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i had an accident yesterday

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NJLandboarder - 18-11-2010 at 08:52 AM

yesterday i had the day off of school and it was very windy so i decided to go to the local fields where i ride and took my ace. the winds were pretty fast and i was getting some small air but then the wind gusted up extremely fast and i flew in the air about 20 feet and dropped like a rock... i am currently on my laptop in my hospital room i have compound fractures in three of my vertebrae and i am not allowed to walk or leave my bed i have to stay flat. i just got fitted for my brace ill have to wear it for 3 monthes im pretty banged up

sorry for the missspellings but i cant type very well

Maven454 - 18-11-2010 at 08:53 AM

That sucks man. Sorry to hear about it. Hope you heal fast and are back to flying soon.

shehatesmyhobbies - 18-11-2010 at 08:58 AM

Sorry to hear about that NJ! Like Jim said, heal quickly! Time for a more reliable kite while in the air!

bigkid - 18-11-2010 at 09:02 AM

OUCH!
Sorry to hear, not good. I can relate. How long before you can get out of bed?
Do as you are told and things will get better. You ready to get rid of the Ace? Or are you unable to think clearly yet?
Heal completely and you'll be back at it in no time.

bobalooie57 - 18-11-2010 at 09:09 AM

Really sorry to hear, being young and stuck in the hosp. sucks! I spent 3 mo. in the hosp. when I was 12(fractured hip, both Tibias broken just above the ankle, run over by a car while sledding, stupid) I feel it even today! Do as best you can to listen to the Dr.s, and get well. Wind here yesterday was 0-gusting to 45+, I didn't go out.(old and cautious)

cheezycheese - 18-11-2010 at 09:33 AM

hey CJ, sorry to hear man... that really sucks!!!

NJLandboarder - 18-11-2010 at 09:36 AM

yeah idk if im going to continue landboarding i think im going to switch to water and decommission my ace

cheezycheese - 18-11-2010 at 09:40 AM

what about your parents...? i'm sure they want you to get rid of it all.... :wow:

Maven454 - 18-11-2010 at 09:42 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by NJLandboarder
yeah idk if im going to continue landboarding i think im going to switch to water and decommission my ace


You could always switch to buggying. It's safe...r, safer. Unless your name is Jeff :lol:

rocfighter - 18-11-2010 at 09:53 AM

CJ I am an old man compaired to you. But 4 tears ago I broke a vertibre and hurneated 2 discs. I had surgury and for the most part I'm back going full blast. I say do just what they tell you no matter how stupid it sounds to your teenage ears (I know it sounded stupid to my 40+ ears) but it is all for your best.
I hope a speedy recovery and at least come see us in the spring even if you arent allowed to hot dog around.
ps. I hope you have cute nurses!!:wee:

bigkid - 18-11-2010 at 10:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Maven454You could always switch to buggying. It's safe...r, safer. Unless your name is Jeff :lol:

I heard that.:o

Todd - 18-11-2010 at 10:29 AM

Wow CJ, hope you feel better. Let us know if you need anything.

chudalicious - 18-11-2010 at 10:32 AM

Yikes! Sorry to hear CJ. Definitely wishing you a speedy recovery - take good care of yourself and all will work out fine.

doneski - 18-11-2010 at 10:37 AM

I'm happy to hear you're going to make a full recovery. My 2 cents:
1) Listen to your doctors and the physical therapists so you heal right.
2) Don't ignore them once you start to feel OK.

labrat - 18-11-2010 at 11:10 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by doneski
I'm happy to hear you're going to make a full recovery. My 2 cents:
1) Listen to your doctors and the physical therapists so you heal right.
2) Don't ignore them once you start to feel OK.


I have to concur with 1 & 2 above. I have now missed three days of work taking care of things at home while trying to keep my wife quiet after a surgery on Tuesday. She is not the type to listen to me or the doctors cause she feels fine. A little more time healing now should give you less aches and pains or worse later.

Please listen and I pray you have a speedy/complete recovery.

I have heard three "Ow!"'s since I started writing this...

indigo_wolf - 18-11-2010 at 11:36 AM

OUCH :sniff:

Heal as fast a your doctors will let you. Really sorry to hear this.

