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I think we're majorly screwed.

Jolt - 25-9-2009 at 11:26 PM

http://media.abcnews.com/m/screen?id=7800447&pid=79


If this is true, we need to work harder than ever to keep ourselves in the air.

Another theory I've heard is that reforestation is also causing this due to the friction between the trees and the wind, either way were screwed

Krohn1999 - 26-9-2009 at 01:49 AM

Don't worry we will just have to make bigger kites!!

Kamikuza - 26-9-2009 at 01:50 AM

Yes let's be very afraid of this and worry about it everyday so we forget about the government screwing us, the economy etc and lose sight of the really important issues in the world :crazy: more smoke screen b-s to keep the Al Gore empowered and rich ...

alasdair macleod - 26-9-2009 at 04:55 AM

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Originally posted by Jolt
http://media.abcnews.com/m/screen?id=7800447&pid=79


If this is true, we need to work harder than ever to keep ourselves in the air.

Another theory I've heard is that reforestation is also causing this due to the friction between the trees and the wind, either way were screwed

:wee:well you guys my be screwed in the states but we got no problem here with the wind herein scotland! it blowing a blood gale here ! 30mph upwards here!:singing:

Jolt - 26-9-2009 at 06:36 AM

Its slowly going down worldwide.

Kamikuza, in all reality Al Gore doesn't really get taken too seriously around here, he's almost close to Scientology.

Although, I personally believe that everyone should try to go green, for our own personal benefits.

But it reminds me of the UN meeting they had in the UN over the last week, where the representatives came in throughout the world to discuss global warming. but to get there, they used a "Jumbo-chopper-cade" got that bit from John Stewart... one of the funniest men alive :D...:frog:

Houston AirHead - 26-9-2009 at 11:21 AM

not cool man , not cool

william_rx7 - 26-9-2009 at 11:52 AM

"I think we're majorly screwed"

- Uh, no we are not. Think about it...

Jolt - 26-9-2009 at 11:55 AM

Explain your logic...

Kamikuza - 26-9-2009 at 06:20 PM

Well if the world heats up, we should get more thermals :thumbup:

WIllardTheGrey - 26-9-2009 at 07:50 PM

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From the article.

It also makes sense based on how weather and climate work, Takle said. In global warming, the poles warm more and faster than the rest of the globe, and temperature records, especially in the Arctic, show this. That means the temperature difference between the poles and the equator shrinks and with it the difference in air pressure in the two regions. Differences in barometric pressure are a main driver in strong winds. Lower pressure difference means less wind.

Kamikuza - 26-9-2009 at 10:24 PM

No no wait global warming is good cos we'll get better snowkiting
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1085359/Globa...

Hang on - they know there's going to be no wind yet they're spending all our tax dollars on 'renewable' resources like wind farms? That aint right I'm gonna complain, protest and stuff ... just as soon as the scary flu virus thing is sorted out AAAARGH!

I'm just going to sit in the middle, mock both sides then go fly my kite. And if there's no wind, I'll ride my bike :)

nwsurfwakeskate - 27-9-2009 at 03:23 AM

hmm...

good thing were spending billions of dollars building "green" wind energy farms :dunno:

nwsurfwakeskate - 27-9-2009 at 03:25 AM

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Originally posted by Kamikuza
Well if the world heats up, we should get more thermals :thumbup:


thermals operate based off of a temperature difference.

cool ocean vs warm land. warm air rises on land and cool air flows in underneath.

if the cool ocean is all of a sudden the warm ocean then we are kinda f'ed....

Kamikuza - 27-9-2009 at 03:52 AM

But the land will be even warmer and it holds heat longer so ... :lol:
Apparently all this global warming will lead to an ice age in the next few decades - cold land, warm oceans ... off-shore breezes? :dunno: :lol:

furbowski - 27-9-2009 at 03:58 AM

it gets complicated... if the oceans warm up that's a lot more water vapor in the sky, which will cause at the least a couple heavy bands of clouds ringing the poles. And also if the oceans warm up the currents will go out of whack, and they pump heat energy from place to place, the UK for example would be much colder without the currents.

i doubt its going to slow down, more likely the world weather will destabilize, the steady wind patterns will go further amok and new ones will arise, and events like Vancouver's unseasonally heavy winds or HS-P-A-M-L-I-N-K-s recent string of weekly typhoons will be be more and more common. most of any overall slowing effect will just disappear in the all the turbulence.

later on we'll get a new pattern going but it's going to be awhile. climate change started in the mid 1800's, but it's just in the past couple decades that the cumulative effect has begun gathering momentum. best case scenario i reckon peak destabilization in twenty to thirty years and a century or more before world weather patterns settle down.

just my o.o2...

Jolt - 27-9-2009 at 07:40 AM

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Originally posted by Kamikuza
No no wait global warming is good cos we'll get better snowkiting
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1085359/Globa...

