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Crossing Antarctica With Kite Buggies

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pongnut - 25-5-2012 at 06:13 AM

Sorry Luth, wrong forum. You probably meant to post on the 'other' PKF (Power Kitchen Forum)... :tumble:

Skoden - 25-5-2012 at 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mougl

This should be posted on Simian4455's thread

bigkid - 25-5-2012 at 08:09 AM

should span the website contact page....did I say that out loud? ops.

*edit* I would never do that.

kitekid21 - 7-6-2012 at 05:13 AM

SPAM!

acampbell - 7-6-2012 at 05:18 AM

reported

mougl - 7-6-2012 at 06:08 AM

Do you have the iPad depower 19m?

mougl - 7-6-2012 at 06:08 AM

Mostly Harmless - 7-6-2012 at 06:49 AM

Seriously, does anyone fall for this? I am guess yes since I see these all over other forums.

bibitedog - 7-6-2012 at 10:26 AM

I don't like the bridle on the 4s, and the 3 is not fast enough for me.

John Holgate - 7-6-2012 at 02:57 PM

That's a pretty poor way to start

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to develop long-term relationships with our customers.

by spamming us on a completely un related forum. Perhaps we should come over to your forum and spam you with

Great deals on all bulk completely organic cat food as supplied as surplus from the film District 9.

Seanny - 7-6-2012 at 09:44 PM

HEY. District 9 was a great movie. :D

bigkid - 7-6-2012 at 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by John Holgate
That's a pretty poor way to start

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to develop long-term relationships with our customers.

I unleash all my life frustrations on spamming back these people like this. got a couple drafts for just this type of thing. get on there site and spam away, at the end I always thank them for telling me where they are, makes spamming them much easier. :smilegrin:

Kamikuza - 7-6-2012 at 11:57 PM

BWA-hahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahaha ah ha ha ha!

Magician - 8-6-2012 at 01:35 AM

I might use it to carry a bowling ball, but not a baby.
Crazy spammers.

Kamikuza - 8-6-2012 at 02:35 AM

Oddly enough, the title of this thread makes more sense than the opening post! :o

WELDNGOD - 8-6-2012 at 03:06 AM

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WELDNGOD - 8-6-2012 at 03:07 AM

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WELDNGOD - 8-6-2012 at 03:08 AM

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shaggs2riches - 9-6-2012 at 10:16 AM

Reported

stetson05 - 9-6-2012 at 10:20 AM

Spam :mad:

reported
Unless it is kite related, go away!

erratic winds - 20-6-2012 at 02:50 PM

My fingers do just fine, if you need a 16 minute youtube video to explain your product, your product might be too complicated.

acampbell - 20-6-2012 at 04:26 PM

reported as spam

Bladerunner - 20-6-2012 at 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by acampbell
reported as spam

WHY SPAM ?

This is kite related stuff ? :puzzled:

Might be able to use this stuff on my Navi' bar at some point ?

macboy - 20-6-2012 at 04:36 PM

I'd be happy to demo one and give a full review - one of the reasons I opt for my bridled foils in the winter is because I hated walking back & forth & back & forth through the snow walking out my lines before connecting to my Arcs. It looks like your lines in the demo were all pretty much laid out - I'd like to see it run through a lineset fresh off a bar unwrap without the gadget. Looks like a bit time consuming compared to a quick wrap (and yes you can argue it's less time overall compared to untangling). Leaving lines connected to an Arc while you wrap up is not terribly practical - esp with the bigger Arcs. Also wonder if you could bring the lines together out the rear rather than having to lay a 2" band of lines down on the bar ends.

Looks good otherwise - nice to see innovation!

macboy - 20-6-2012 at 04:39 PM

I'll add my vote to the "not spam" category BUT this is directly commercial in nature...the absence of which on PowerKiteForum I quite like. Angus respects that policy, you should too Rogue. But thanks for sharing.

macboy - 20-6-2012 at 04:54 PM

Okay Angus, I'm putting it all together.....all these posts are commercial. Reported. Please don't come in here all sales-pitchy. That's not what PKF is about.

erratic winds - 20-6-2012 at 05:00 PM

Since my post disappeared, I'll repeat myself.

