stockton Rd) road all the way to the
shoreline. Access for RV's and city cars. No facilities.
Check it out on Googlemaps and let me know what you think.
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BeamerBob
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Location: Down on the bayou
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Might be a good choice since its closer to Vegas. I've had my eye on this spot since you pointed it put to me in the spring. I won't make the pre
event this year I imagine but the school schedule has me set for the full Monty at nabx.
Coastal Wind Sports Team Rider
Landsegler Disc wheels
PTW Hero Buggy - XXtreme ApeXX Buggy US 88 - Libre Hardcore
IvanpahBuggyExpo.com
Youtube link
Bob Muse
HQ Montana X 8m, Montana IX 12m, HQ Ignition LEI 5m,
PL Phantom 12m, 15m, Big Blu 24m+, Synergy 10m, Venom 10m, 13m , Phantom II 12m Vapors 3.8, 5.4, Crosskite Sonic 7m, PKD Combat 10.3m
Uturn Butane 2.5m PKD Buster 3m Genetrix Hydra 7m Ozone Yakuza GT 14m
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markite
Posts: 1769
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Location: Cambridge, ON, Canada
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and it's getting closer to the Grand Canyon where the Skywalk is if visitors wanted to go a little further for site seeing - also get to see Hoover
dam etc. I remember driving by and looking down at it but haven't been on it - sounds like it might be a good choice for something different.
Mark Groshens NAPKA KC 13
WindSpeed kites & design - Canada
Peter Lynn Arcs: Charger2 22.5 +18 + 15 + 6.5, Charger I 6, Scorpion 16 + 10, Phantom II 12 + 9, Orig Phantom 9 + 6, Synergy 10 + 8, F 1200, S 840
Ocean Rodeo: Flite 17 + 12, Rise 13 + 10 + 7, Razor 9 + 6
Foils: PL Leopards and Lynx, Airea Raptors, some PL Reactor IIs + IIIs, Libre Spirits, Cross Kite Sonics, Ozone Flow
Peter Lynn Kite Cat for cruising the lakes
buggies: PL XR+, Cameleon Pagona, custom bigfoot, PL Bigfoot, custom ice buggy
Boards: 2 custom directionals, O.R Surf series 6-3 and 5-11, Mako Duke, Mako Skinny, Mako 140 Wide, Mako 150 Wide, Mako King, Brunotti
lots of old school skis, snowboard
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flyjump
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Registered: 4-7-2009
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What are the dates for the pre event this year?
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SlasherQuan
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Registered: 9-25-2008
Location: Phoenix
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it works better for me....Takes less time to get to Kingman from PHX, Barstow is almost 6 hours, Kingman is like 3. Harpers is troublesome not only
cause of bumps and such but the surface there is softer and those of us with heavier buggies have a harder time. I'm down for Red lake
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Ramij2
Posts: 25
Registered: 6-2-2009
Location: Fillmore, CA
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Mood: Can\'t wait anymore for Nabx.
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Lets not blame the buggy!
Some of us don't have the luxury of owning top rated equipment. We just have to make do with what we have. So I learned to buggy on a Datsun of a
buggy. Which gave me the understanding of how pilot and maneuver a lot better than if I would have started with the Maserati of a buggy. But, now that
I do have a Maserati I can appreciate its full potential. So, don't blame the buggy for lack of skill. By the way Harper's was pertty nice last time I
was there. On the other hand it would be awesome to venture out of my comfort zone!
--Engines--
Cabrinha - 12.0m Nitro
FlexiFoil - Stacker 6\'
HQ - 7.0m Montana
Ozone - 1.5m Little Devil
Ozone - 3.0m Little Devil
Ozone - 5.0m Flow
Sling Shot - 2.0m Trainer on Bar
Steve Shapson - 2.8m Force 10 Foil
Stylus - 3.0m P.3
--Rides--
Libra buggy
MBS Comp 95 Mountain Board
Naish Kite Board
PL STD Kite Buggy
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awindofchange
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Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
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Been to Red Lake a couple times, it is pretty awesome. It has large flat areas for plenty of speed runs plus it has some hilly areas that can be fun
to tool around on and play. It is right off the highway, just pull in from the paved road, throw your gear out and ride.
