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fresh 2015 RPM 12m by SS

PHREERIDER - 5-21-2015 at 06:23 PM

Totally fresh in the plastic, 2015 RPM 12m and 23m lined 20" Compstick featuring the pulleyless bridle. the go to unit and size for here with current and 15-25mph sweet spot.

tough build top to bottom. I love the lines and bar ,

the center lines safety is fine, but twist thing ... it adds stress to the line, within 20 minutes its wound tight.. can't work with that i dropped the 2012 version and added saftey at swivel with a proper stop.

data on the scene .


the spot,
a falling tide and offshore W (not the look you want but, fresh goods and decent gust made short work of it). the big gust would put me back up in a nice rotation from 1:30 til 5. things turn WNW and turned to crap despite the arrival of low tide at 5/6. had to wait on the gust bus a few times but normal for the spot.

12m for my 200# and TT 142 misfit SS and a couple laps with sweet potato surf board 6' quad.

the bar has the magic weighty feel with all day grip comfort no real change from old but has decent size depower hole thru thebar for loaded hard direction. safety ends pulls are present and seemingly same as old it is a wear point at OS pull ring, the metal abraids it , will add plastic at chaff point.

the lines that come on the comp bar are just the best. big beefy fronts, best on the market and thess are at 23m.

comp stick has below bar trim and actually workable. tidy push away safety , and thru CL safety hook as well...the twist!

Canopy is thick on TE, and it has this panel on the wing tip not sure on function/enhancement , but can be felt at the bar when pull in slowly, high frequency vibration, i'm sure its special, anyway, nicely padded LE with big caliber pump fill. AND no pulleys , which has been replaced with a small heavy bungee connection. it works and i'm fine with that. i use the freestyle connection and 2nd from the end bar pressure.

up wind like mad when you wanted it, ran about 50% trimmed in.

amazingly powerful pop and fast, quick snap loops. send that joker back deep at speed BOOM!

totally welcomed the gust! and data represents the range it best fits into flat/light chop.

unit works well on land with ATB , you just have to run at higher speeds for the magic pop to happen. i really only use this kite for water, it will just last longer that way.


ssayre - 5-21-2015 at 06:41 PM

just watched a video on the compstick. Looks pretty slick. Looks like you were well powered from the data

PHREERIDER - 5-21-2015 at 07:02 PM

with the out going tide i need it all. the compstick has had some improvements the center hole does not have the laminated plastic bits so its all solid and should be kind to the depower line. hopefully. the lines are stout , may old set with 1000's of hours on them still looks good. they old rpm was tearing appart ...but lines remain.

PHREERIDER - 5-23-2015 at 05:01 PM

pass 3 days scored a solid 10 hours on this fresh unit ...only issue is the swivel sticcks a bit and the safety center twist.

a little larger arc shape than the 2012 and fraction larger , 2012 12m was (11.5m) 2015 certainly more , like 12.5 maybe .

data on today 12-5pm


we are frontside with side to side on with a falling tide

full on sweeet spot for this 12m

and said unit in action and yours truly

the yellow may have to go , esp. the arrows.

heres a look at the arc shape

PHREERIDER - 5-28-2015 at 07:24 PM


weekend boosting for the wife on my fresh 2015 RPM...she takes direction well!

1oldkid - 5-28-2015 at 07:55 PM

Great shot! :cool:

PHREERIDER - 5-29-2015 at 05:16 AM

thanks! despite some focus issues on the telephoto, i am very much grateful for her attendance!

ssayre - 5-29-2015 at 06:50 PM

Wow, that's an awesome shot! What were the winds like.

PHREERIDER - 5-29-2015 at 08:55 PM

believe it was 5-23

click on link, scroll to graph , out about 12-5pm


thanks man!