What does this do that my fingers don't? The world will beat a path to your door if you build a better mousetrap, but some problems don't need additional technology to sort out.

macboy - 20-6-2012 at 05:01 PM

Didn't disappear - this is commercial spam. Posted twice.

erratic winds - 20-6-2012 at 05:03 PM

Wait, I CAN USE GRIPTAPE ON THINGS I GRIP?

Hold on I gotta call my mom and tell her about it.

Reported as commercial spam.

If you'd like to be a normal user who happens to run a store, that's possible. But if you are only here to sell, we don't want ya here.

erratic winds - 20-6-2012 at 05:06 PM

thx for the heads-up macboy.

John Holgate - 20-6-2012 at 05:42 PM

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Not everyone likes to do things efficiently but, we do appreciate your opinion.

Surely you are not suggesting that if we don't buy you're gadget, we're not efficient in our line handling ?? That's bordering on insulting, dude.

PHREERIDER - 20-6-2012 at 05:45 PM

greetings, gottcha some fancy gadgets .

where u kite?

syuzhak - 20-6-2012 at 06:25 PM

Now this guy is an inventor! He should patent those real quick...

PHREERIDER - 20-6-2012 at 07:48 PM

annes beach , islamorado? MKS?

typically i leave all my stuff hooked up. so lines won't tangle. pump, let it out, GO !

ever seen the turBo launcher ?

Houston AirHead - 20-6-2012 at 08:27 PM

ok... my first reaction was man i could really use this on my old LF bar... How is this spam again?.... lol :eekdrull:

although i tried this once with some tennis racket tape from academy , it only lasted about 3 sessions before it fell off

bigkid - 20-6-2012 at 08:57 PM

I must be late to the party, what did I miss?

OK now it showed up:puzzled:

OK after 10 minutes got to the point, Hmmmmmmmmmmm.....I must be an odd ball, why take off your lines? :puzzled: Seems like a lot of work.... and they said my QR is to much hassle.

bigkid - 20-6-2012 at 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RogueKiteboarding
Patent-Pending

Thanks :yes:

Good luck with that, after you spend a small fortune on the patent search see what the lawyers say about your idea. When you find out let us know. :smilegrin:

arkay - 20-6-2012 at 09:50 PM

Being a product designer I'm always open to giving feedback

You could certainly make a 30 second video should you want to; it's a pretty simple product. I've seen designs like this before so I'm not sure what's new here, maybe the way your rings or that they fold in? Though for the product you have i like the fact that there's a water proof (presumably) pouch and a strap to keep things neat when on the bar.

I typically have a lot of sand on my lines so I would fear that the winding and unwinding process would be like sand paper on the lines. I also typically take my lines off. I've found that so long as the line ends are kept in order, it doesn't matter how the lines are wound. If the organized ends are easy to hook w/o tangles then once there is line pressure everything takes care of itself. A chip clip or barrette functionally works great for this, albeit not pretty.

Good luck!

indigo_wolf - 20-6-2012 at 11:42 PM

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Originally posted by arkay
I've found that so long as the line ends are kept in order, it doesn't matter how the lines are wound. If the organized ends are easy to hook w/o tangles then once there is line pressure everything takes care of itself. A chip clip or barrette functionally works great for this, albeit not pretty.

There's always "pretty" in a manly

man way....the Molle-Lok

Sorry...couldn't resist.

ATB,
Sam

Feyd - 21-6-2012 at 06:31 AM

I dunno, if you can't manage to keep your lines from getting dicked up I can only wonder what else kite related you may be falling short on. :no:

My worst line nightmare took me 2 hrs in 10f with winds blowing 20-30mph+. That was when I first started. Now, the same mess of lines wouldn't take me more that 10-15 minutes.