With the new bypass over the dam on the highway, getting to Red Lake is now about 30-40 minutes faster from Vegas. It's about a 1.5 hour drive from
Vegas and very close to Kingman for those that may want to grab a cheap room in town.
I think that would be a great location for the Pre-Event.
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geokite
Posts: 483
Registered: 2-26-2004
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Can't wait. One of my tabs in Chrome is set to the map of the area. Looks like a great buggy spot, as long as it is smooth. Anyone know the dates
yet? Antsy...
Steve Bateman
Arcs: P:6,9,12m; Syn:8,10,12 V2:8m
PL Monster Buggy, 1994 Flexi buggy (original owner)
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gbrown
Posts: 75
Registered: 12-30-2006
Location: Milford, Ohio
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The lake looks good from the maps. Coming from the east it will save us time and money. Also when we leave and head to NABX we can stop at storage
shed and pick up stuff which might save a trip later.
But for our friends from Calif it will add that time and cost.
Biology says we will grow old
Nothing says we need to grow up
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chris
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Registered: 1-27-2005
Location: Outer Banks of North Carolina
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Mood: Inducing camber
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Looks cool.
Red Lake
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geokite
Posts: 483
Registered: 2-26-2004
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Mood: name is mud...
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I hope it is smoother than THAT. Bumpity bump bump on my rumpity rump rump.
Steve Bateman
Arcs: P:6,9,12m; Syn:8,10,12 V2:8m
PL Monster Buggy, 1994 Flexi buggy (original owner)
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KAZEDOKA
Posts: 199
Registered: 2-8-2010
Location: ABQ, NM
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Awesome area, the location i sailed Memorial Day week end was at mile marker 36.Stockton hill rd. The surface was pristine 5Mi X 5Mi. B/4 My arrival
Blokart enthusiasts Mark established a new world speed record, utube video- Blokart world record to view the area and surface. Enjoy
Randy; 2x NPW9,
Fighter kites
Flex Rage 2.5,3.5,Blurr 5 A Few Vapors
P/L Reactor II 3.5, P/L Core 5.1
LEI, Best Warroo 5.0 7.0 10.0 Blokart S/S Pro, XXtreme ApeXX-W/BF & Discs
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ChefCarl
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prepare to feast ..I am going to pre-event!!
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ripsessionkites
Posts: 4043
Registered: 10-17-2006
Location: California, Las Vegas
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Mood: retired until racing starts
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Going this year, finally
Less baggage too
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Cerebite
Posts: 328
Registered: 5-6-2011
Location: China Lake Yacht Club
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Mood: Is he using the same wind we are?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by flyjump
What are the dates for the pre event this year? |
^^ What he said. So if the event starts on 3 April is it safe to assume/ plan that the pre event will start on 30 or 31 March?
NASA wings -1 to 12m [mostly KM4]
Foils -2 -12m [mostly PL & Pansh]
VTT Stinger on Midi's
Another day in Paradise...
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KitePwr
Posts: 59
Registered: 3-27-2007
Location: Santa Clara, CA
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ChefCarl
prepare to feast ..I am going to pre-event!! |
It's a longer drive for us (an extra 4 hours or so) but its something new to try out and that's where ChefCarls going to be so that's where we will be
too 
Sounds like a great new place to play.
Darrin
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bigkid
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Registered: 4-12-2009
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I was looking at going to the pre event and googled the new bridge at the dam and now I am not to sure I want to go, I can get the motorhome down the
bridge but up the other side will be a bit tough.
Appex buggy, Libre hardcore buggies.
Flexboardz. Blokarts.
PKD Century Soulflys. NPW's. Nasa Stars.
A few other less flown oddballs,
Line sets from 10" to 328" or 2m to 100m.
worlds only AQR that works.
North American distributor for PKD.
"Kite Bugging is not an addiction until you try to quit".
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BeamerBob
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Location: Down on the bayou
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When the wind blows it fills back up. No problem!
Coastal Wind Sports Team Rider
Landsegler Disc wheels
PTW Hero Buggy - XXtreme ApeXX Buggy US 88 - Libre Hardcore
IvanpahBuggyExpo.com
Youtube link
Bob Muse
HQ Montana X 8m, Montana IX 12m, HQ Ignition LEI 5m,
PL Phantom 12m, 15m, Big Blu 24m+, Synergy 10m, Venom 10m, 13m , Phantom II 12m Vapors 3.8, 5.4, Crosskite Sonic 7m, PKD Combat 10.3m
Uturn Butane 2.5m PKD Buster 3m Genetrix Hydra 7m Ozone Yakuza GT 14m
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Cerebite
Posts: 328
Registered: 5-6-2011
Location: China Lake Yacht Club
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Mood: Is he using the same wind we are?