ATB,
Sam

awindofchange - 18-11-2010 at 11:40 AM

Wow, sorry to hear the news CJ. I hope you have a fast recovery and that all goes well for you.

flyjump - 18-11-2010 at 12:23 PM

Dang man! that is scary, I used to own an ace two years ago and they are sometimes unpredictable. take it easy for awhile, i hope you get to watch some good movies the next few months

BeamerBob - 18-11-2010 at 12:35 PM

Sorry to hear about this NJ. I hope you heal fully and fast. Young bodies are better at that.

erratic winds - 18-11-2010 at 01:05 PM

Best of luck healing.

WELDNGOD - 18-11-2010 at 02:02 PM

Oh no CJ,I'm sorry to hear that little dude. Ditto what everyone else said about the docs and therapists. Physical therapy will be painful more than likely,but you gotta man up ,and do it. You are young so I have no doubt you will bounce back. Now you see why the 5m ACE is called "the widowmaker" If you need anything ,let us all know.

Get well dude, and take it easy for a good while.

Your friend in wind Donnie aka WG

P.S. Kelly says"get better baby duck!"

doneski - 18-11-2010 at 02:02 PM

Use the down-time to make a few Nasa Power Wings and handles. I know you were planning to make NPW-5s but you should try a NPW-9b which offers more up wind ability. They're safer than other kites because they can't loft you. You can't jump them but they are still fun. Here's a link to NPW9b plans: http://freedom2000.free.fr/NPW_NPW9B_plans_eng.html#NPW_prog

I'm pretty sure you used one of my NPWs at Wildwood. It was about a 3.5 meter and you were doing fine on it . Start out with a 3.5 and then make one larger like a 4.5.

NJLandboarder - 18-11-2010 at 03:39 PM

yeah thanks everyone im starting to feel better i get my brace tomorrow ill be sure to put kite stickers all over it and my parents are confiscating my ace forever or til i am older. im probly going to switch over to water my parents also agree its somewhat safer

i have had to explain what kiteboarding is to everyone of my doctors only one of them knew what it was

and i think i might make that npw

WELDNGOD - 18-11-2010 at 03:48 PM

what happened in the air CJ? Did you let go? or did it overfly and collapse?

NJLandboarder - 18-11-2010 at 04:09 PM

it overflew and colapsed

WELDNGOD - 18-11-2010 at 04:16 PM

arrgghhh....


edit: CJ , don't give up your groundboardin just yet dude. You don't have to get alot of air to landboard. I love to tear up the beach sandsurfin and just cruisin around. Just use a lower A/R kite around 4m, that would go good w/ your 2m beamer.

flyjump - 18-11-2010 at 04:28 PM

Awesome about the stickers! Do you want a Peter Lynn sticker? If so u2u me and I'll get one out to you. Take it easy, I hate trying to explain to people what kiteboarding is. You'd think they'd at least see it on tv

shehatesmyhobbies - 18-11-2010 at 04:56 PM

CJ u2u me your address and I will send you a couple of stickers as well! Good Idea!

nocando - 18-11-2010 at 04:59 PM

Hey Dude get better soon

rocfighter - 18-11-2010 at 05:48 PM

U2U me as well I'll get you some more Skydogs and an I KITE or two as well.
You'll be stickered up real good!!

Kamikuza - 18-11-2010 at 06:15 PM

Sorry to hear about the prang but good to hear you're on the mend :thumbup:

Jumping with small F.B's :no: how many more threads are we going to have like this? Oh look - I think I pooped a party :o

Txshooter38 - 18-11-2010 at 06:16 PM

In the skydiving world when an accident of this nature occurs there is alot of discussion on how it happened so that others can learn and avoid an accident. I think it is important that you share as much as possible to help the rest of us. (If you are willing) So forgive me but some questions.....

What do you believe is the primary contributing factor to the accident?
Were the winds really unpredictable?
Do you feel a different kite have made a difference?
What was your manner of redirect?
What were the wind speeds?
What kind of surface were you on?
Where you on the board at the time of the accident?


Your opinion is respected and any additional information may prevent someone else from getting hurt. Hope you get better soon!!!

Houston AirHead - 18-11-2010 at 06:23 PM

hearts out to you brother, heal up well. Listen to the Doc.

-Ken

Bladerunner - 18-11-2010 at 06:27 PM

So sorry to hear about your accident.

