Power Kite Forum

Jojo RM+ vs. Ozone Yakuza

Ashe - 22-4-2008 at 08:13 AM

Anyone have experience with both of these kites? Would really like to hear a comparison.

centex_buggier - 22-4-2008 at 08:02 PM

I'm thinkin you just opened a can of worms. I can't wait to hear what everyone has to say
:singing:
Steve.

ripsessionkites - 22-4-2008 at 08:13 PM

contact Eli

or come to SOBB in September to try all the different brands out.

sunset-Jim - 22-4-2008 at 09:16 PM

IMHO, it really comes down to personal preference. They are both top of the line race kites that have a small group of others that are in the same category. Whenever I'm asked this question, I compare it to asking a truck guy which is better, fords or chevys? There might be just a few others that are just as good. But IMO, there isn't anything that's actually better (except for maybe in price). But you usually get what you pay for.

awindofchange - 23-4-2008 at 10:55 AM

Jim, I think your analogy would be better comparing a Lamborghini to a Ferrari....but I am not sure which one would be the Ferrari..... :) The deciding factor might just be a color thang!

As Jim said, either one of these kites will give you the top performing kite on the market. In most cases these kites are much better than the pilots are able to give them. I personally prefer the Yakuza's but I would really hesitate on saying which one was actually "better" than the other. I am sure that Eli, Adam or any of the other highly experienced race pilots would beat me with either kite regardless of what I am flying...but I feel I might give them a good race none-the-less.

I have always said that kites have a personality and that personality needs to meld with the pilot for the match to be as good as it could be. Your best bet is to fly each one before deciding which one will mesh perfectly with your personality. I still think that after personally flying each kite it will be hard to choose which one to buy.

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jellis - 23-4-2008 at 01:08 PM

:singing:m OH OH OH I know which one!!!!!!! Ferrai because lambos are lame.............:frog:

Ashe - 23-4-2008 at 06:53 PM

Maybe I should add a little framing here - would either one be better suited for inland buggy use? I've heard that they're not stable, though the reviews complaining about their performance in lumpy winds were for the prior models; the Jojo RM (not RM+) and the Ozone Razor.

As expensive as they are, they're cheaper than using an equivalent-pull (not necessarily sq/mtr) Speed2. The other thing I suspect with that solution for buggy-power is that the Flysurfer Speed2 is quite lifty, and as I've been told by people who try to race with Blades, that lift when overhead translates to too-much downwind pull/drift when at speed in a buggy...but I may be way off.

Ashe

centex_buggier - 23-4-2008 at 08:29 PM

Both the RM+ and Yakuza are more stable in gusty conditions than their predecessors. I think that was the biggest improvement in both cases. The RM+ is less likely to bowtie, overfly or surge in a gust than the RM and I think the same can be said for the Yakuza. I know the hardest kite to fly in gusty conditions was the Razor. It was far less stable than the RM, but had better up wind performance. This is probably why you saw the negative reviews for inland conditions.

In the case of the RM/RM+, with the added stability you have to move up a size to get the same power. In ortherwords a RM+4 has about the same power as an RM3. I have not flown the bigger race kites, but I can tell you that the smaller RM+ does well in inland conditions where the winds are gusty and change direction.

YAKUZA COMPARISON

USA_Eli_A - 24-4-2008 at 10:09 AM

THINK MCLAREN F1 WHEN YOU THINK YAKUZA.

IT'S LIGHT. ITS FAST. AND IT IS NOT FOR BEGINNERS.

NOTHING ELSE MATTERS. HIGH END IS HIGH END. IF YOU START MESSING WITH JOJO+ OR YAKUZAS YOU SHOULD PRACTICE IN PERFECT WINDS.

I TOOK A 10M JOJO+ DOWN WITH A 6M YAKUZA IF THAT HELPS!