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On behalf of my industry I would like to apologize for that BigKid et al  
GIS geek mode on --- in order for satellite imagery to be geographically accurate it is mathematically tied to a digital elevation model [DEM] or
digital terrain model [DTM]. Like the name suggests this is a mathematical model of the surface of the earth usually derived from stereo image pairs
or radar mapping. It takes a lot of work, either human or computer, to then go in and adjust the model to the true ground rather than the "surface"
created by man features such as bridges or buildings. In this case it could be corrected by making what is know as a surface model so that the
"shape" of the ground follows the bridge for that 20m width rather than the canyon floor.--- GIS geek mode off 
You can now return to your regularly scheduled discussion of what playgrounds we are going to overrun in March and April
NASA wings -1 to 12m [mostly KM4]
Foils -2 -12m [mostly PL & Pansh]
VTT Stinger on Midi's
Another day in Paradise...
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jeepersjoey
Posts: 454
Registered: 1-1-2012
Location: Denvah Dahlin'
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Excellent John.
You throw out the Geek-Speak and shut down all posts.
Let's start this post back up.
Me and John are going to Red Lake. Who's in with US!?!?
If the buggies are stationary than the REVs will be chasing each other!
Peter Lynn - Resurrected Vapors (thanks to Tenacious Tape): 3.2, 3.8, 4.5, 5.4m. Size 2.3m (dead) - all internal bellows shredded
Pansh - Cerberus - 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.5, 9m. (red)
Peter Lynn - Viper - 2.6m
Flexifoil - Rage - Rasta 1.8, 2.5 (dead), 3.5 (dead), 4.7 (v2). New backup of 2.5m and 3.5m.
Ozone - Method 6.5m (w/ Ozone Turbo Bar)
Libre - Bora - Yellow 3.0 & 4.5 (both on their last breath of life)
Peter Lynn - C-Quad - 6.3
HQ - NPW9: 3.4 & 5.3. NPW5: 1.0
Buggies (Kite and Land)
#1 Buggy: Libre Full-Race
#2 Buggy: Peter Lynn Suspension buggy
#3 Sailer: Homemade Land Sailer
#4 Buggy: Windspeed Pro Ivanpah Buggy named Bruce (because he weighs 130 lbs!!)
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Morrie Williams
Posts: 594
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Location: Westport, WA
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Kelci and I "should" be there the afternoon of Friday Mar 29th.
Morrie Williams
Westport, WA, USA
Peter Lynn Comp Buggy
Peter Lynn Peel 5m, 10m
QuadTrac 3m, 6m, 9m
SkyTiger Hi 10, Hi 15, Hi 30, Hi 60
C-Quad 2.2m, 3.2m, 4.2m
Peter Lynn - Reactor II 3.5m, 6.9m
NAPKA - US86
Blokart with 2m, 3m, 4m, 5.5m sails
NABSA - us89nw
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Wolfpaklv
Posts: 176
Registered: 5-1-2008
Location: Las Vegas, Nv
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Red Lake is Amazing. It is 5 miles by 5 miles of terrain. There are some bumpy spots, some smooth spots, a hill to climb with your buggy, and a crack
of doom. Make sure you familiarize your self with the crack. It is a 3-4' drop in to it otherwise. I hit it once going about 35mph. Luckily it was
full of water otherwise...who knows how bad I would have been hurt.
You guys are gonna love this place. It is amazing!
Brian Holgate
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gbrown
Posts: 75
Registered: 12-30-2006
Location: Milford, Ohio
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It is getting time to make final plans for our trip to the west. A lot of people wonder about the pre-event which is very much dependent on weather
and when people can come and where they are coming from. Chip and I have decided that we will be at Red Lake probable early am on Friday the 29th and
staying till ??? We decided this because coming from the east it is really on the way and we have not been there yet and the people who have say it is
great.
We know we might miss some our friends who come from the west and will probably stop at El Mirage but we will see you at Ivanpah.
if you want to join us great but this is primitive camping you only have what you bring and we leave nothing there.