Is there something about the Blokarts that you don't enjoy? It isn't that adreneline rush of getting air ( and landing ) but I can tell you I would give anything to have a chance to enjoy riding the wind with my Father. Like others suggested a buggy would be a good compromise + still give you the added bonus of sharing wind with the " old man " + your PKF friends . Tridude and a number of others on here totally enjoy the water / buggy combo ?

Listen to these guys about not over doing things.

I can totally see the ace folding up like you describe. Don't beat yourself up too much about this one happening. I think you can blame a lot of it on the gear.
Heal Fast!
:bigok:

shehatesmyhobbies - 18-11-2010 at 06:51 PM

Kami, to CJ's defense, he is only about 100 lbs. he is maybe 5 ft tall. Dude has a lot of heart for this sport at such a young age! Not busting your chops Kami, just giving you a little more info on the kid!

We all know what the Ace can do with no warning, it happened to me once almost identical to his mishap. I am a heck of a lot bigger than he is!

Know you don't mean any harm! :roll:

WELDNGOD - 18-11-2010 at 06:54 PM

yeah, that is alot of sail for the little guy to hold down. We had the pleasure of flying w/ him at Wildwood , the kid has got the stoke for sure.


Hope ya stay in the sport CJ:bigok:

snowspider - 18-11-2010 at 07:01 PM

Holy sh** CJ so sorry to hear about your accident. Eat well and think positive heal your body. You're a smart guy, use the time to study and design safety gear , we are all at risk for serious injury. See you at WBB in the spring you can run with the low and fast guys!

Kamikuza - 18-11-2010 at 07:11 PM

No worries SHMH, I wasn't raggin' on the dude ... just saying that this example reinforces my belief that jumping with F.B. kites on a hard surface is a bad idea :thumbup:

shehatesmyhobbies - 18-11-2010 at 07:15 PM

I hear ya! I learned my lesson!:yes:

WELDNGOD - 18-11-2010 at 07:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kamikuza
my belief that jumping with F.B. kites on a hard surface is a bad idea

I'm w/ ya on that Bro'
I gotta admit I have and do ,jump w/ my fixed bridle kites. However ,I do it up in the dry,soft sand at my local spot. I would never do it on hard terra firma.

NJLandboarder - 18-11-2010 at 07:26 PM

yeah to answer most of you questions i wasnt trying to jump it just picked me up i dont reall know how to jump either i wanted to learn at WWBB but there wasnt enough wind either way if i stick witht he sport or not im probly gonna ask for a pumpie and a new spreader bar for christmas i might get that 06 waroo 12m i also found a naish torch on sale at kiteboarding.com
but idk it all depends on how i feel and my biggest mistake was going out that day because the winds were like a record high for philadelphia there was alot of damage from it on the news aparent the wind reaches 64mph at points that day probly a big mistake and after i had got to the field i scudded across the wet field the ilanded it rested and then got it back up to take back to the car and that when it lifted me

Tibi - 18-11-2010 at 08:58 PM

CJ, get well and try to have a positive attitude. You'll be more cautious in the future. From what you describe... I agree... the mistake was being out there with that lifty kite in those wind conditions. Many of us misjudged the wind speed or the gusty conditions at one time or another... some of us got lucky and ended up with a good scare that kept us safe... others... are sharing their stories... to keep us safe. I know it's not fun to be the example in this kind of situations. Hope everything will go well for you and we'll see you back in the spring.

p.s. What hospital are you at and how long do you expect to be there?

Txshooter38 - 18-11-2010 at 08:59 PM

We appreciate your willingness to share. It sounds like the abnormally high winds are the biggest culprit. I hope you heal quickly....at least you have your age working for you as opposed to against you like most of the rest of us old farts!!!

Keep us posted on your quick recovery!!

NJLandboarder - 18-11-2010 at 09:19 PM

i am currently at childrens hospital of Philadelphia my room is big and i have two nurses during the day one in the afternoon one at night, the food is pretty good and the painkillers come every six hours
i hope to be going home tomorrow afternoon after physical therapy i dont know if ill be back on board by wwbb spring maybe with a npw but i wont be playing lacrosse this spring

i will definitly not give up on the sport and hopefully i can make a fast recovery

thanks to everyone for the stickers for my brace im going to be sure to wear my hq kites atb shirt to school monday

i will keep everyone posted and ill probably be on here alot with all the down time ill have

thanson2001ok - 18-11-2010 at 09:24 PM

Hang tough, big guy. You have a whole community of fans (and fanatics) rooting for you. Hope you will be back soon, even if it is starting small.