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jellis - 24-4-2008 at 05:29 PM

Quote:
ELi Said
"I TOOK A 10M JOJO+ DOWN WITH A 6M YAKUZA IF THAT HELPS!
"
Jon Said
LMAO LMAO&ROTF cutting their lines does not count...............
Once again your out classed :evil:

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USA_Eli_A - 24-4-2008 at 05:39 PM

welp, bring it on.....i'm always ready......

jellis - 24-4-2008 at 05:45 PM

name the time and place, title for title...........:singing:

USA_Eli_A - 24-4-2008 at 05:50 PM

uh oh....it's on.....what title will you be sporting? the wanna be title?:singing:

you know i'm joking...no blow karts though...'kite' buggying only...

it might be time to head to head tho....you gotta away from me once, not sure if that'll happen again....:ticking:

jellis - 24-4-2008 at 05:57 PM

Nope, kite lines and handles plus $1000 from you against my JoJo, lines an handles. That way the value is even.

USA_Eli_A - 24-4-2008 at 05:59 PM

if those jojos comes with fry sauce and a steak and the proceeds go to the special olympics, I'll give you a thousand bucks for a race....

jellis - 24-4-2008 at 06:12 PM

:duh::ticking::P:moon::o:frog::spin::singing:

USA_Eli_A - 24-4-2008 at 06:23 PM

:moon::thumbdown::moon::thumbdown:
:thumbup::moon::thumbup::moon:

Sthrasher38 - 24-4-2008 at 07:18 PM

You guy's are to much!:lol: Will you hurry up and race already so I can choose The one I will get next! I have been interested in both theses kites. Hell all top of the line kites lately my quiver needs to be more solid. I belive a few major purchases will lead to less purchases. Maybe.

centex_buggier - 24-4-2008 at 07:52 PM

I told you this was going to get ugly.
Comon guys set up a race :D:D

Steve.

gross213 - 24-4-2008 at 08:59 PM

Can't wait to see this one. It just happens to be a club 10 weekend at wash away this weekend. will either of you be there? :flaming:

jellis - 24-4-2008 at 09:05 PM

I am at Moab UT's April Action Car Show right now and will be at Pismo Beach CA May 1st thru the 8th if you can catch me.:evil:

ripsessionkites - 25-4-2008 at 04:08 AM

i wanna join in the racing fun too. have fun at Prismo. :thumbup:

USA_Eli_A - 25-4-2008 at 10:25 AM

ELLIS is a 'sleeper'......the most race ready and a great example of super clean and fast! but i am a buggy racer always, rec rider 2nd, "now you see me...now you don't.....abracadabra holmes"

"AMERICANS ARE INTO SPEED....HOT NASTY SPEED"---elenor roosevelt

Sthrasher38 - 25-4-2008 at 07:38 PM

Eli, It's saturday did the harness get sent out this week?

USA_Eli_A - 26-4-2008 at 10:45 AM

elvis has left the building. it went out yesterday. should of shipped to...enjoy...

wher was I.....yeah ellis.....you smell golden crisp comin from my kitchen.....shake-n-bake!

Sthrasher38 - 26-4-2008 at 12:27 PM

:lol: jojo rm+ Yak! What sizes? This should be a sick a@# race.

USA_Eli_A - 26-4-2008 at 01:29 PM

my fav yaks are the 4-6m on 20m lines.....the 3.4 is good, but i eat too many pies....get the 12m for the ultimate < 5mph kite.....

i have stock comin in if you want to buy here...hook it up and service it for life!

USA_Eli_A - 26-4-2008 at 01:29 PM

i like the + 7m & 14m..... if you want unbias eli

jellis - 26-4-2008 at 09:24 PM

unbiased my :moon: My RM+'s will fly circles around you, welp! :P

USA_Eli_A - 27-4-2008 at 10:56 AM

not gonna happen....buy ozone, it smells better.....:lol:

Sthrasher38 - 28-4-2008 at 07:07 AM

4m Yak! Huhm....