I will have my 5th wheel and have small grill you can cook on. Also we will have tools and a compressor for fixes.
Looking forward for my annual time to land sail and be with friends and family.
Biology says we will grow old
Nothing says we need to grow up
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jeepersjoey
Posts: 454
Registered: 1-1-2012
Location: Denvah Dahlin'
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John (Cerebite) should be there Thursday late or early Friday.
I should be there Friday late.
See you then!
Peter Lynn - Resurrected Vapors (thanks to Tenacious Tape): 3.2, 3.8, 4.5, 5.4m. Size 2.3m (dead) - all internal bellows shredded
Pansh - Cerberus - 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.5, 9m. (red)
Peter Lynn - Viper - 2.6m
Flexifoil - Rage - Rasta 1.8, 2.5 (dead), 3.5 (dead), 4.7 (v2). New backup of 2.5m and 3.5m.
Ozone - Method 6.5m (w/ Ozone Turbo Bar)
Libre - Bora - Yellow 3.0 & 4.5 (both on their last breath of life)
Peter Lynn - C-Quad - 6.3
HQ - NPW9: 3.4 & 5.3. NPW5: 1.0
Buggies (Kite and Land)
#1 Buggy: Libre Full-Race
#2 Buggy: Peter Lynn Suspension buggy
#3 Sailer: Homemade Land Sailer
#4 Buggy: Windspeed Pro Ivanpah Buggy named Bruce (because he weighs 130 lbs!!)
Paul's Photo Album
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Craig Sparkes
Posts: 69
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Location: UK, & Travelling Globe
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It pleases me to think that in 1 week a kite will be back in the air on a dry lake.
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Morrie Williams
Posts: 594
Registered: 2-21-2004
Location: Westport, WA
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gbrown
if you want to join us great but this is primitive camping you only have what you bring and we leave nothing there.
I will have my 5th wheel and have small grill you can cook on. Also we will have tools and a compressor for fixes.
Looking forward for my annual time to land sail and be with friends and family. |
Kelci and I will be there at Red Lake afternoon or early evening of Friday the 29th. See everyone soon!
Morrie Williams
Westport, WA, USA
Peter Lynn Comp Buggy
Peter Lynn Peel 5m, 10m
QuadTrac 3m, 6m, 9m
SkyTiger Hi 10, Hi 15, Hi 30, Hi 60
C-Quad 2.2m, 3.2m, 4.2m
Peter Lynn - Reactor II 3.5m, 6.9m
NAPKA - US86
Blokart with 2m, 3m, 4m, 5.5m sails
NABSA - us89nw
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KitePwr
Posts: 59
Registered: 3-27-2007
Location: Santa Clara, CA
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We will take Wed as a travel day and be out there (pending Corey's report  ) on
Thursday.
Darrin and Susie
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SlasherQuan
Posts: 95
Registered: 9-25-2008
Location: Phoenix
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Plan to be there Wednesday.....sometime.....I will be on Vacation so I'm in no real hurry.
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coreykite
Posts: 568
Registered: 12-23-2003
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Hey Sailors,
I made it up to Red Lake on the 24th.
Real nice and smooth.
Ready to have a swarm of wind worshipers ride across.
Directions from Vegas:
About 70 miles south on Hwy 93 (towards Kingman AZ)
Some 50 miles south of the dam.
Turn east on Mojave Co, N25 at Dolan Springs.
(The route to the Grand Canyon Skywalk)
Signs says: Pierce Ferry Rd. / Dolan Springs / Meadview
There is a grocery and two restaurants in Dolan Springs but no gas station.
Proceed to mile marker 22 and turn south (right) onto Stockton Hill Rd.
About 5-6 miles to the lake bed access.
We'll meet up about a mile out.
This is primitive camping - No water, no bathrooms, no restaurants or hotels, no nothing except what you bring.
We tend to share and feed each other.
Please plan on sharing and helping feed each other.
Safen Up! Buggy On!
"Often wrong... Never in doubt"
the coreylama - Lord-Mayor of Buggytown
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awindofchange
Posts: 1945
Registered: 3-14-2006
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
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If I recall, Kingman is only about 15-20 miles east of there. They have full services with hotels and all if anyone needs. Please don't quote me on
the distance, but I know it is not that far from Red Lake.
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