Kamikuza - 18-11-2010 at 09:35 PM

Ah, if you get lobbed there's not much you can do ... one reason I like handles is that I just let go :) I basically hold on with my finger tips and at the slightest over-powering, I drop the handles. Don't often have to now, as I've got the feeling for what'll lob me and what won't. Probably :D

After being all downer on jumping with my F.B's, I gotta admit I do it too - you can't help it eh :lol: the landings are enough to put you off it in a hurry though ... especially, when I've already had back surgery to clear a compressed disc off the nerves :o

kteguru - 18-11-2010 at 09:45 PM

Hope you mend quickly CJ. It was great meeting you at Wildwood and like everyone else has mentioned I hope you stick with the sport. I'm not trying to give you a hard time but as Txshooter38 said it can help others. I think it needs to be mentioned that whether your on land or water,,,whether you fly arcs, tubes, open cell,,,,,,, depower or fixed bridle, if you go out in conditions that are far beyond what a particular size kite should be flown in you will always end up in a hospital. A 5m tube in 64mph will do the same thing. It doesn't matter that your over water. I don't even want to think about a 12m tube in 64. Again, I'm not trying to bust your chops but hopefully others can learn from this. That same 5m ace can be plenty fun for light guys like you and me in 14mph. In 64 its a death wish. Just my 2c.

Mend all the broken parts my friend and we'll see you at the next Wildwood:thumbup::thumbup:

macboy - 18-11-2010 at 10:15 PM

And think if all the girls who's attention you're gonna get outta this!

Just pointing out the silver lining :lol:

Heal fast and strong dude. I sometimes dream at night that we'll all have a big ass PKF gathering somewhere and fly together. That means you too!

Jaymz - 18-11-2010 at 10:26 PM

Sorry to hear bout your loft CJ. Keep us posted on your recovery. Hope your ready in time for WWBB '11.
Lucky your still young :yes:

I'm about an hour from you and went to the fields yesterday around 3pm. Was NOT a good day for windsports.
WINDS were SCARY! Would be 5-10mph for a minute or two, then gust to 30-40 for 10-15 seconds. Over and over. Had the 2.6 Viper up for a few minutes and got frustrated going from overpowered to falling out of the sky.
So then I tried the Kitewing with Coyotes and would go 100' and then stand around for minutes waiting for a gust. No fun.
I think the soccer moms were all laughing at the old goon and his crazy flying machines. :smilegrin:

acampbell - 19-11-2010 at 04:57 AM

Heel fast and get well. More stickers here if wanted. I'll start with "KiteFix". U2U with address.

Fair winds and easy rest.

PHREERIDER - 19-11-2010 at 06:32 AM

rest well, then keep moving.

keep up with the weather, find a good local meter station with full data.

Bladerunner - 19-11-2010 at 07:41 AM

Once again you are man enough to be the one to point out you probably shouldn't have taken that kite out in those winds.
I'm happy to hear you won't turn away from the sport. The risks will always be there but patients and logic can reduce them a lot.
:Ange09:

NJLandboarder - 19-11-2010 at 09:12 AM

to answer some of you questions i was on grass/hard dirt in a soccer field
my kite was a 5m ace (bad decision)
and i had a strop on my harness

my doctors keep coming in talking to me about kiteboarding saying to my mom that i should think about quitting the sport and moving to golf

GOLF! i dont want to play golf and besides golf is dangerous too tiger woods almost got killed by his wife with a golf club

and to Macboy: im getting some atentiion from the ladies and my girlfriend thinks im crazy especially cuz i told her im not quitting

and most of all what i learned from this ordeal:

1. pansch ace 5m= not so good idea (and the i told you sos begin)
2. gusty winds plus lifty ace= death wish
3. winds 30mph gusting up to 65= did your brain stop working?
4. life is like flying a kite when the wind dies down dont give up wait a while and itll be back up in no time

shehatesmyhobbies - 19-11-2010 at 09:30 AM

C.J. glad to see you are staying with the sport! Keep up the good spirits. I love the Tiger Woods reference!

You could have been hurt doing anything else whether it be riding a bike, skateboard, even just crossing the street.
In all aspects of life there are risks, might as well be kiting!