PHREERIDER - 6-8-2015 at 07:12 PM

damn , depower line breaks! about a mile out !

only about 25hours on it, i knew it would go but man I checked when i set up and thought it still looked good! and an hour later it snaps.

pics soon.

so the old 2012 comes out to finish the next hour, but a nice comparison back to back.

the 2015 definitely has early firing lift and more lift in general. the 2012 a tiny fraction slower and somehow softer at bar not quite as direct but close. on upwind POS pinching hard , the 2015 has destinct ultra peak power location at bout 60 degrees or so up the window and the 2012 has it some but vague location, actually more pinch power lower in the window. just remember the 2012 is an amazing unit without a doubt , but very destinctive improvements in this kite development, impressed with that fo sho! but the busted depower line is kind of a downer on the bar/line interaction ...and i was watching it! no casing/core warning , all snap.

5-20-2015 to 6-8-2015 < 25 hours depower line snaps( guess we'll see how this goes) early in the kites life for failure.

this may get painfully old

Proletariat - 6-11-2015 at 12:44 PM

Man that's some good info, Chad. Great pics! Did you fly back on after your depow line snapped or did you have to dump it ?

PHREERIDER - 6-11-2015 at 07:15 PM

kite dropped to safety instantly, so i reeled to kite , and sail float in laying on board. pretty decent wind so i zoomed in fairly quick once sorted and moving. nice life guard patrol ran me back to launch spot once i was in, which was sweet indeed! so i was still fresh for more thats when i put up the old 12m

right back to it next day and today!

the the loop and release are slight different , the new one has more screws . the 2012 was nice single piece cast unit. not sure why ...the clamcleat is better and its a seperate piece as well. the release cover on the old is tough even going into a blown out center . we see.

the twist on the safety requires attention about every 30 min to unclip leash esp. after running down the line about a mile , the swivel is ratchety stiff and requires some kick around attention sometimes, but minor in general.

thanks man

jet ramping , the misfit 142 defacing one wave,

thats TYBEE island, GA in the background

ssayre - 6-11-2015 at 07:27 PM

Looks awesome. That's surprising about the depow line. It looks like depow lines on lei rigs are way beefier than my peak. My peaks depow line looks frayed and ready to go anytime but somehow hangs on

PHREERIDER - 6-11-2015 at 07:40 PM

i was running down this sailboat and went around it several times, loop boosting to the rattle limits of the unit, then on heading back less than a minute on the way, snap. surprise works for me

PHREERIDER - 6-25-2015 at 12:59 PM

here a few pics of bar/depower line and a bar modification to reduce line bite

the 2 pc. anchor within CL and lines with about 30 hours on them and obvious shredding...note line twist at center line safety in image as well

original bar / same lines as above

original bar with high exit lip

bar mod , top lip has been reduced and chamfered away from center

bar mod top veiw

and the center line safety CSS twist

PHREERIDER - 6-27-2015 at 08:11 AM

scored a 4 hour session yeaterday 2-6pm on modded bar set up. line still looks virgin! vast improvement on the wear issue for my style of riding


..and looks to be same today as well

ssayre - 6-28-2015 at 12:42 PM

Nice. Always, nice to mod something that works better than original. Nice wind too, gusts in the 30's

PHREERIDER - 6-28-2015 at 02:12 PM

custom! only way to go. i have to touch EVERYTHING !

definitely some huge peaks for 12m , the best portion was at high tide so flat wash to rampage was major !

PHREERIDER - 7-2-2015 at 07:15 PM

wow blasting session today! the roughest frontside water on a SW ...like 4- 6 foot chop ! top all whited out and ragged.

with full intentions of tuning in DLX FS 12m after first warm up on the 12m RPM i would switch the speed 3 . first leg out start about 3 and get back about 5:30 way over powered! , straight to my 9m and within and hour over powered on that! then wrapped about 7pm

think the meter may have been jacked! a tybee rhodes bouy would have fantastic data , no luck on that yet

heres regular spot i use. some moss may have hit it or something

into galescape!

heres a close meter but we are 15 miles closer to the wicked cell flyby. but has same with decent peaks


TEDWESLEY - 7-4-2015 at 04:44 PM

Nice shots of you taking flight

Dang clean kite as well
Love the way you fly!

