Power Kite Forum

Looking for small Skytiger hi aspect

crewl1 - 9-20-2009 at 10:59 PM

If anyone has a Hi-10 or Hi-15 Skytiger from a few years back and would like to sell it please contact me with info.
Thanks
Larry Navarro
lnavarro1@yahoo.com

B-Roc - 9-21-2009 at 09:19 AM

here are some new ones still for sale http://www.cobrakite.com/skytiger.html

crewl1 - 9-21-2009 at 09:34 AM

Thanks for the link.

Looks like most show as sold out and the smaller hi-aspects are not on the page.

Will give them a call.

In the meantime still looking for these if anyone has one to sell.

Thanks!
Larry lnavarro1@yahoo.com

dylanj423 - 9-21-2009 at 11:09 AM

just curious... why do you want one?

ripsessionkites - 9-21-2009 at 01:29 PM

if you want bigger at anytime ... i know someone with a HI-100 modified "rear flaps removed"

crewl1 - 9-21-2009 at 03:20 PM

Why?

I only buggy at dry lakes, usually El Mirage and sometimes Ivanpah. My experience is that the wind is never light when it is steady.
If it is light it is usually sucker wind and the bigger kites get pulled out for a bit but they go back in the bag once the steady wind develops in the afternoon.
I end up flying my little homemade 1m and 1.5m most of the time I'm at the lakes.
(I'm not a racer and prefer to just cruise around with a kite that will let me relax.)
My homemades are basically scaled up zip-zaps, which is a high aspect rectangle shape.
They are getting pretty worn now and I've tried other small kites to replace them (firebee, profoil, buster, etc) but just don't like the way ellipticals fly as compared to the rectangles.
I love my bigger Hi Skytigers when I do get to fly them but they are too much for the normal wind conditions at Elmers for my taste.
So I'm looking for the baby ones.

crewl1 - 9-21-2009 at 03:26 PM

Hi 100? No I am too chicken for that.

I have other Skytigers, two Hi40's and Hi22's for the wife and I.

Those are plenty big for our needs.

FloRider - 9-21-2009 at 05:10 PM

Whats the deal with the sizes being published in sq. feet? Makes my brain hurt trying to figure out the equivilent sizes. Silly Rebels.

ripsessionkites - 9-21-2009 at 06:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by live2hover
Whats the deal with the sizes being published in sq. feet? Makes my brain hurt trying to figure out the equivilent sizes. Silly Rebels.


for us Canadians. LOL. j/k. old school i guess.

Skytigers are still cool kites. One of the only kites that can still stand on wintip completely still.

HI series was great too, miss the Icarex material on today's kites, extra light but bad on rips. But you could ride all day in the RAIN.

@crewl1 ... when i find the designers email address ill forward it to you, he's here in Canada and maybe you can work something out.

check this out too: http://www.catchthewind.com/kites/skytigers.html

crewl1 - 9-21-2009 at 08:01 PM

Thanks Ricardo, much appreciated!

revpaul - 9-22-2009 at 09:11 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by crewl1
Why?

I only buggy at dry lakes, usually El Mirage and sometimes Ivanpah. My experience is that the wind is never light when it is steady.
If it is light it is usually sucker wind and the bigger kites get pulled out for a bit but they go back in the bag once the steady wind develops in the afternoon.
I end up flying my little homemade 1m and 1.5m most of the time I'm at the lakes.
(I'm not a racer and prefer to just cruise around with a kite that will let me relax.)
My homemades are basically scaled up zip-zaps, which is a high aspect rectangle shape.
They are getting pretty worn now and I've tried other small kites to replace them (firebee, profoil, buster, etc) but just don't like the way ellipticals fly as compared to the rectangles.
I love my bigger Hi Skytigers when I do get to fly them but they are too much for the normal wind conditions at Elmers for my taste.
So I'm looking for the baby ones.

i think he meant why are you looking for "old school" kites.
sentimental reasons?
i'm guessing somewhat newer (not the latest) kites are better suited/handling, easier to find and roughly same prices.

crewl1 - 9-22-2009 at 01:14 PM

I'm not against new kites but the ones I tried just weren't to my liking.
If someone can recommend a few small models that they like
I would try them.
Perhaps at the next get together I will have too borrow a few.
Usually though everyone else is flying stuff that seems overpowered
so that's why I haven't.

revpaul - 9-22-2009 at 02:19 PM

i'm not a racer either. just like to cruise too.
there are a few high quality makers (PKD, Ozone, Flexifoil) whom make the small stuff.
Ozone-Imp Quattros, Flexifoil-Sting, and PKD Buster (I, II, III). I have a .7m Buster that is not available in BII and BIII.
Paul

crewl1 - 9-22-2009 at 04:29 PM

Thanks Paul I will look into those.

I have tried a smaller Buster before and found that it flew similar to other small ellipticals I've tried:

It was twitchy and needed a lot of attention to keep it tracking straight and also seemed to need to be swooped to develop power.

It is possible that this one was not set up properly - how does it work for you?

geokite - 9-23-2009 at 09:37 AM

Problem with the newer kites is they are more efficient for the sail area. Not what desert kiters want, usually. The least pulling kite is often enough for the dry lake beds. Older kites are less efficient, so the smaller sizes are really small.

awindofchange - 9-23-2009 at 12:42 PM

I may know where some Sky Tigers are at. I will check this weekend with the owners to see if they are willing to part with them and how much. Not sure about the Hi 10, but they do have some Hi 15's and Hi 20's as well as other sizes.

revpaul - 9-23-2009 at 02:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by crewl1
Thanks Paul I will look into those.

I have tried a smaller Buster before and found that it flew similar to other small ellipticals I've tried:

It was twitchy and needed a lot of attention to keep it tracking straight and also seemed to need to be swooped to develop power.

It is possible that this one was not set up properly - how does it work for you?

pretty much the same but Busters have an adjustable "Angle of Attack" (AoA), even the tiny 0.7m size.
i haven't fiddled at all with AoA on my two little Busters.
if i understand correctly; when one adjusts for higher AoA (more pull) this will slow (somewhat) kite and keep kite from flying out of window so quickly.
I'm sure my two little Busters (or any equal size kite) would still be pretty darn quick even with high AoA setting.
Paul
Paul

crewl1 - 9-23-2009 at 10:02 PM

Thanks Kent let me know or have them send an email.

Paul thanks for confirming, I expect the AoA might help but at this point I'm not really keen to buy one and mess with it.

Geokite is awesome with those big arches and the hardware, breaking the sound barrier and all but it's not for me.
He's seen me with my old homemade beaters out there, probably wondering when I'm gonna get real kites:smilegrin:

I'm like the Grumpy Old Man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1_NhnXMCKw

lnavarro1@yahoo.com