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Ashamed to be from Vancouver

Coolbreeze - 15-6-2011 at 09:18 PM

I have lived in this great country since 1977 and consider myself a proud Canadian, However after watching the riots in Vancouver after the game I can honestly say for the first time ever, I am embarrassed and ashamed. Once again the behavior of a few immature a$$ holes will be what the rest of the country if not the world takes away from the game. The repercussions of this will be felt for years to come due to the short sighted immaturity of a few. what makes it worse I'll wager the culprits don't even live in Vancouver and this was more than likely premeditated. I truly believe that the majority of the fans were law abiding.

I don't watch hockey as a rule but felt it was my Canadian duty to watch the run for the cup , and enjoyed it. I do have to say Congratulation Boston, we were out played and in the end, the better team won. We'll be better prepared next time.

Coolbreeze

shaggs2riches - 15-6-2011 at 09:26 PM

I was sayin all day that Vancouver would be chaos one way or another tonight. It's really a shame how crazy a crowd of Drunk fans can get. I must say that was a poor performance after making that far, but you could see it happening earlier in the series. Guess we'll see what happens next season.:yes:

macboy - 15-6-2011 at 10:04 PM

I'm trying to just remember the apres-game cheering "Go Canucks Go" and the stick salute the team gave the fans. Outside the building....well.......:headhsake:

kitedelight - 15-6-2011 at 10:08 PM

Ya, as much as I don't want to say this, good on Boston as they played a tough series, and Thomas was epic.


Ya, don't get it...funny thing is, riots might have happened if they won too. it's happened in Edmonton before where the team wins and there is chaos in the streets. Pretty shameful.

nocando - 15-6-2011 at 10:38 PM

Grant Hockey games will end up like the Rugby League games here in Australia, where authorities make attendance totally alcohol free.

Thats when the Nazis click in checking all and sundry for alcohol.

indigo_wolf - 16-6-2011 at 05:42 AM

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Originally posted by nocando
Thats when the Nazis click in checking all and sundry for alcohol.


Generally speaking, I expect that the "Nazi" behaviour wouldn't be necessary if a small faction of the fan population didn't feel the need to wander around after the event drinking from open containers while being way over the limit due to imbibing during the event.

I don't know how it is in Oz, but at various American events there have been instances of people setting fires, turning over cars, and climbing the girder structure of the stadium and hurling bottles or urinating on the crowds below. A little personal culpability would go a long way to being treated like human beings.


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Originally posted by Coolbreeze
I have lived in this great country since 1977 and consider myself a proud Canadian, However after watching the riots in Vancouver after the game I can honestly say for the first time ever, I am embarrassed and ashamed. Once again the behavior of a few immature a$$ holes will be what the rest of the country if not the world takes away from the game. The repercussions of this will be felt for years to come due to the short sighted immaturity of a few. what makes it worse I'll wager the culprits don't even live in Vancouver and this was more than likely premeditated. I truly believe that the majority of the fans were law abiding.


Sadly, I expected it wasn't premeditated. It just takes very little from a small numbers of miscreants in a mob situation for things to turn ugly. Most of the time the majority of the population is just trying to get away from the mayhem but it makes police navigation impossible and in manys cases its not possible for the police to determine who is causing or will cause trouble and who is just trying to weather the storm until they can leave for some place safer.

I was honestly oblivious of the Vancouver riots until you brought it up and for the most part had no interest in the Stanley Cup one way or another, even though I live a little bit South of Boston.

So here's the final tally:


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Control: Police held crowds back as flames continued to burn and upturned portaloos littered the streets


Thousands of people had gathered to enjoy the game in central Vancouver but things turned nasty in the closing stages


As a car is engulfed in flames after being attacked by rioters, two police in riot gear watch the movement of ice hockey fans as darkness falls


People gathered around two burning police cars and took pictures as the fire took hold of the smashed up vehicles


A fire starts to burn inside a car with smashed windows as Canuck fans try to tip it over


Riot police guard an overturned car in Vancouver to prevent it from being set on fire like so many others


Police pin a man to the ground to arrest him as the rest of the crowd stands back and looks on


Fans dice with death as they leap over one of the fires that was burning in the middle of a street


Many shop windows were smashed in the rioting and looting was reported across the area


Clean up: Police on horses patrol the streets as other officers look on amid the litter strewn streets with fires still burning


As the remains of a burnt out pick up truck continues to burn Vancouverites have vowed to take back their streets and clean the streets

I honestly don't know why I am posting all this or why it bothers me so much, except that if any Boston fans had a part in anyof this, then it mean that we have learned a damned thing.

Snippet describing riots that have broken out after Boston Sports events:

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"Hooligans? What a trite word from the 1930s. Try FELONS. One idiot smashed an office front window and did $50,000 worth of damage. Others were urinating outdoors, overturning mailboxes and trash cans, setting fires, and oh, my personal favorite, attacking RIOT POLICE. Great idea, that.

During the 2004 Red Sox win, the crowd was so unruly that police shot a “non-lethal” pellet into innocent bystander Vanessa Snelgrove, killing her. Remember that tragedy? She was beautiful and had her entire life ahead of her. Dead. Because of a celebration that a TEAM won a GAME.

That same night, Boston sports fans, you overturned cars and set a motorcycle on fire.

In 2004 a New England Patriots fan was struck on celebration night by a fellow Patriot fan that was driving drunk, killing him instantly.

When the Boston Red Sox advanced to the ALCS against the Yankees, students at UMass Amherst lit fires, flipped cars, and attacked university police officers.