If you have to detangle everytime you set up, you're packing things wrong.

IMO.

dman - 21-6-2012 at 09:37 AM

It's not like he is on here pitching watches, shoes or designer hand bags. I am glad to know there is a product like this.

crazymanme2 - 21-6-2012 at 09:46 AM

Bought some of that gel tape at a bike shop.Seems to be holding up well for me on my custom handles.
Not plugging him just letting others know where the gel tape is available at.

bobalooie57 - 21-6-2012 at 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dman
It's not like he is on here pitching watches, shoes or designer hand bags. I am glad to know there is a product like this.

If you get a chance, though, buy up one of those "Coach" handbags at a cheap price, then when the S.O. notices the new kite, well look what I got for you! :singing:

B-Roc - 21-6-2012 at 10:26 AM

I don't think its spam. Seems like a cool product if you ever need to fix torn material on your bar.

One suggestion I might add is to scotch tape the bar at the endpoint underneath the wrapping so if glue spills it spills on to scotch tape. Once all the wrapping glue firms up, you could probably easily pull the scotch tape out from under it knowing your bar has not been glued to the wrapping.

ikemiester - 21-6-2012 at 11:02 AM

Getting you lines tangled is part of learning it makes us learn the hard way that if we pack up right, we should be able to unpack and go with one safety check through the lines.

snowspider - 21-6-2012 at 12:05 PM

I think RS-P-A-M-L-I-N-K-s posts will fly if you change your style of presentation , look up FlexBoards posts. They are more of a "here's what we are doing guys ,and some of the issues involved, what do you think". I like to see new stuff if only for the mental exersize it provides , I don't want to hear a manufacture gush about his products... thats for us users to do.

bigkid - 21-6-2012 at 12:23 PM

I agree with Angus, if he wants to share an idea fine. If not than remove the part of the videos where he tells you all the items are at his website blah blah blah.
Good idea but poor judgment on selling his products.

I WOULD CALL IT SPAM.

geokite - 21-6-2012 at 12:36 PM

There were pictures of this homemade line organizer on kiteforum a couple of years back. Been using it since; wonderful, never have to walk my lines out. Shown it to countless other kitesurfers, still haven't seen anyone else use something like this. Dunno, guess people like to walk their lines.

IMG_4330.JPG - 135kB

geokite - 21-6-2012 at 12:36 PM

And on the bar.

EDIT: Just vinyl tubing zip tied onto a long piece of vinyl tubing, with a piece of bungee. I always have my right bottom line snap into the colored side. Attach lines before taking lines off the organizer, attach organizer to lines before taking off lines.

IMG_4333.JPG - 181kB

geokite - 21-6-2012 at 12:51 PM

That kiteforum thread started at http://www.kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2316213 but the pics of the 2009 version are dead.

For another line organizer see http://kitelauncher.com/ , but I don't see any advantage of the one from the op or kitelauncher.

geokite - 21-6-2012 at 01:46 PM

I wonder what aspect of it is patentable. Homemade line organizers and some commercial ones have been out for years.

geokite - 21-6-2012 at 01:57 PM

Isn't there leverage on your hand(s) to keep the center line hole perpendicular to the depower line? This would be no matter where your hands are on the bar; you would have to constantly impart a twisting motion on the bar to keep the friction on the depower line at a minimum. Depends of course on the bar pressure your kite exerts.

I think a small strap handle, right in the center, would alleviate the problem of grabbing the center of the bar. And make it easier to grab the bar when it is far away from you.

Any other ideas to shoot down?

zero gee - 21-6-2012 at 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RogueKiteboarding
For quick launching and absolutely hassle free line management. This patent-pending line manager/winder will have you out in the water faster than ever possible. Ideal for small launch sites and/or crowded beaches.

Completely eliminates all the hassles of having to walk and untangle kite lines before connecting to kite. Nothing will beat simply connecting your lines and handing it over to your buddy for a quick launch, all while simply walking out into the water as you unwind your bar resulting in perfect lines that are ready to go every time. No tangles, twists or spinning of the bar required!