PHREERIDER - 7-5-2015 at 04:56 PM

right on ! TED thanks man!

PHREERIDER - 7-21-2015 at 09:01 AM

at the 90 hour mark with this unit, bar mod has proven worthy, depower line in riding without complaint, most recent session yesterday , the comfortable high end of the range for this unit. A 9m could have easily pulled this session, but as tide pushed back in i needed the extra near the finish.

heres a look at data 4-7pm , pretty decent peak making for nuclear boost and loops , all this mixed with 4-6ft+ rollers and obscene amount of megachop which fuels the boostphest to practically no end.


PHREERIDER - 8-17-2015 at 03:01 PM

heres a looking at SS depower line replication , and the set up at the bottom the old line, a new line , and 2 Amsteel marked and ready to go....oh and a fresh FS depower with the left over from the remaing 20ft section, its fraction thicker than stock i think 5/16" and stock is 5/6mm.

taper end marks

the finished ends , the OME from SS has the stitching, most advise the stitching adds nothing to strength and i agree, but it does keep the set up in place while slack , so i did add the stitching in same manner and tension.

i have a FS mixer, front leader set done as well in 3/8" (or i think they are 4mm) Amsteel .

anyway PHUN with Amsteel!

unit has about 110hours on it now and only one real glitch happened just a few days ago, gonna give SS another 24 hours to respond so the story is straight. or at least what role they play in it. definitely suprised me...kinda already repaired it and keep things rolling, time for shipping and lame crap like that is time wasted

PHREERIDER - 8-19-2015 at 12:07 PM

hi SS! welcome to wear the tire meets the road! warranty folks maybe looking about, everybody smile and play nice!

PHREERIDER - 8-19-2015 at 12:32 PM

ok last week packing this unit up I noticed seam ripped open on the under side of the LE , roughly 5" in length. there was no bladder herniation or rupture there, but HUGE disappointment , go to image...

no crashes or violent endings or things like that. just at the end of the session air goes out as i'm rolling it up I see this. blown away as to WTF is going on!

so right to pics and reflexive repair ASAP. and AND as I open it up I notice the next seam joint on the LE toward center its pulled and hinting of separation as well. I fix it . and session on. TOTALLY PISSED....perfect time for warranty! right ?

the first NEW KITE I lay down cash for is jacked 100 hours out of the gate. yep....ok SS promises to show up when junk goes lame within 1 yr. warranty.

if I jammed and busted it, I"M OWNING IT. but its not the case.

...and the 30 min repair ain't the problem...

wheres warranty SS?, NOW IS YOUR TIME!

PHREERIDER - 8-19-2015 at 04:12 PM

here we got second issue , as far as failure point, it is in the interseam, not within material failure as on split/rip in first pic.

its position on the kite is a joint section closer to center, on under side of LE

PHREERIDER - 8-20-2015 at 07:16 AM

SS is giving me the "oh now that you fixed it there's nothing we can do "

can u believe that load!

bomb proof !?! what a joke , maybe a firecracker.

SO i have a new kite thats jacked, through no fault of my own, thats now freshly repaired.

i'm so pissed about this, not about the kite , not about the repair...

the hollow promise of help ...

things have not changed depsite buying BRAND NEW KITE, thats now splitting open, and now has a repair/s within 90 days of service.

what a lame, weak AZZ warranty load they got going. they are already to pass on helping the product out.


wow this could get tedious ...105 pics and only the first week ...

producing what represents a good or great product is easy and backing it up is just as easy. ...apparently the promise of warranty and its application is in need of remediation.

and to the benefit of the community here , indeed a tedious dissection of panel measurements, stitch placement, backing placement and all that cool stuff under the unfortunate situation of premature failure of this unit...that is not under warranty.

so WHERE'S THE WARRANTY SLINGSHOT may get old, but i'll keep it phresh, PROMISE!

ssayre - 8-20-2015 at 07:58 AM

Man that's a bummer with a brand new unit. You have done a lot to kite and bar already. If your fixing constantly than there isn't much point of brand new it doesn't appear.

