steve5767 - 12-4-2013 at 06:01 AM
Hi Guy's
I like the idea of big air with boards and static jumping. Is there ANY De-power kite,maximum of about 5 years old as good as the above but not as
expensive,new OR used? Also, one that has very good safety features,[like the above]?
Basically,looking for a kite with very similar flying characteristics and good safety[that's not too outdated]
as the Frenzy....but cheaper!!!??? ...lol.....Possible?
Cheers Guys
elfasa - 12-4-2013 at 06:19 AM
Could have a look at a HQ Montana.... New they're a similar price, but second hand they are normally cheaper.
(Do you board as well at the moment ? What board do you have ?)
Tim
elfasa - 12-4-2013 at 06:21 AM
(Some people say the Montana is actually more lifty than the frenzy.)
lives2fly - 12-4-2013 at 06:47 AM
You could try a Peter Lynn charger? or a Venom if you can find one? Both these kites will generate a decent amount of lift and Arcs are nice and
floaty on the way down 
Or get a 2nd hand LEI if you are confident you are a good enough pilot not to drop it too often. LEI's tend to be better for jumping than most foils
and are often available at good prices on the second hand market.
You could even get a big fixed bridle. a Flexifoil Blade, Ozone Method, PL Twister or an HQ Toxic will get you airborne easily and relatively cheaply.
There are lots of options other than an expensive open cell depower
steve5767 - 12-4-2013 at 09:54 AM
Cheers for the info Guys.
No board yet Tim,but I will pick one up soon, just middle of the road and not too expensive..lol.
I also looked at an 11m HQ Neo today,some nice high jumps on YouTube,the reviews were good aswell.Will get one this Summer for sure but not sure if it
will be my dream Frenzy yet.......fingers crossed.
elfasa - 12-4-2013 at 11:10 AM
No problem.
Yeah, the Neo looks nice too ! I don't know much about it but HQ have really been raising their game in the last few years.
Keep an eye on ebay, lots of people sell kites about this time of year. But you do pay for them coming up to summer !
I've got a board for sale at the mo if you're interested :D Info at:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Flexifoil-Airdeck-G2A-Power-Kite-L...
(The guy who bought it on ebay is a timewaster) You can have the lot for £55, as I wont pay ebay fees. Let me know if you're interested / got any
questions
Sorry for potentially nicking your thread.
Tim
Snake - 12-4-2013 at 04:05 PM
If you want a good jumping kite get an f-arc 1200. It has as much lift and float as a flysurfer speed 3. I can get a good 20+ feet in the air in the
right wind. The float is crazy. I've never been dropped. It pulls like a fixed bridel but has about 50-60% depower. The rideing is good too but you
have to watch it. You keep going faster and faster and faster. I got to about 20 mph with the 1600 in 5 mph winds. The best part, it's only
$235.00!!!! you woul have to pay some shipping but you can't beat the price for a new kite.
http://www.powerkiteforum.com/viewthread.php?tid=25067