Are you affiliated with these guys and their Line Crawler? http://www.kitelobster.com/shop/page/3?shop_param=
Seems that you expanded on this idea.

erratic winds - 21-6-2012 at 03:25 PM

Ok I much prefer the design of the line crawler, much simpler.

Will stick to using fingers for now, though.

B-Roc - 21-6-2012 at 04:32 PM

I'm not sure I see the value in any of the models in this thread. If you leave your lines attached, it doesn't matter how you figure 8 them around your bar as long as you are somewhat attentive the lines won't wrap in and out of each other and come off the bar no problem when letting out to launch.

If on the other hand you have a wicked rats nest, I can't see how any of the tools in this thread help as generally you have to detach all the lines and start pulling them through each other.

Maybe this is just a surfing thing?

Bladerunner - 21-6-2012 at 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by B-Roc

Maybe this is just a surfing thing?

Yes, it is rare for folks to keep there lines on inflatables.

I have to move my bars from arc to arc so often have to walk mine. Like others have mentioned I am not inefficient at it because I pack up right. I have a feeling I could walk mine out faster than all the finicking I saw setting this rig up ?

Kamikuza - 21-6-2012 at 06:35 PM

Left rear pigtail larS-P-A-M-L-I-N-K-s head on left center line, repeat with the RHS. Walk out your lines with the centers between your legs ... what tangles?

That thing looks like a noob-snare.

Although I have the original line-crawler ... and it comes in handy for untangling messes when other people drop their kites and swim in through a big ol' ball o' twine.

geokite - 21-6-2012 at 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by B-Roc
I'm not sure I see the value in any of the models in this thread. If you leave your lines attached, it doesn't matter how you figure 8 them around your bar as long as you are somewhat attentive the lines won't wrap in and out of each other and come off the bar no problem when letting out to launch.

If on the other hand you have a wicked rats nest, I can't see how any of the tools in this thread help as generally you have to detach all the lines and start pulling them through each other.

Maybe this is just a surfing thing?

Yes, a kite surfing thing. I rinse my bar off every time, and having the kite attached when doing that isn't as easy.

Feyd - 22-6-2012 at 06:33 PM

I love seeing crossover stuff from the bike world.

Feyd - 22-6-2012 at 06:34 PM

Heheheh "Noob Snare"

acampbell - 23-6-2012 at 05:49 AM

Sorry, was not trying to be too harsh. It is a legitimate topic insomuch as it is germain to kiting, but it is not even thinly veiled as a response to an existing thread topic "...hey have you heard about this product....".

PKF rules....
2.1. This forum is NOT a commercial market place. Do not use this forum to advertise commercial businesses or services, link to commercial web sites, or list promotions or products for sale by dealer or manufacturer. Store owners may post private party sales in the For Sale category - items must be listed with prices. Additionally, we ask that discussions are conducted on the forum (in thread or U2U) and that the author adds "SOLD" to the end of the thread title once the sale is complete.

...so it's been reported and is still here, so I guess it is OK. I'd rather see the rules a little loose rather than so tight that discussion is so limited. Carry on....

Scudley - 23-6-2012 at 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by acampbell
Sorry, was not trying to be too harsh. It is a legitimate topic insomuch as it is germain to kiting, but it is not even thinly veiled as a response to an existing thread topic "...hey have you heard about this product....".

PKF rules....
2.1. This forum is NOT a commercial market place. Do not use this forum to advertise commercial businesses or services, link to commercial web sites,

Angus, you seem to be in violation of this rule, as do I, look at your signature or is coastal wind sports a charitable organization. Quite frankly the rule is a bit of a joke when a wholesaler has been adverting his demos as "used personal gear" here for years.