How did you splice depow line? Brummel lock or just fed through itself and stitched?

PHREERIDER - 8-20-2015 at 09:45 AM

slingshot warranty is a crap load. this RPM is a lemon and at this point SS still failing at coverage on product as promised.

very sad. i will never buy a new SLINGSHOT kite, did i mention that?

the depower line/bar is a personal choice there. that is a long bury splice without a brummel lock, but i did stitch it.

the fact that the SLINGSHOT kite is now splitting apart and they as of yet to indicate any interest in replacement is totally weak, but hey time may change that. LE panel may have been stitched short and produced a tight stress section within LE panel...hmmm.

thanks for tuning in , despite me going thru an angry patch about ,what up to this point, the absent support SLINGSHOT has but i am learning what SLINGSHOT is teaching me about new ... new has been redefined as "SOON TO BE REPAIRED GARBAGE" from slingshot, but i guess up to this point thats where we are at folks....time and pressure spit this one out quick!

more exciting elements to come! as it breaks down(oh expectations are low now) i will continue to learn and share my experience , and repair it! at least... til the warranty period is over or perhaps longer, it only seems fair.

PHREERIDER - 8-21-2015 at 04:29 AM

SLINGSHOT is coming thru with fresh unit! ah, all are spared from the lemon squeezing.

way to rock it TRINA! @ Slingshot

TEDWESLEY - 8-22-2015 at 07:08 AM

Nothing like a good nudge on the forum to tweak the thought process at Slingshot.
Glad that it is working out for you!

ssayre - 8-23-2015 at 07:35 AM

The question is will the replacement hold up better than the first one? I assume you have to return the first one so you can't use for parts?

PHREERIDER - 8-23-2015 at 06:22 PM

Quote: Originally posted by ssayre  
The question is will the replacement hold up better than the first one? I assume you have to return the first one so you can't use for parts?

hope so! time will tell, i have confidence, the 2012 had about 2000 hours on it. the original unit ...warranty would not be there if stuff like this did not happen , things break... protocol is to return for inspection, assement and replacement if warranted. i'm sure grateful for the outcome. i kept the bar and line set.

PHREERIDER - 8-23-2015 at 06:59 PM

Quote: Originally posted by TEDWESLEY  
Nothing like a good nudge on the forum to tweak the thought process at Slingshot.
Glad that it is working out for you!

they know what works , just an everyday rider with champion support.

PHREERIDER - 8-28-2015 at 01:43 PM

WORD and DEED! SLINGSHOT DELIVERS! one bagged virgin unit. mad respect for SS.

the hollow changed to SOLID! at this very point boys and girls

PHREERIDER - 8-29-2015 at 04:50 PM

out on couple hours this day, and unit is out of the bag ready , pump and go! beat it to port royal sound from the folly . deeply sweet sail out to the sand bar breakers in between. and strange north wind in summer thats usable!


PHREERIDER - 9-11-2015 at 07:43 AM

Banged out several sessions on this new unit.

An actual full session strapless surf, amazing how much easier it is with decent power. Turns are so much flow friendly with solid juice. That is a FireWire sweet potato 6' quad Finn.

And about 2 hours on sweet azz trampa

And yesterday TT foam party deluxe with ramp boosting to no end ...then the lightening shuts all down

PHREERIDER - 1-15-2016 at 07:18 PM

banged out super session ! 12-4pm SW in a galescape situation right out the gate! super side shore power drive right down the throat 6-8 ft back to back hammering into wash every punch thru was a gut check for the first hour holy wave cracking !

data on the seen:


something alot like this(though this was summer its purely for post enhancement )

PHREERIDER - 1-23-2016 at 05:28 PM

super cold session today on the water , also working through first heavy depower line on 12m RPM. all solid!

finally got some time on an 8m repaired out of salvage , joker is quick !


data on the seen


ssayre - 1-23-2016 at 08:13 PM

wind graph looked crazy. Looked gusty. Was it?