Hang on - they know there's going to be no wind yet they're spending all our tax dollars on 'renewable' resources like wind farms? That aint right I'm gonna complain, protest and stuff ... just as soon as the scary flu virus thing is sorted out AAAARGH!

I'm just going to sit in the middle, mock both sides then go fly my kite. And if there's no wind, I'll ride my bike :)


So were screwed either way, at least until we can find the right amount of co2 to pump into the atmosphere?

furbowski - 27-9-2009 at 09:40 AM

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Originally posted by Jolt


So were screwed either way, at least until we can find the right amount of co2 to pump into the atmosphere?


wasn't it pump out? not pump in??? oh dear, I'm confused now...:puzzled:

Maven454 - 27-9-2009 at 10:54 AM

Technically, we could just pump more o3 (ozone) in, co2 would be a removal, yes.

flexiblade - 27-9-2009 at 11:18 AM

Either way winds are starting to finally pick up here in Cali - looks like the delta breeze will be coming in to full effect for those on the coast and in the valley. The delta breeze is a local system caused by a heating of the valley which induces colder wind/air from the coast to travel through the San Francisco bay and up through the delta that feeds the bay - wind likes to travel over water - this will have a great effect for those in the valley that frequent Sherman Island. Surfs up boys, time to strap your gear on.

As far as Global warming and changing weather patterns - in essence the human race has screwed up for the past century and a half after the industrial revolution and paid no heed to the consequences of our greed driven actions - we're trying to deal with it but trying to manage an entire planets economy and policies is and will be a slow methodical mess. Hard to say that I'm doing my part when I have to drive 35 miles to the closest good spot to fly that gets good winds - kiting is green fun but I don't know anyone that drags their buggy to the beach or to a field by hand. Posting this very response is adding to my and your carbon footprint (that is if your reading this). How do we change this all? Great question for another forum - unless someone has a quick simple solution that you can sell to someone else for a profit.

Jolt - 27-9-2009 at 07:39 PM

1. Stop using fossil fuels... I know easier said than done in the US, freaking tabbaco and oil companies run the country.

2. use your buggy to get to the beaches instead :D

Kamikuza - 27-9-2009 at 07:50 PM

Actually, according to some studies I've seen, you'd be better off keeping the car and turning off all the AC in your buildings and homes ;)

kitejumper - 27-9-2009 at 07:55 PM

the weather experts around cleveland area dont believe that global warming exists to the degree that the government wants us to believe, and i'm right with them.........and the forecast for toledo on monday is winds 25 to 35 with gusts over 40, and tuesday 20 to 30--so i dont care if the winds are dying--they are certainly alive around here.....and now i am done discussing this ridiculous topic--im going kite flying, and i suggest you all do the same--NUFF SAID

furbowski - 28-9-2009 at 01:58 AM

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Originally posted by kitejumper
--im going kite flying, and i suggest you all do the same--NUFF SAID


yep i reckon i can agree with that bit, if nothing else..

:thumbup:

Jolt - 28-9-2009 at 08:06 AM

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Originally posted by kitejumper
the weather experts around cleveland area dont believe that global warming exists to the degree that the government wants us to believe, and i'm right with them.........and the forecast for toledo on monday is winds 25 to 35 with gusts over 40, and tuesday 20 to 30--so i dont care if the winds are dying--they are certainly alive around here.....and now i am done discussing this ridiculous topic--im going kite flying, and i suggest you all do the same--NUFF SAID


I'm just sharing what i heard, this like "global warming" is gonna take years to actually occur.

Drewculous - 28-9-2009 at 11:22 AM

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Originally posted by nwsurfwakeskate
hmm...

good thing were spending billions of dollars building "green" wind energy farms :dunno:


AHAHAHA!
Someone called into our local newspaper a few years back complaining about these "new fangled wind farms"

They didnt understand why we needed wind farms in Nebraska, it was windy enough already... :lol:

I cut it out and framed it, it was pure genious, LMAO!!!

Jolt - 28-9-2009 at 08:34 PM

Lol, wow the ignorance of some people...

kitejumper - 29-9-2009 at 04:51 PM

hey jolt what does your mood mean? it says meh

Jolt - 29-9-2009 at 08:32 PM

Meh.. its just an expression, it pretty much is like saying whatever or, being indifferent about anything.

Sad thing is i just picked it up from a couple of friends of mine.

It also goes along with the :/... i tend to refer to that as the indifferent emoticon.

Maven454 - 30-9-2009 at 03:10 AM

I'm always amazed when I run into people who don't know what meh means. It must primarily be a mid-west thing. I grew up in Ohio and we used it all the time.

Jolt - 30-9-2009 at 09:39 AM

I picked it up from a guy i used to talk to back in Seattle.

I think its mostly a geek thing.

http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/hoodies/8cc3/ :D...

Maven454 - 30-9-2009 at 09:41 AM

Maybe that's it.