Boston sports fans: Thousands die in a war and you do nothing. People are being shot seemingly constantly in and around Boston, there’s gang violence and you do nothing. But a SPORTS TEAM wins a GAME and you see it as LICENSE to go on a rampage in city streets? Why is that? We celebrate First Night and Independence Day and Harborfest and millions pour into the city and everything goes fine. But a stupid GAME is a license to riot?

You violent reveling sports fans are dangerous felons and if the city finally bans such celebrations I am sure you will whine about your right to free speech. Guess what? Freedom of speech and freedom of expression ends when public safety is endangered. We have no “right” to yell “bomb” at the airport and no right to “celebrate” by smashing property and starting fires and attacking police.

Please, Boston sports fans: Grow up. Stop committing acts of violence and destruction over what is ultimately a game.'
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Really, really, sorry for the rant. I guess part of it was that one of the casualties listed above, Vanessa Snelgrove, was a co-worker. I didn't know her well, just enough to say "hi" in passing. She seemed like a sweet young girl that always had a smile for others and it amazes me how quickly and senselessly her life was snuffed out... for attending a sports event. Humans really are un-fricking-believable.

ATB,
Sam

kiteboyza - 16-6-2011 at 06:13 AM

Hey Soutie, I'm sure I saw Ricky torch that first truck...I thought it was only the British soccer hooligans that did stuff like this. I'll make sure to give Vancouver a miss and rather go somewhere safe....lol

bigkahuna - 16-6-2011 at 06:39 AM

The photos and videos remind me of what happened in Egypt not too long ago, except they (the Egyptians) had a real reason for their protests. I'm not picking on Canada either, as you'd see the same thing down in Ft. Lauderdale during Spring Break. Hopefully the police have enough video and photos so they can arrest each and every participant. This kind of stuff is really uncalled for. Reminds me of just how lucky (and spoiled) we N. Americans are. :(

Bladerunner - 16-6-2011 at 06:49 AM

:no:

kiteboyza - 16-6-2011 at 07:29 AM

this guy takes the cake, I guess the police be knocking on his door shortly



zero gee - 16-6-2011 at 07:32 AM

a couple making out on the street during vancouver riot

dawicks - 16-6-2011 at 09:20 AM

Chalk me up as one ashamed to have lived in Vancouver for 10 years.

You should all just move to Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan... no riots lately and lots and lots of wind :yes:

macboy - 16-6-2011 at 11:39 AM

WTF? Facebook bragging and becoming famous on the web for showing your panties in the middle of a riot.

I hope my Anna does me proud like that one day........

:another headshake:

j0fer - 16-6-2011 at 12:56 PM

What's really dumb...I lived in Pittsburgh for about 4 months...which just happened to be when they won the Stanley Cup. Same darn thing with the rioting. And they WON.

tridude - 16-6-2011 at 12:59 PM

awesome country, great city, climate and people..............disregard a few idiots and keep your heads high:thumbup:

bigkahuna - 16-6-2011 at 01:03 PM

Ditto what tridude said. I've been to Vancouver as well as most of the E. provinces. Loved every minute there and the people I met were the best. I'd live there in a heartbeat if it didn't snow 9 months out of the year. ;)

ripsessionkites - 16-6-2011 at 07:05 PM

sad day for vancouver, we are better than this. if you look at the people (canadians) just from this forum you know thats the true Vancouver.

NO, i was NOT downtown (that remark was not funny) ... but at home watching the game. CoolB called me if I was watching (not normally a hockey watching fan). After the game was over, Toolman Tim came over and we just watched the news in disbelief.

now the clean up begins.

Kamikuza - 16-6-2011 at 07:13 PM

I just don't get all that eh ... :crazy:

dirtslide - 16-6-2011 at 10:54 PM

im over on the big island of hawaii and dont want to tell anyone here im from vancouver im so embarassed about what those punks have done to our home .i hope the cops catch them all and make them do slave labour until our next run for the cup.

Bladerunner - 17-6-2011 at 06:41 AM

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Originally posted by kiteboyza
I'll make sure to give Vancouver a miss and rather go somewhere safe....lol


Every cloud has it's silver lining .

That Richard comment and your lol :thumbdown:

You were never invited. :no:

I am very sorry a few folks gave our town a black eye but nobody I know from Van takes pleasure in others pain quite like you can. Glad I am here and you are not.

Leojim - 17-6-2011 at 08:38 AM

I noticed in todays news that many proud Vancouverites (sp) showed up to help in the clean up. Obviously the rioters are not the majority of the population. No doubt many of the rioters were NOT from Vanc or even Canuck fans but there for the party. Unfortunately it got out of hand and the "mob" took over. I expect many were ashamed the next day when they sobered up and saw what they were a part of.

It's not really a black eye on Vanc : can and does happen in many other places. It is a black eye on the human race!

As for the REAL FANS at the game, they appeared to be cordial and it was really nice when they cheered Vanc native and former Vanc Giant, Milan Lucic when he raised the cup.

Oh, and BTW, I'm not a Vanc Canuck fan. I was rooting for Boston. Just telling it how I see it.

revpaul - 17-6-2011 at 03:08 PM

i said same thing as shaggs said "the town is gonna burn win or lose".
i think "sore loser/anger management issues" has very very little to do with the sports riots here.
i'd bet the reason for the riots here is little more than an ongoing and escalating competition (to see who the biggest idiot is). these guys are simply letting loose and having uninhibited "fun" in the flavor of destruction. as they are not wrecking their own stuff the sky is the limit.

RedSky - 17-6-2011 at 08:33 PM

I thought riots after a game is what us Brits did. I remember completely destroying Vancouver in a game called Challenger on the Commodore 64 back in 85, along with Deli and Seattle. Sorry, that has no relevance whatsoever.

I've not seen the riots, not that it interests me. Vancouver is a great place. I'd like to return there someday. :)

Tom