S

acampbell - 23-6-2012 at 05:26 PM

oh eff off. Sheesh

acampbell - 23-6-2012 at 06:14 PM

Sorry for the sidebar quibble; ignore it. We have some (very few) trolls.
Normally here, commercial posts come about from the question from a 3rd party like "Hey does anybody know how to improve the grip on a bar...?" then you have a chance to jump in.
Normally, commercial posts that come jumping in with both feet first without context are viewed as circumspect here on PKF. I am not a moderator and have not even stayed at a Holiday Inn Express lately so will lay back. Just my experience with over 5 years here.

Best of luck. I'll take another look at your product. Fair winds

macboy - 23-6-2012 at 08:57 PM

Yeah, there are some bad ones. Hope you stay and play a while. I was down in the Keys a year ago and had a great time at Anne's. It'd be nice to hear stories / sessions from down there. Nice warm, flat water. Heaven......

ragden - 26-6-2012 at 05:24 AM

Reported for spam.

awindofchange - 26-6-2012 at 10:47 AM

Spammer - reported

WELDNGOD - 26-6-2012 at 02:59 PM

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WELDNGOD - 26-6-2012 at 03:01 PM

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WELDNGOD - 26-6-2012 at 03:02 PM

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Houston AirHead - 26-6-2012 at 05:10 PM

dont get it why do people choose a power kite forum to troll

csa_deadon - 19-7-2012 at 02:08 AM

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csa_deadon - 19-7-2012 at 02:09 AM

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markite - 26-7-2012 at 06:24 AM

sounds like a chaffing problem to me - I think it would be wise to chose the hardly creamy dress

Scudley - 26-7-2012 at 06:49 AM

Wedding dress material has way too high a porosity and is way to heavy. Makes #@%$#!ty kites.
S

spam

Scudley - 26-7-2012 at 08:43 AM

PPO

reported

soliver - 26-7-2012 at 08:53 AM

reported, for every forum.

rocfighter - 26-7-2012 at 09:04 AM

WOW did we get invaded HUH? Scudley thanks for reporting it.

Vince H. - 26-7-2012 at 09:46 AM

Sure hope none of my credit card numbers are in his offerings.

Isn't there an agency that this should be reported too?

mougl - 26-7-2012 at 10:16 AM

I uh.....I don't uh....I uh....what?

Snake - 26-7-2012 at 10:55 AM

Spam.
Has been reported.

pbc - 26-7-2012 at 05:12 PM

I once made someone a kite out of her bridesmaid dress. The kite flew well. I think she got to have more fun with it as a kite than a dress.

Philip

g-force junkie - 13-8-2012 at 07:45 PM

Hey you stupid turd you won't sell your crap here, goodbye

WELDNGOD - 13-8-2012 at 07:49 PM

spam reported

WELDNGOD - 13-8-2012 at 07:51 PM

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WELDNGOD - 13-8-2012 at 07:52 PM

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WELDNGOD - 13-8-2012 at 07:54 PM

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csa_deadon - 17-8-2012 at 05:34 AM

Our favorite lunchmeat has been reported!

indigo_wolf - 21-8-2012 at 01:31 AM

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indigo_wolf - 21-8-2012 at 01:32 AM

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erratic winds - 21-8-2012 at 04:39 AM

Best title EVER on a spam post.

indigo_wolf - 21-8-2012 at 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by erratic winds
Best title EVER on a spam post.

Best title ever still makes for a bad thread when it is spam and doesn't even include fun photos. :sniff:

Should have gone like this:

The knowledge You will need About Tiny Puppy Garments

ATB,
Sam

abkayak - 21-8-2012 at 09:39 AM

OMG........this is so cute. i'm gonna stop kiting and design animal costumes. this might yet be a worthy thread

RedSky - 21-8-2012 at 03:03 PM

Makes as much sense as the 3 word story. hehe
Sorry to bump this

carltb - 22-8-2012 at 01:40 AM

the dog carrying the present is brilliant!!

silvereaglekiter - 22-8-2012 at 06:07 AM

Are you serving Spamat that party

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