PHREERIDER - 1-23-2016 at 09:05 PM

pretty typical off shore west wind for us. very gusty , some dead spots. some gust would just snatch you off the water. if its sunny it tends to be smoother, this was cloudy with chance of flurries. sometimes it just comes in rough.

PHREERIDER - 2-8-2016 at 09:51 AM

deep into winter sessions, nice blast yesterday 1-4pm

friend wore a GPS , we had 36 miles of cold azz water ...max speed 32mph!

all TT action, he was on a 10m, i was on 9m

42 degrees start, water 52 degrees. data on the scene is weak may have shadowed meter a bit. on a 9m usually means 25kts plus for me, it was super gusty off shore WNW in calibogue sound.

max speed really surprised me!

ssayre - 2-8-2016 at 09:59 AM

Nice! very windy here yesterday as well. Our gusts topped out around 36 with very steady mid to high 20's

PHREERIDER - 2-8-2016 at 05:42 PM

25-35 yep... sounds about right

PHREERIDER - 2-24-2016 at 04:57 PM

super banging session ! holy crap. king sized rodeo!

couple hours on this serious pressure drop, and its FEBRUARY!


ssayre - 2-24-2016 at 05:03 PM

Some pretty serious gusts. Was that on the 12m?

PHREERIDER - 2-24-2016 at 05:30 PM

I hung on my 9m the whole session but there where a few stretches about 20min each that were pure madness, effortless crazy big airs, i wanted to stop and get my 8m shorty setup but i just held on , the current push with incoming tide was so powerful really needed extra power, then when things really heated up EVERY punch through was a gut check with 30-40ft boost off the smallest piece of chop i could manage to pick out and if it was 6 ft roller coming in ramp path it was down right violent if i had even a little speed ...insane! praying for a lull of 30!

ssayre - 2-24-2016 at 05:34 PM

:cool: Makes me feel like I haven't even felt real power from a kite yet :(

PHREERIDER - 2-24-2016 at 06:29 PM

trust your experience! , just like i trust the fear that guides me...sometimes preparation just takes time to embrace more scope of the elements. besides you said "YET" you know exactly where you are going with skill and experience.

run the numbers on the risk ..then hit the gas! preparation starts paying !

Kamikuza - 2-24-2016 at 10:42 PM

I'm looking for a new kite...was considering trying bout the RPM until I saw this :D they're supposed to be good with the foil too...

PHREERIDER - 2-25-2016 at 06:54 AM

KK the rpm 2015 is the shizzle, no doubt , my experience on the first one shouldn't derail you. they backed it up 100% !

amazing units , would buy another without a thought. this is a great kite that EVERYBODY tries to put out a similar iteration.

PHREERIDER - 2-25-2016 at 05:18 PM

one more time , this time offshore AND flat! 3-5pm, also 2 windsurfers in the crew doing wickedly fast passes,,,and fun was had by all

the look, slack low to rising tide, coming in from the West for offshore. http://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboa...

9m + TT

with bonus time on the fish (foil) board , the straps are just in the way. fun board, way more nimble than my sweet potato firewire SB definitely see whiy folks like it.

PHREERIDER - 3-3-2016 at 07:06 PM

super session today , beautiful emerald green ocean indicating spring is blooming! chased out to a running sailboat headed into tybee rhodes roughly 12mile trip, to see it was a about a 50' ketch. beautiful day!

12m RPM hit all the high notes , sunny, rolled up but not too rough. 12-4pm

data on the scene,

couple more weeks and the wetsuit crap will be over!