BeamerBob - 19-11-2010 at 09:30 AM

yeah, that golf is a real adrenaline rush huh? :rolleyes: I've never seen anyone break kite handles over their knee or throw them as far as they can because they are mad about having a bad kiting day. Heal up and heed the lessons you've learned.

bigkid - 19-11-2010 at 09:36 AM

Glad to hear things are going well, your brain wasn't injured:thumbup:, tough lessons to learn. The good thing is you are young and will heal much quicker than some of us. And you have to listen to mom and dad remind you of this for the rest of your life, so you won't soon forget.
The last words out of my wife's mouth when I go out to buggy now is "Be careful, You better be able to drive home". I was unable to drive for almost 2 months before I snuck out, shouldn't have even done that. Been 5 months since I last slept in my bed for more than a couple of hours at a time, live in the recliner most of the time.
Keep smiling:smilegrin: things will get better soon enough.

BeamerBob - 19-11-2010 at 09:46 AM

I've gotta ask how you can compound fracture vertebrae and not mess up your spinal cord? What did you back land on?

bobalooie57 - 19-11-2010 at 09:47 AM

Ya, Like beamer bob said, I've seen golfers throw their clubs in the pond, once saw a guy ram his putter into a $15,000(?) green, but no matter how many times I crashed, or crashed my kite, I always fold it carefully at the end of the day! When my doc asked what I do for relaxation, golf?(I have great B.P. for a guy my age) I just laughed and said I go fly a kite! :wee:

NJLandboarder - 19-11-2010 at 11:38 AM

yeah i have compression fractures in my L1 T8 and T9 vertebrae i landed on my feet causing my vertebrae to compress and fracture. if it gets any worse i could hurt my spinal cord but now i have my brace it covers my chest stomach and back im gonna put a nice got winds sticker on it (i allready put them on my mom and dads cars)

erratic winds - 19-11-2010 at 11:53 AM

Hey, Golf is a great hobby for when the wind ain't blowing!

Todd - 19-11-2010 at 01:00 PM

Glad you're enjoying the 'Got Wind' stickers CJ; you have a very positive attitude about all of this.


We need your address btw.

DHKITE - 19-11-2010 at 05:21 PM

Heal well.

I can relate ( though not the back ) I've been Schooled by wind lately also.

NJLandboarder - 20-11-2010 at 05:45 PM

thanks everyone

WELDNGOD - 20-11-2010 at 05:51 PM

How ya doin?:)

NJLandboarder - 22-11-2010 at 03:02 PM

im good i went to school today its pretty tough getting around but ill get used to it

ive had to explain the story soo many times and after i explain most people still dont understand it

the brace helps alot it hurts to lift some things im not sure how long it will be before im riding again i hope i try and make an npw

WELDNGOD - 22-11-2010 at 03:40 PM

CJ, take it easy dude. I know how you feel . I also suffered a compression injury to my back. MRI showed herniated discs at T7-T8 OR T8-T9 ,I can't remember now. But it haunts me every now and then. My advice to you is NO JUMPING or anything that will seriously compress your spine ,for a good long while. My injury occured dirtbiking when I was 13 and I got better ,but at 36 YRS OLD it came back.I'm better now, but ya never know. That is why I just freeride and keep the aerial stuff to a minimum(1-2ft at most). But I still find tearin up the beach alot of fun,and I love speed.
Peace out little man! D

shehatesmyhobbies - 22-11-2010 at 05:34 PM

CJ I know you don't really want to hear this, but glad you are back to school. Not bad for a guy who has a pretty bad back injury! You have a lot of courage little man! Like Donnie says, lay back and heal well! Wildwood will be here before you know it! Time to invite some of your friends over and show them some videos of what you do, that may help them to understand. Anytime someone gives me that "what the heck are you talking about" look, I then ask if they have a computer that I can use for a minute!

Continue with Doc's orders, it will help you heal faster! Keep your head up and you will be good! You have some good people from the forum behind you! The beach isn't going anywhere!

Stay cool!

Bladerunner - 22-11-2010 at 06:30 PM

I used to carry a picture in my wallet of a kiteboarder and whipped it out to help answer the question. It may be worth carrying one for a while to help explain?

WELDNGOD - 23-11-2010 at 04:30 PM

I got vids and pics on my celly!

shehatesmyhobbies - 24-11-2010 at 01:33 PM

So CJ, how are you doing, would love an update! Hope you are healing o.k. and hope your spirits are still up!

