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Help Needed

Looking_Up - 16-2-2011 at 06:32 PM

Help Needed

I need a depowerable foil or two for my inland flying

for 10 to 20 gust to 30

I weigh 280 and am no stranger to power kiting but what i want is out of my price range the kite must handle gust extreamly well but i likum lifty.

I was thinking about used arks but i know nothing about them

I want safety i want to know what is too old safety has come so far in the past few years and i really don't want to sacrifice that

My price range is 300 RTF but i might fudge a little if i find the one

am i crazy or are my demands reasonable:puzzled:

Taper123 - 16-2-2011 at 07:08 PM

board, buggy, or other...?

Looking_Up - 16-2-2011 at 07:12 PM

All of the above

tridude - 16-2-2011 at 07:28 PM

16m VII up for grabs in the sale section............................use your TD bar and lines

krumly - 16-2-2011 at 07:31 PM

Not really a hijack, but I am curious...Tridude, have you flown Arcs witha 2:1 bar? If so, how did it work out? Was bar pressure horrible?

krumly

Looking_Up - 16-2-2011 at 07:33 PM

Tx bar and lines ?

Looking_Up - 17-2-2011 at 11:08 AM

I am an ozone guy but I am worried that a 2005 12m frenzy is two outdated how would it compare to the venom2 16 and what is a td bar

Seanny - 17-2-2011 at 03:26 PM

ARCs have an unbeatable top end! You could find a Venom I or II quite cheaply. I agree with tridude, snag that VII 16m, you'll never regret it! I love my V13. It's very easy to learn. Self-launching is easy, but can be frustrating at times... You'll get the hang of it. :) They don't have a great bottom end, but they do require less wind than an LEI of the same size to get aloft, IMO. The V13 takes about 10 mph for me, and I can hold it down up to 22-24. I weigh 125 lbs... As for a safety system, front line flagging works. The only time I ever need to pull it is when I'm solo landing, though. :thumbup:

Looking_Up - 17-2-2011 at 03:30 PM

Of I can use my lf bar that would be great but I need to know if I will need a bar as well

Seanny - 17-2-2011 at 03:37 PM

That's a question for the ARCheads on here. I'm new to ARCs. The bar I use is compiled from various parts... 36" line leaders (front and rear leaders must be parallel when the bar is completely sheeted in), 60 cm Slingshot Profire bar, Airush trim strap, 15.5" depower line, front line flagging on the handlepass leash. ARCs like bigger bar sizes, methinks. My V13 flies better on a 60 cm than a 55.

krumly - 17-2-2011 at 09:46 PM

I presume Tridude was saying use your Turbo Diesel bar, seeing the pic in your avatar. I was asking if he'd used a 2;1 pulley bar - which the TD's use (though the TD3 can also be set up 1:1). I asked the question, because Arcs, especially the big ones, can really use long bars and long depower throw. The TD 2:1 bar would give you more rear line movement, at the expense of heavier bar pressure, and they probably have enough depower throw. But I haven't tried one yet on an Arc.

krumly

Looking_Up - 17-2-2011 at 10:56 PM

Sorry my avatar is a little misleading that was my first water session using school equipment but I did ride unwind on my first lesson

Looking_Up - 18-2-2011 at 04:42 PM

What about the flysurfer 15.5 for sale by cdakiter its a model 1 with mods

Feyd - 18-2-2011 at 05:07 PM

You're gonna get a much broaqder wind range out of a Venom 2.

16m is the sweet spot IMO. In you're weight range you would be able to muscle that wing in some damn stout winds.

13m V2 with me @ 220lbs is a schload of fun. at 25+. And nothing handles punchy wind better.

Seanny - 18-2-2011 at 05:25 PM

Don't let the size of the kite scare you. :) ARCs are gentle beasts when treated with kindness. :D They're probably the safest kites I've ever flown. Good luck!

zero gee - 18-2-2011 at 05:39 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by krumly
Not really a hijack, but I am curious...Tridude, have you flown Arcs witha 2:1 bar? If so, how did it work out? Was bar pressure horrible?

krumly


I setup a noobs 16m V1 for him. He picked up an older 2:1 Cabrinha bar for it. The bar had long throw but short trimstrap. Not ideal but worked. I was riding it to 25 knots comfortably with that bar (in 1:1 mode).

I tried it in 2:1 first. I lasted about 30 minutes and I was pretty much done for the day, the bar load was extreme! Way more than I ever experienced. I changed it to 1:1 for the next session.

I think if Arc's worked with pulley bars, they probably would come with them or you would see more people using them.

Looking_Up - 18-2-2011 at 06:07 PM

I am not worried about holding it down the havoc is 14 m I fly it gusting to 25
It's more a function of budget I guess ill just have to patiently wait for the bar

Looking_Up - 18-2-2011 at 06:16 PM

It's settled trying to get in touch with feyd for the v2

Wish me luck