Happy Thanksgiving as well

erratic winds - 24-11-2010 at 01:37 PM

I got Project Cloud 9 on my ipod so when people ask questions I just show them a movie!

CJ-Positive thoughts for ya healing fast. Best of luck. Scars are just tattoos with better stories attached.

NJLandboarder - 3-12-2010 at 09:18 PM

thanks guys im probably going to have to get some picture to carry or videos also thanks you to everyone who sent me stickers my brace is covered in them =] sorry i haven't been on lately ive had a ton of school work to catch up on

and my status as of now is pretty good i am use to the brace i dont have any pain i will be going to the doctor dec 22 for xrays and checkup they willl tell me how much longer i have to wear it and if i can go back to flying and snowboarding and all the fun things i liked to do

i wanted to say a personal thanks to all the guys at East coast kite Sports you guys are great thanks for the card and stickers

Todd - 3-12-2010 at 09:21 PM

Great to hear from you CJ! :thumbup: Please let us know if you need anything.

WELDNGOD - 3-12-2010 at 09:33 PM

Welcome Back! Lil' Bro':bigok: I was wonderin if the "rents" made you stop kiting and get off the forum or somethin.
Glad you are gettin better, but just because ya feel better does not mean you are "hardened". That will take time and probably PT. But you will be kickin butt and takin names before ya know it!:thumbup:

bigkid - 3-12-2010 at 10:38 PM

At least your up and about. :thumbup:

shehatesmyhobbies - 4-12-2010 at 06:44 AM

Welcome back to the forum C.J.! Missed you on here! Glad you are getting around a little better. Before you know it you will be back on the field! Talk to you soon!

lad - 4-12-2010 at 07:11 AM

Yeah...when I first got into kiting, I told myself "At least I'm saving money compared to taking up Golf!" HA!

What you ARE missing out on, though, is all the intense GOLF FITNESS




and cool GOLF FASHIONS...

NJLandboarder - 4-12-2010 at 11:04 PM

haha soo true lad

i was talking to my mom about getting a kite forchristmas and she flipped and told me no then a couple days later i was talkign with my dad and he said that im gonna stick witht he sport but i need a better kite with a better safety system

im not sure weather i wanna look at an inflatable or just any depower or maybe a kite that doesnt have any lift but alot of speed

my dad says i should sell my ace but i like the memories it carries

Kamikuza - 4-12-2010 at 11:24 PM

The kites WILL lift you and you WILL love it ... get down to a beach with soft sand on a low wind day with a big depower and learn to jump properly ... that way, when it happens on a board you'll relax and LOVE it!



That's how it worked for me ... after dicking around on the beaches, started doing little load'n'pops then took the 16m out on an overpowered day ... my first load'n'pop set me soaring up, up, up - thought I wasn't coming down :lol: but rather than freaking out, I relaxed and worked the bar a little and landed and rode off - much to my surprise. I been hooked every since :D

WELDNGOD - 5-12-2010 at 06:01 AM

CJ, get rid of the "widowmaker", it has a bad reputation for a reason.

Seanny - 5-12-2010 at 09:08 AM

Get a Charger, Synergy, or VII! Safest depowers, EVER! :) Plus much more durable than a tube. If you smack a tube kite and pop the LE, and it's the only one you own, you could be grounded for a while.

Cheers,
Seanny

joeblinky - 5-12-2010 at 09:50 AM

HAHAHA!!! you are wearing atb shirts to school when you get back??? man you sound so awesome!

sorry to hear about you accident. i used to have a 5m pansch ace. that thing was soooo crazy! i have a video up on youtube with mine. that thing yanked me around like a ragdoll. the camera man sucked but the last jump of the day i went up like 20f the kite overflew me so i yanked it to the right and came down at a weird angle. tried to roll but didn't hit at the angle i wanted and twisted my ankle and you can watch my head bounce off the ground.

the camera man sucked, he didn't understand there was a zoom and on my big jump he literally ran track style w the camera on so i had to slow-mo and peice the parts where you could see me together... i was so pissed. lol

here is my video w the widow maker. (don't remember how to put the video in here so here's the link)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rheO4rQ2uw


heal up fast man, will be praying for you!

NJLandboarder - 5-12-2010 at 08:47 PM

yeah im gonna retire it..... maybe ill try it out on light wind days at the beach but i think im gonna go depower im scared to fly anything else right now

and i ve seen that video before!! nice choice of music


also what size depower would i want to start lookign at for my first one with a big wind range and do deopower kites mind lumpy ?

NJLandboarder - 5-12-2010 at 08:51 PM

is that 10m venom fin the for sale too much for me??

joeblinky - 5-12-2010 at 11:01 PM

dude, i live in the middle of north america about as far from ocean as it gets and i pretty much have switched to peter lynn twin skins because they are pretty much the only kites i trust not to fall out of the sky in these gusts.

in my quiver i have a 10m bomba, and 13m venom2 and a 16m scorpion.

i think you should be set with the 10m venom even in higher winds (up to about 30mph).

the twin skins are GREAT gust absorbers. let us know how going back to school goes.

NJLandboarder - 6-12-2010 at 03:46 PM

interesting

Maven454 - 6-12-2010 at 03:53 PM

The arcs are pretty floaty too, so even if they do pick you up, it's a nice soft landing.

NJLandboarder - 6-12-2010 at 03:59 PM

this is very good information i just wanna get out of this brace so i can ride

i really hope i can get my parents to buy me a twin skin for christmas

shehatesmyhobbies - 6-12-2010 at 04:02 PM

That would be a killer christmas present! I think that kite would be a pretty good fit for you. Just get pretty comfortable with it before you start jumping!

NJLandboarder - 6-12-2010 at 04:05 PM

my dad is for it my moms says " you have enough kites allready" but a twinskin is safe also

i need a new spreader bar which is the best for the money?

and hopefully if i get it i can learn at wwbb spring

InvertedForce - 6-12-2010 at 04:14 PM

I'd say if you can find a Venom II 13m, that'd probably serve you and your windspeeds best. The 10m will take quite a bit of wind to get flying and jumping decently (20+) whereas with a 13m you're pretty much lit at 14-20mph.

Hope you start to heal up quick! Maybe I'll see you at the next Wildwood if I'm back on the East Coast at that time of year...

kteguru - 6-12-2010 at 04:35 PM

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but a twinskin is safe also


Nothing is safe outside it's intended wind range. Just a reminder:smilegrin:. Tryin' to keep you in one piece:spin:

NJLandboarder - 6-12-2010 at 04:55 PM

a 13m? isnt that a little big for my first depower?

InvertedForce - 6-12-2010 at 05:08 PM

Not necessarily. My first depower set was a whole quiver -- 10.5m, 13m, 16m -- and I primarily flew the 16m. I think i've flown the 10.5 a handful of times and the 13 quite a bit more, but still my V16 is still my favorite of the bunch. A 13m has quite a bit of power, yes, but it also has lots of float and in the right wind conditions it will perform better and be more forgiving than a smaller, faster kite.

kteguru - 6-12-2010 at 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by NJLandboarder
a 13m? isnt that a little big for my first depower?


Depends on what wind you ride it in. In 14mph you'd probably be fine. As the winds got past the 20's it might be a bit of a handful. Important to remember you have the same problem and Ripsession and myself. We're all lightweight so it doesn't take a lot to move us:smilegrin:.

InvertedForce - 6-12-2010 at 05:13 PM

But the great thing about depower is.... DEPOWER. Knowing how to trim your kite's AoA is where you have the advantage and can fly in a massive wind range! Even for you skinny guys! I'm on the same end of the spectrum as Kevin (Kamikuza), I need a freight train just to get me moving...

NJLandboarder - 6-12-2010 at 05:19 PM

hmm well would a 10m venom be able to get me moving?

Kamikuza - 6-12-2010 at 05:26 PM

It's my opinion that being lighter narrows the critical range of what kite you can use for the conditions.
Doesn't matter what size the kite is, so long as it's suitable for you and the conditions ... I don't think a 10m Venom will give you much of a thrill though ...

InvertedForce - 6-12-2010 at 05:28 PM

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Originally posted by Kamikuza
I don't think a 10m Venom will give you much of a thrill though ...


Agreed. :thumbup:

kteguru - 6-12-2010 at 05:30 PM

I need to have more pancakes and bacon:lol: I think 2 of me = 1 Kami = 2.5 ripsession:lol:

Seriously though, just tryin' to keep the kid safe because I know he'll take it out in conditions where he'll barely be able to hold it down with the bar out and the trim strap all the way in. Like anything else start out on the low end and work your way up.:thumbup::thumbup:
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